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* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 1|Archive 1]]: June 2008-November 2009
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* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 2|Archive 2]]: November 2009-February 2010
* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 3|Archive 3]]: February 2010-September 2010
* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 4|Archive 4]]: September 2010-February 2011
* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 5|Archive 5]]: February 2011-July 2012
* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 6|Archive 6]]: September 2012-November 2012


== Pokemon Adventures volume 43 ==
== Pokemon Adventures volume 43 ==
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::So yeah if you're good with this I'll go ahead and add it to the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Manga|manga manual of style]] since as far as i'm concerned that's where all the manga rules should go. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 22:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
::So yeah if you're good with this I'll go ahead and add it to the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Manga|manga manual of style]] since as far as i'm concerned that's where all the manga rules should go. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 22:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
:::I have this term I call determining by action which means that a move was added on here without any confirmation (term applies with both manga and anime). [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
:::I have this term I call determining by action which means that a move was added on here without any confirmation (term applies with both manga and anime). [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
::::Ahem. Another suggestion I've been thinking of for a while. {{u|Arceus101|This guy}} has been annoying me for a few things. When volume 44 of Pokemon Adventures came out, he added the titles to the page without reading it. This can't be good. Info should only be added by someone if they actually saw the info themselves, right? While I don't think that the source he got them from isn't trustworthy (far from it), I don't like people touching things they haven't read. Maybe get a pic of the book's title as proof if you don't have it. The thing that really annoys me is that two of the titles he added were wrong (because they came from the titles Coronis made up), and he didn't even bother correcting this when he reverted my revert. So, I was suggesting "If you haven't read something, don't add info to it." Of course, if it's something minor, like English names or chapter titles, they can be added if the info is from a very trustworthy source, like Coronis or Dogasu. This is sort of similar to my "if you can't understand, don't touch it" suggestion from before. The reason I ask this is because of the Black and White releases and how complicated it's gonna be to move these chapters. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::So, something like "do not add information unless you have confirmed it yourself from a primary source (a copy of the manga) or a trustworthy secondary source (such as Amazon for ISBN information, Dogasu for chapter/round names), etc? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:56, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


== GDZ articles ==
== GDZ articles ==
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:That I think is following the original epicode linking style of {{bp|Project Anime}}. Personally, I prefer chapters/rounds to be linked by title, ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]'' for example. So yeah, while it's not urgent to go through every volume's page and change it, it would conform to the overall style of other manga articles, so it would be okay to change. And don't worry about asking me all the manga questions - I am the Project Leader after all ^^' [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:That I think is following the original epicode linking style of {{bp|Project Anime}}. Personally, I prefer chapters/rounds to be linked by title, ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]'' for example. So yeah, while it's not urgent to go through every volume's page and change it, it would conform to the overall style of other manga articles, so it would be okay to change. And don't worry about asking me all the manga questions - I am the Project Leader after all ^^' [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::I mean something like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gastly_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#In_the_Pok.C3.A9mon_Adventures_manga this] where instead of showing the specific chapter something happens in, it just shows the volume number.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 03:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::I mean something like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gastly_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#In_the_Pok.C3.A9mon_Adventures_manga this] where instead of showing the specific chapter something happens in, it just shows the volume number.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 03:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:::So it's linking to the ''volume'' instead of the round? That is so ridiculous haha. Relink them immediately if you know the round number. @_@ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


== Kazuki vs. Pearl ==
== Kazuki vs. Pearl ==
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:So, it's like "Hi, my name is Kazuki, but everybody calls me Pearl and I'm called Pearl 99% of the time in the manga"? If that's the case, like Isamu Akai and Kai Midorikawa, the page should be moved. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:So, it's like "Hi, my name is Kazuki, but everybody calls me Pearl and I'm called Pearl 99% of the time in the manga"? If that's the case, like Isamu Akai and Kai Midorikawa, the page should be moved. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::Okay. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::Okay. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
