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:: You say that, but the starters all have National Dex numbers (494, etc.).  Where does ''that'' information come from?  I know it's an educated guess, but at the moment it's still just a guess.  The same goes for the types - do we know they're all pure types? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 13:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: You say that, but the starters all have National Dex numbers (494, etc.).  Where does ''that'' information come from?  I know it's an educated guess, but at the moment it's still just a guess.  The same goes for the types - do we know they're all pure types? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 13:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::We know at least one of their types. So we put that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::We know at least one of their types. So we put that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Should we at least list their secondary types as {{type2|???}} to indicate that we only know their primary types? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 07:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Should we at least list their secondary types as {{type|???}} to indicate that we only know their primary types? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 07:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


== Name romanization ==
== Name romanization ==
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Here's the sprite I uploaded onto Bulbagarden Archives from CoroCoro: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Here's the sprite I uploaded onto Bulbagarden Archives from CoroCoro: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


[[File:SpriteTstuaaja.png|thumb|right]]


== This needs to be moved. ==
== This needs to be moved. ==
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== Anime ==
== Anime ==


[[File:Tsutarja-anime.png|thumb|left|250px|Tsutarja in the anime]]
Does this deserve to be added to the anime section of the page? I think it would definetly be an improvement from having nothing. Maybe also adding that Shooti owns one that battles Ash's Pikachu in the first episode. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Does this deserve to be added to the anime section of the page? I think it would definetly be an improvement from having nothing. Maybe also adding that Shooti owns one that battles Ash's Pikachu in the first episode. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have to add a picture that looks exactly like the one I use on my profile? (cept png) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 13:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have to add a picture that looks exactly like the one I use on my profile? (cept png) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 13:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
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:If by this you mean that part about it being revealed through silhouette, all information like that tends to go in that spot, its consistent with other articles. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 22:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
:If by this you mean that part about it being revealed through silhouette, all information like that tends to go in that spot, its consistent with other articles. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 22:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
== Large sprites ==
Snivy, Tepig, and Oshawott have special large sprites at the beginning of the game, used only when selecting the new starter Pokémon. This is a feature unprecedented in previous games (which all used the battle sprites in selection). I think these large sprites have encyclopaedic value here, and I'd be glad to rip and upload them, but where to, if others are in agreement?<br>
Note: Let me emphasize that this question applies to all three starters and that I am posting here strictly because Snivy comes before the other two in National Pokédex order.<br>
Alternatively, here's a minor suggestion of my own. Could one possibly say in the trivia pages of each of these three Pokémon that they are the only starter Pokémon to have special large sprites for their selection at the beginning of the game, and provide the images next to the sections for illustration? --Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 10:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
== Base Exp. ==
It's changed in Black 2 and White 2, along with Tepig's and Oshawott's. Could somebody with hacking abilities find out what it's changed to? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
== Conniving ==
Could Snivy also involve conniving? I know saying conniving usually involves this sentence "That snide, conniving little -----!" so snide and conniving do seem to be two sides of the same coin.
I know the snide part of Snivy is a obvious one, so don't let the spelling of conniving cloud judgement in its legitimacy of possibly being involved in snivy's name. I know people tend to see words that don't start with the same letter and immediately condemn them without further thought or reasoning. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
:It's only got two letters / one syllable in common, and I think just plain ''ivy'' is a more reasonable hypothesis than ''conniving + ivy''. That's not to say it's impossible, but I'd definitely err on the side of not including it on the page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
== Gen VI egg moves ==
So, for anyone who wants to test what Snivy can or can't learn by breeding in gen VI, I figured we can use a section here.  Not sure if there's any other way to check, since 3DS games can't really be hacked yet, so some information's better than no information, right?  For anyone else interested in testing, please add any move you test to the appropriate list (and sign it).  Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Moves that cannot be learned by breeding:
* [[Aqua Tail]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Disable]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Fury Swipes]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Zen Headbutt]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
Moves that can be learned by breeding:
:Listing every move it doesn't learn through breeding is going to make the list gargantuan, and for very little reason. If Snivy had the possibility of learning an egg move in the previous generation but didn't, it's very unlikely that it was changed. What would be more useful is to test new moves that the potential fathers have been given access to in Gen VI as well as check if its egg moves from Gen V are still passable. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 20:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
== Sprite issue ==
Umm... On the pages for the pokémon after and before this, the sprite is of Bulbasaur, it's the same for Tepig and Oshawott, they each have their Gen I counterpart. Can this be fixed?
Note: by sprite I mean the little one up the top on the article of the pokemon before or after it. Thanks 19:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC) {{unsigned|Eeveelutionlover}}
== Name origin ==
This may be a controversial one but hear me out. Is Snivy really meant to be a snide or sly Pokémon? Aside from its up-turned nose and sleepy eyes, and the fact that fans used to refer to it as Smugleaf before we knew its English name, I don't think it's really intended to be a cunning or snarky Pokémon. Its Pokédex entry in Pokémon Black describes it as "calm" and the anime entry describes it as "cool, calm, and collected". It feels like the fandom has decided its a smug Pokémon, but I doubt this was an intended part of its naming, design, or personality. I'd also like to point out none of the other language versions reference anything about it having a snide personality, and I can't think of any other evidence to support the idea that it has such a personality. So.. I suggest that the second sentence of the name origin section not be included, as I don't see those words as a likely origin for its English name. The name is clearly just a combination of snake and ivy. I don't think it goes deeper than that. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="orangered">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="darkviolet">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 00:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
:Honestly, looking back at this, I could see them including references to "snide" or "sly" due to its lines "royal" connections, as members of royalty are often assumed to be pompous and contemptuous. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 17:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)