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:: Well Wikipedia says, completely: Altaria (チルタリス Chirutarisu?, Tyltalis in original Japanese language versions). Which means that Tyltalis isn't its name any more. Also, the Japanese characters on the Bulbapedia page ends in ス, which, if you also look at Zangoose's name, is the sound "su", and not "is/lis" - which is what it should be if Altaria's Japanese name was Tyltalis. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 12:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | :: Well Wikipedia says, completely: Altaria (チルタリス Chirutarisu?, Tyltalis in original Japanese language versions). Which means that Tyltalis isn't its name any more. Also, the Japanese characters on the Bulbapedia page ends in ス, which, if you also look at Zangoose's name, is the sound "su", and not "is/lis" - which is what it should be if Altaria's Japanese name was Tyltalis. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 12:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::First of all, both ''Chirutarisu'' and ''Tyltalis'' are correct. Chirutarisu is based on the Hepburn romanization system, while Tyltalis is the trademarked romanization. The one that Bulbapedia uses is the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Romanization|trademarked name]]. Second, Wikipedia is not an official source. Besides, there was no indication in that text that the name has been changed. Wikipedia only listed both the literal transliteration and trademarked name. --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 13:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | :::First of all, both ''Chirutarisu'' and ''Tyltalis'' are correct. Chirutarisu is based on the Hepburn romanization system, while Tyltalis is the trademarked romanization. The one that Bulbapedia uses is the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Romanization|trademarked name]]. Second, Wikipedia is not an official source. Besides, there was no indication in that text that the name has been changed. Wikipedia only listed both the literal transliteration and trademarked name. --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 13:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::Adding to that, Wikipedia isn't claiming Tyltalis is its old name (I swear to you on that); you're misinterpreting what "original" means. You're assuming it means "prior", but it meant to be "base", as in the "version of origin" compared to every language it was translated into after the Japanese version was produced. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 13:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm not doubting that it isn't called Tyltalis, anymore, but the Japanese Characters do not say Tyltalis, even though it is the correct translation - wouldn't it be prudent to give the literal translation of the Japanese Name, since literal translations are given for most other things, like moves. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 12:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::It already is given, in a tooltip. Mouse over the Japanese kana. This is the standardized form on all Pokemon articles for giving the literal {{tt|transliterations|Note: not translations, as you said; they're two very different things}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:55, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Mega Biology == | |||
I like writing biology entries and one of my favorite Pokemon just got a new design. Will edit this if any new features come to light. | |||
"Mega Altaria has more extensive cloud-like plumage, with a large, fluffy mass extending from its back. Its cottony wings are more distinct than in its base form, and its blue belly is now exposed. Additional fluff surrounds its neck like a collar, and its head is adorned with a hat-like crest. A single, small feather curls out from its forehead, though its facial features are unchanged. Its tail feathers have grown into a long, wavy streamer, with three longer central plumes." [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 11:20, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== First Pokemon to completely change its first evo typing? == | |||
Swablu is Normal/Flying, Altaria Dragon/Flying and its Mega is Dragon/Fairy, so Mega Altaria doesn't have either typing of its first form, perhaps worthy of mention.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:41, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:You could say the same of each Eeveelution. They all discard Normal-type for another type. Also, it seems bit stretched, as Altaria itself changes only secondary type.[[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 13:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Azurill also used to do this, although it doesn't anymore now that it is part Fairy-type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't think Eevolutions are a good example, since they are intended to have different typing because of unstable DNA and what not. Azurill is a valid example, but it is no longer true as of Gen VI. | |||
:::Even then, in terms of '''dual-type''' Pokemon no such change has occurred before, to my knowledge anyway. Mega Altaria is the first dual-type Pokemon not to share at least a single typing with its first form.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm not sure if Mega Evolution can be considered as Pokemon's stage, rather as other form... [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 15:16, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::In-universe rationale like "unstable DNA" doesn't matter. As for being the first dual-type, IMO that sort of qualification is of dubious notability. And the fact that it's a temporary thing during Mega Evolution also sours me on the overall point. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:19, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::I'm of the opinion that the more qualifiers you need to add to trivia, the less notable it probably is. Especially when that qualification ends up otherwise getting rid of Pokemon that would make that trivia untrue. It shouldn't be added imo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 17:35, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Mega Altaria == | |||
Can someone who has access to editing this page put in the Trivia section that Mega Altaria is the only Dragon-type Pokémon that is immune to Dragon-type attacks? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:The page is only protected to the autoconfirmed level. You should be able to edit the page. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 17:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Ok. Thanks. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 19:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Ring Target == | |||
Since the Altarianite can't be removed from its correct holder, Altaria, itself, It can't eventually hold a ring target. Is it impossible that it can hold one or is it possible? --[[User:HoennLove200|HoennLove200]] ([[User talk:HoennLove200|talk]]) 16:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:You can remove Mega Stones the same way you can remove anything else. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 16:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::@Pikachu Bros., HoennLove200 is referring to in battle. Since it is a Mega, it cannot hold a Ring Target. The only possibility that the immunity can be exposed is if a Ditto has Transformed to Mega Altaria or has the Ability Imposter and has the Ring Target as a held item. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 19:02, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Possible Namesake for both Tyltalis and Altaria == | |||
It is possible that Altaria in both Japanese and English is named after a stars in the same constellation, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_Draconis Epsilon Draconis] was "Tyl" (Which is already noted in the wiki) and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Draconis Delta Draconis] was "Altais" according to Wikipedia (Which is something that I didn't find in the Wiki even though it COULD be true) | |||
There is also a good reason for this: to further connect the pokemon with the Dragon type. (Is this way good Landfish7?) {{unsigned|Blaxe}} | |||
:This seems very plausible, so I went ahead and added it. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 03:49, 21 June 2022 (UTC) | |||