== User Profile ==
Hi there. I've edited a couple of pages, but it still says I do not have permission on my user page/profile to edit it. Is there anything else I need to do? Thank you. --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 12:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
:Hi HJ13, before you can create a user page, you must become {{bp|autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed}}. Becoming autoconfirmed is an automatic process by our wiki software: as mentioned at the top of my page, you must make a certain number of edits as well as having been a member of the wiki for a certain amount of time. As you continue to contribute to the wiki, you will find your account will become autoconfirmed. Thanks for your contributions so far! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:27, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::Hello again. It still won't let me. How many edits do I need to make? Thank you for your understanding. :) --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 18:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Sorry to bother you again. Could you answer please? Thank you. :) --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 21:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
::::Hi HJ13, the exact number of edits required is a secret so I can't tell you, sorry. If you are looking for pages that need help, check out {{cat|Stubs}}, {{cat|Articles needing improvement}} and {{cat|Articles needing more information}}. Hope that helps. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:51, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::It is fine. Also, thank you. I'm able to edit my user page. Thank you for your help. :) --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 20:00, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::Glad to hear everything worked out in the end. Thanks for your contributions. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
== Akari ==
Where did you get {{HIBAPC|Akari}}'s actual gender from? I changed his gender from male to unknown because he was referred to as both a male and female in the actual manga, and I found it to be debatable. That also explains why the male pronouns were changed to it. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 04:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
:Apart from the fact that it was decided forever ago to only refer to Akari with male pronouns, I think Wikipedia explains it best:
:''The precise definition for transgender remains in flux, but includes:''
:: ''"Of, relating to, or designating a person whose identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender roles, but combines or moves between these."''
:: ''"People who were assigned a sex, usually at birth and based on their genitals, but who feel that this is a false or incomplete description of themselves."''
::''"Non-identification with, or non-presentation as, the sex (and assumed gender) one was assigned at birth."''
:In the How I Became a Pokémon Card manga, Akari was born female but self-identifies as male. He was presenting as male exclusively at school to all his friends until middle school when he was forced to wear a uniform with a skirt. Therefore, Akari is female-to-male transgender. Since he identifies as male in the manga, the article reflects that by using male pronouns. Also, "it" pronouns are offensive to the transgender community. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::I see now that Akari is male. When something like that was made to be confusing, problems occur, kind of similar to who is the protagonist or antagonist of a story when both sides act the opposite of who they are. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:22, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
== Innaproppriate content ==
Hey, I'm gay and all, but do things about gay rights and fanfiction sex stories really belong on a website where children are the mojority of the people who acess it?
JolteonGuardian 03:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
:"Fanfiction sex stories"? I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Can you provide examples of this content that you're objecting to? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:45, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Im sorry somehow I got you confused with kenji girl! JolteonGuardian 03:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
== So, now that this is out... ==
What are we going to do about [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_Adventures_EN_volume_43_Viz.png this?] Volume 15 was really easy because Viz only removed one chapter and put into volume 14. Here? It's half the volume. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
:Hmm so we don't know what rounds yet, huh? I'd leave it on the {{PAV|43}} article for now unless we learn any different. My guess is that they might add a few rounds from {{PAV|44}} otherwise it's just a duplicate of {{Vol|Pokémon Black and White|1}} with a new cover and probably that extra artwork like that page with N at the end of the volume and that panel they changed with Cheren and Bel, etc, but then it gets the rounds all mixed up cause then the second book is like what, half of 44 and half of 45? unless they just do the first four rounds -again- with that extra artwork and the extras from the back. maybe. agggh how could this get any more complicated than it already was!! *punches a wall*
:Worst case scenario, we do something like [[Pokémon Black and White volume 1 (France)]], but I'd like to avoid that if we can. Sadly we'll probably have to wait for the volume's release so we can compare it to volume 43 and the mini volumes. unless you have a better idea :/ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
== PBK character names ==
In the Pocket Monsters Platinum: Aim to Be Battle King!! manga (very long name), I only found [[Yū Shirogane|Yū]] and {{OBP|Shin|PBK}} as known characters. There are several other characters who end up being the ones that I can't tell their names. Do you know the names of those characters (if you have the manga)? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have that manga at this time, sorry :( [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 15:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
== I'd like to just bring something to your attention for a moment ==
Okay, so there has been a {{u|From Beyond the Stars|new user}} going through the list of all redirects and "fixing" every single one alphabetically. The fix hasn't actually been looking at why the redirect may be used instead of the actual page name, and instead just replacing every single redirect simply because it is being used. I've already been hit with this situation because I have a few card pages beginning with punctuation marks, but this user has just made it to the pages beginning with A, which for your purposes are [[ABW01]], [[ABW02]], and so on. (You can see their contributions [[Special:Contributions/From_Beyond_the_Stars|here]].) I was just concerned about all of the ABW epicode changes to PS, because I honestly thought that if you wanted it done, it would have been done in February when the pages started getting moved. It also just seemed inappropriate to me for pages on [[Pokémon Black and White volume 2|the English]] releases of the manga using the Japanese epicode in favor over the English epicodes. (And especially awkward, as now [[Pokémon Black and White volume 4|this page]] says "Rounds included [[PS471]] - [[ABW13]]", which makes absolutely zero sense.) If you would prefer all the links everywhere to be the Japanese PS links, then ignore my message here. I just wanted to bring this to your attention because it does seem like an issue to me. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 13:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Nate, thanks for your message. The ABWXX epicode was only intended for use on a temporary basis, as the rounds had not yet been published in volume format in Japan yet we wanted to create articles for them. Due to the complexity of Adventures's current release in Japan, we didn't know how many rounds the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}} would be since it was stopped in magazines and that story was finished only in volume format. So we couldn't start {{chap|Black & White}} articles at PSXXX since we didn't know what number HGSS would stop at until the volumes came out. As the volumes are released, my goal is to transition all the ABWXX epicodes to PSXXX epicodes once we can confirm their sequence in Japan. I don't want to move the rest yet as we don't yet know if they will be compiled in a different sequence in the Japanese volumes (remember, Adventures is serialised in two or three different magazines, so it's confusing as all hell) so while pages like {{Vol|Pokémon Black and White|4}} look a little odd now it will eventually straighten itself out. So for articles like {{Vol|Pokémon Black and White|1}} and the respective rounds, which have all been moved, I'd like them linked to the Japanese round number but they'll still be listed on the volume page in the order they appeared as "Adventure 1" "Adventure 2" etc. Like how [[Electric Tale of Pikachu issue 2]] is really [[ET03]], it's still shown like that as it was the way it was released. Or like [[The Best of Pokémon Adventures: Red]] or [[Mysterious Mew]] and the like. Anyway, thanks for your concern, I'll keep an eye out for this and try to make it as least confusing as possible ^^' [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 20:43, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
==Pokémon Adventures Vol. 15==
I had an earlier idea that right next to that information I added about the cover art being different in the VIZ release that the picture of Pryce from the original back cover should be added just to show people what the original design of the back cover from Volume 15 looked like. Do you think this should be added? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 03:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
:Hmm considering the differences between the two covers, normally back cover artwork isn't needed, but that would be cool to aid understanding of the trivia. You can go ahead and add it :) sorry for my slow reply!! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 16:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
::I forgot which version of Pryce artwork it is the one with or without the mask. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 03:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Just confirmed from one of the sites I go to that the original design has both the Mask of Ice and Swinub in it. If you can upload the picture I was thinking of placing it inside a template and name that template spoiler warning given the nature to avoid spoiling Pryce's secret. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 12:34, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
::::Oh ya true since in the picture he's holding the mask and everything so ...spoilers! hrrrrm maybe we if we still want to include it, we should put it under one of those show/hide dealies with a spolier tag. either way :V damn spoilers haha, imagine if you randomly picked up that book and read the back cover before buying it? brutal :V even i read a killer spoiler on here by mistake for a different character since i was editing the section directly beneath it :( [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::That should work. Since I am not a picture uploader (nor have I been on any wiki I've worked with) I will need your help with that picture. If it were under normal circumstances than I would have been able to do it by myself. My idea for the picture caption is "Original back cover design". -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 15:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
==Help!!==
I need to upload the pictures on bulbapedia,can you help me find a way to upload pictures? {{unsigned|Fuwanati}}
:Hi Fuwanati, all images used in Bulbapedia and Bulbanews are uploaded to [[:a:Main Page|Bulbagarden Archives]]. Hope that helps :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 16:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
== *Ahem* ==
So, what are we going to do about [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_the_Comic_cover.png this?] We can't assume it'll be put in volumes because [[PS268|there was a chapter that almost didn't make it]]. Since it's apparently a flashback to Red's training on Mt. Silver, it can take place anywhere. We can always move it to PSWhatever if it does get put into the volumes, but what kind of Epicode should I use? PSs? (You know, like [[PMRSs1|this]]). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 00:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah I would create it at {{red link|PSs1}} for now. I definitely don't think it should be at PSXXX unless it gets released as part of a volume, in which case we can move it then. The "side story" epicode works well as any future rounds like this can fall under the same epicode, like [[SS01]] and on for the anime. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
::And made. But since I don't know the names of those comedians Dia and Pearl like, I had to use their Chuang Yi names. If you could, [[PSs2|can you add their names in the trivia section]]? Thanks. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 13:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
== Character articles ==
If a character who appeared in every chapter of a long running manga, for example {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}, should the important stuff only get listed in their articles as content? I think Pokémon Pocket Monsters is the only long running manga to feature a character or two in every chapter. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 05:39, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:I am currently rewriting PM manga's Red's article off the site and doing it without the, in (chapter names). Kind of like the way the {{adv|Red|other guy}}'s article is written. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
::Sounds like a good plan. With a major character in a big manga like Pokémon Pocket Monsters, only really need to list major acheivements or character developments as there is already lots to say. The "other" Red is a good example, as Adventures is of comparable length. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:42, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
:::I didn't want the article to be super humungous which was why I was asking. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:48, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
== Name changes ==
I'm thinking of adding the two Unown Diamond and Pearl befriended with in Adventures to their pages. But there is a problem and so the question I need someone to answer to is this: What is the site's policy when a name changes in the middle of translation? The two Unown were named '''Mr. Relaxed''' (D) and '''Mr. Hasty''' (P) in the second VIZ volume but in the newest volume they're called '''Flaky''' and '''Grumpy''', respectively. Both should be mentioned but which names are the main ones? [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 11:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
:Generally when an official name is changed, the policy leans toward the most recent appearance: see [[Bell Tower]], {{ga|Ethan}} and [[Vincent]], for example. Considering they are minor characters, it could be confusing, but go with Flaky/Grumpy for now I suppose. (Be sure to mention the Relaxed/Hasty names in the description though) I haven't got the new volume yet ;__; if they make any future appearance or mention, we'll go with that for the sake of consistency, but for now we'll go with the most recent. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks! [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 05:06, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
:::But what do we do with [[PS355|this page's]] "major events" section? There are five names in total used in the English translations for these two Pokémon and using the new names could cause confusion among VIZ readers reading the article (although, so does the initial name change in the volumes)... [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 11:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Forget that, it just hit me... Sorry for leaving a message without thinking first. Y<Y' [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 11:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
== Volume 18 cover ==
There's a larger image of Volume 18 on this link: https://catalog.simonandschuster.com/TitleDetails/TitleDetails.aspx?cid=8643&isbn=9781421535524&FilterByName=Ages&FilterBy=13&FilterVal=8+-+12&ob=0&pn=1&ed=&showcart=N&camefrom=&find=&a=. I can't edit the picture file you created for some reason so can you replace the current picture with this one? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 00:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:nvm I fixed it [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 01:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::Hey since you're an admin as well as the head of Project Walkthroughs, are you able to make it so that the Volume 18 page has the cover that I put up a while ago instead of the book form? I replaced the book form image on Bulbapedia Archives with the cover image, but it's still not appearing on the Volume 18 page. Is this just something that we have to wait out? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 20:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:::It's a server-related thing, most of the Archives is on different servers so sometimes it can take a couple hours to sync up. If the problem persists, you can purge your temporary internet files, sometimes that helps, or do a "soft" edit (edit and save page without doing anything). Hope it works out, thanks for the file upload~ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:09, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
== Manga Pokemon debuts ==
Just making sure, but when a Pokemon should be listed under debuts when the Pokemon physically appears in a chapter, even if it isn't owned by a character or it's not the main focus of a chapter (for example, Gold runs through a forest, and there are a bunch of Pokemon shown that haven't been shown in chapters before).  Just wondering because I wanted to fix up debuts on manga pages, but I wanted to make sure I had it right. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 04:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Funktastic, you got it, as long as the Pokémon physically appeared it can count in debuts :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:09, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
::Ok!  And just something else I noticed.  On some pages Debuts has its own heading, while in other pages it's a subheading of Major Events.  Which one is correct? --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 00:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Hello again, "Debuts" should be a separate heading, with "Pokémon debuts" a subheading of that. "Major events" is mostly for story advancements and the like. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Hey Zesty, just double checking what you meant here, did you mean that Debuts should start as a level two heading, and then Pokémon Debuts as a level three heading, as seen in [[PS004]] or Debut as level 3 and Pokémon Debut as a level 4 as seen in [[BW001]]. I only ask since the example as seen in the episodes seem to be the standard and I'd hate for someones work to be all for naught. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 04:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::For manga pages I do prefer it as a level two then Pokémon debuts as a level three. Therefore [[PS004]] would be correct. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
== New ==
Hello,
I am new to Bulbapedia (well, I've been using Bulbapedia for years, but I'm new to editing and the like), so sorry if this is the wrong place.
I saw that you made a discussion page for me, so thanks! But I would like to get a user page. Now, I read in the FAQ that I need to edit the mainspace enough to get a user page, but do you know around how much I need to edit it? Also, it says you can get banned from editing your user page if you edit it too much, but does it count if you make an edit, and then you just make a little edit to fix a spelling mistake or rephrase a sentence? And finally, I know this seems like a dumb question, but do you know how to make tildes on a British English keyboard? I tried looking it up in the past but with no luck. I'll just use copy and paste for now.
Thanks,
[[User:Amitai|Amitai]] ([[User talk:Amitai|talk]]) 17:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:Dear Amitai, to create your userpage you must first become autoconfirmed. Becoming autoconfirmed is an automatic process by Bulbapedia's software based on a minimum number of edits to the mainspace (any page that doesn't begin in <code>User:</code>, <code>User talk:</code>, <code>Talk:</code> and other such prefixes) as well as a minimum tenure (length of time since you created your account). The specific requirements are a secret I cannot share with anyone, sorry. If you are looking for pages that need help, check out the {{bp|Editor's Hub}} as well as {{cat|Stubs}}, {{cat|Articles needing improvement}} and {{cat|Articles needing more information}}. There's lots of stuff to do here so I'm sure you'll find something! As for userspace limits, as you may have seen in the {{bp|Userspace policy}}, the limit to the number of user page edits you make per day is somewhat proportionate to the number of mainspace edits per day (check that link for more details). As a general idea, though, it's wise to preview your edits before saving to try and catch any mistakes beforehand, as multiple edits to any page causes extra stresses to our servers. You can do this by the "show preview" button right next to "Save page" or doing Alt+Shift+P on a Windows computer. Finally, unfortunately I don't know how to do tildes on a UK keyboard, as I live in Canada and I think ours are the same as in the US. :( what I recommend rather than copying and paste is you may notice above the editing window (where you add text in a page) there is a button "http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png", clicking this will automatically add four tildes to the page. Hope this helps! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
==Delete==
OK, I know that you are not supposed to notify an admin if there are pages to be deleted. However, there are a lot of {{cat|pages to be deleted}}, and some of them have been there for a while. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 01:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks, I'll get on em. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
== Ryūko ==
I will need some assistance with [[User:Pattyman/Ryūko|this]], if you have the chance. By the way, when you upload the image of the character, I won't care if ū or uu is used in the file name. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 17:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:Sure, I will get around to it in the next few days. I understand special characters in file names cause problems on the archives so I will probably stick with "Ryuuko.png" and so on. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
::Ok. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:47, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
== Thanks ==
Hey,
Thanks for the tips! I'll keep these things in mind the next time I edit the mainspace.
I am hoping I will be able to write more about glitches when I get a Pokemon Yellow cartridge (it's easier to use than an emulator, in my opinion).
Cheers,
[[User:Amitai|Amitai]] ([[User talk:Amitai|talk]]) 19:48, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
== New manga chapters ==
Do you think you could start hiding the <nowiki>(Japanese: ''' ''' '' '')</nowiki> in the opening line of any new manga chapters you create without the names? It would really help when getting the titles on the page. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 04:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
:Makes sense. Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep that in mind for the future. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:17, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
==ANN Article==
Here is a small article from Anime News Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-06-22/pokemon/black-and-white-manga-ends-but-more-is-coming) which confirms the Black and White Chapter of Pokémon Adventures is ending in Japan soon along with some other useful information regarding of when they'll preview the following chapter for the Pokémon Adventures series that will succeed Black and White. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:Excuse me, Zesty, but I need to clarify something. It isn't ending, it ended, and we've known it was going to end since last month. And they aren't previewing the following chapter, they're previewing the last chapter that just came out. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
== Volume 44 ==
Since, unlike {{u|Arceus101|some people}}, you actually have the volume, would you mind adding the missing titles and subtitles for Pokemon Adventures volume 44 plus some chapter covers? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:39, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Ataro, I can confirm the titles no prob. The subtitles will be hard for me to add on my own since I don't know much Japanese (and they're in kanji. there is hiragana above the kanji which i can take a stab at but i am a n00b haha and we should probably have the kanji anyway, since that's how it was done for volume 43) ~alternatively~ i can scan the subtitles if we have someone else who can translate them better. I can do chapter cover scans, but what would you like compared to what we have from the magazine version? you've probably seen the volume title pages, it's just this silhouette of Zekrom and Reshiram and it's like "THE TENTH CHAPTER" and looks the same on every round. u_u i usually prefer the title pages (like in [[ET01]] and like every other manga page I ever did) but that's boooring if we use these ones haha. so would you like the VIZ magazine version scans replaced with idk the first page after the title page? or what. i dunno. i don't mind doing scans though :D [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 14:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::Also when the VIZ Media volume 43 comes out next week. I think we should redo the opening sentence how the titles are laid out. it is messy as hell and confusing :S but since the book comes next week (I should be getting it next Wednesday) we'll wait til it's out to see if those titles are different again before we redo them, but just saying. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 14:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, scanning the subtitles would be nice. I'm sort of good enough to be able to translate the kanji. That, or you could ask Chao for it. As for the chapter covers, yeah, a panel from the first page would be nice instead of the Reshiram/Zekrom thing. Next week? Wow, almost forgot. Gonna be a problem with three different titles clogging up the space. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 14:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Ok, great. I will just finish the titles for now since I will have to go to work soon. When I'm home tonight, I'll do the scans. I'm hoping they will use the same titles as their translation of the magazine version since that will be the least messy. Or VS XXX but that seems unlikely. But you never know u_u [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 15:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
== Volume 45 ==
Hey can you move the chapters from [[ABW12]] to [[ABW19]] to volume version? There are the chapters included in the recently released Volume 45. Thanks! [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 01:03, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:Oh almost forgot, can you also move the BW chapters from Volume 43 back to their Viz titles? In the Viz version of Volume 43, the titles for the chapters are the same as the previous chapters from the Viz mini-volumes. Thanks! [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 01:08, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::I'll move the rounds now, I'll wait til the VIZ Media volume is officially out on Tuesday to switch those titles over. Good to know though thanks. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 23:34, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you! ^_^ [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 23:40, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:::: Speaking of which, can I go through and fix all the links now for these now? You said not to fix the links when you moved them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 02:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::Ya you can re-link them now. I think I was waiting til the volume was officially released. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::: Coolio, I wasn't sure if that's all you were waiting for so didn't wanna touch them, but I'll get on it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 03:40, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
== Black 2 & White 2 page ==
Hey, sorry for the double-post (actually I'm not even sure if I should be apologizing for that since this isn't a forum) but do you think it's a good idea to create a Black 2 & White 2 page at this point? Imo, I think it should have been created months ago when the prologue came out (wait, why isn't there a page for that round, there's a page for the Red chapter rounds) since there was the B2W2 logo on there. At this point it's pretty much confirmed that the B2W2 chapter is real with the preview of the first non-prologue round but idk I don't feel comfortable creating a new page for B2W2 by myself and without your approval. Someone added a B2W2 section on the chapter listings section on the main page of Pokémon Adventures which I think should belong there and should stay at this point. Also, on the Black & White chapter page, I've been trying to edit the "followed by" section since a while ago but even on preview it just says "Unannounced". Does someone need to create a page for the follow-up chapter before it can be edited?
Oh and one more thing. Someone should probably create a page for the manga versions of Nate and Rosa (their names are Rakutsu and Fites which pretty much means Black2 and White2 with some reversions) and create a separate page for manga Hugh. I would but I'm not even sure what to call the article since no one "official" confirmed the English translations of their names and {{u|Ataro|I don't want to get my head chopped off}}. Just thought I'd run this by you. Thanks! [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 01:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I have no idea why the prologue round wasn't made an article. It should be. Maybe because it's undecided what the round numbering will be? It'll probably be put in a volume once the BW chapter catches up do you think? For B2W2 and the new characters, you could create articles in the userspace for now (doesn't count against usual userspace limits) and we can move it when ready. I'll give you a more proper answer on those within a few days, I've been busy with work and I can barely think straight @_@ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 23:34, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::I never made a page for it because unlike the Mt. Silver chapters, there's no reason to assume that it won't be in a volume. I have a page for the two in the works, but I protected them from being made because I don't want people making them when we had little to no info. Now that we do have info, they're ready to go, but...since the likelihood of anyone in this franchise ever having the same name as them is very low...should they have (Adventures) suffix like all the other Pokedex holders? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Ah, that's what I figured, if it's likely to go in a volume then it'll get numbered once those other rounds are volume-ified and created then. I don't think that we need (Adventures) at the end if the name is so unlikely to be shared. Otherwise we'd have like "Blasty (Adventures)" instead of just "[[Blasty]]", right? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
== Timeline of events ==
Hey Zesty, I was wondering if it would be reasonable to create an article of a timeline of events in Pokémon Adventures (and possibly other long-running manga like Pokémon REBURST) especially since there's a lot to look through and it might be easier for readers to see everything in one whole page. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 20:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:Like [[Timeline of events in the anime]]? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Some other longer series like [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] and [[Magical Pokémon Journey]] would be good too. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 23:34, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::Sweet, thanks. I'll propose a project those that are interested since all of them are so long and filled with details... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Someone already made a timeline for Pokemon Adventures on Serebiiforums.com. Here I'll post the link so that you can have a reference to help you out. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?599406-Pokemon-Adventures-Timeline [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 00:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the link but I'd prefer not to use any content sourced from Serebii (even if it's the forums). Most of the info is around the wiki so we can all collaborate and write it from scratch :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:51, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Ht14/PKS|Here]] is what I have so far... so much material... if something simpler is preferred (similar to that of Serebii's) and only important events (e.g. capturing, evolving, releasing, Gym Leader/Coordinator accomplishments and not meeting characters), then I think I could work that out as well. As it stands, this might be even more material than the anime would cover, and especially since there is different focus on different characters? I'm not sure, you're the boss on this. =) [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 04:13, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::Doesn't really need to be any simpler...looks good so far!! Maybe we should mainspace it so that it can attract more attention...? Anyway, I really like the "look" of it. Great job ^o^ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Haha, thanks so much. =) Been c-ving from the major events of each round with some rewording, haha. Time needs to be checked for some... might be a few months in between chapters instead of a year... I was only estimating based on the years provided... if you'd prefer it to be mainspaced, I'm down for it. I'm giving the ok to move it. =D [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 04:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::::At the moment, do you think it's safe to presume that DP takes place three years after HGSS and that BW takes place three years after Platinum? There is evidence suggesting that the DP trio were four when GSC was taking place and if one assumes that Looker got the Plasma sages mission approximately the same time as the B2W2 prologue where Ghetsis was getting the Plasma sages started on their deeds, which was five years prior to the current setting of B2W2, then that places Platinum three years before BW. I know that these are just assumptions (albeit backed up by evidence), even the History of the Pokemon World page is mostly based on assumptions and there is the template above the page that states it. I doubt that the Pokemon Adventures timeline can be 100% completed with all 100% certain facts so should we add strongly suggested presumptions to the page? What do you think, Zesty? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 20:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Additional notes... a couple of questions now that it has been mainspaced... how/where should I place [[PSs1]] and [[PSs2]]? Also, considering we have [[Timeline of Ruby and Sapphire's 80-day challenge|this article]] already, would it be redundant if I were to have all that information again or should I instead use the {{template|main}} template? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 01:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:I would double-check with {{u|Ataro}} for the special rounds since he is more familiar with them... as far as I know they take place sometime after the {{chap|Gold, Silver & Crystal}}. Ah, I forgot about that 80-day timeline article! It's pretty big on its own and seems to be fairly complete including other storyline events (rather than just listing Badges and Ribbons) so I would use {{template|Main}}. Any other significant events can be added to either article. I think those assumptions are fine considering they are backed by evidence, though when adding them I would be sure to state "this chapter takes place approximately [years] after other!chapter, supported by the evidence of blahblahblah" and make sure that it's known it's approximate, rather than explicitly stated. Other than that everything seems good I think. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:06, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
::Alright thanks Zesty. And sorry but one more question. This may or may not be for future reference but at the beginning of the timeline page, it lists how many years prior to the series the main characters (among others) were born. But what should we do about the characters that were born either at or after the series started? If BW indeed takes place three years after Platinum, then do the math and that places Blacks birthdate (and White's too, most likely) at the same time the series started. And assuming that Rakutsu and Faitsu are 14 in B2W2 and also assuming that the chapter is two years after BW just like in the games, that means that Rakutsu and Faitsu were born two years AFTER the start of the series. And if future chapters aren't prequels and if the main characters of those chapters are kids, then that will pose an even bigger problem. So what should we do about that? Should we add a template right before the chapter where the character is assumed to be born and add it there? For example, Black was born around the same time as the RGB chapter so right before the timeline of the first chapter? And for Rakutsu and Faitsu, since they were born at around the Yellow chapter, we list their births right before the Yellow chapter timeline? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 23:08, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
== That stupid template. ==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:AdvChapterInfobox OK, I don't know who made this thing, but it doesn't seem to work.] Ever. I can't add Black 2 & White to the Black & White chapter page without it doing nothing by still saying that it's "unannounced". I also still can't get it to display the first and last chapters of HeartGold & SoulSilver. It was the same with Platinum, until Werd tinkered with the stupid thing and got it to work...for that. Also, are there even colors for Black 2 & White 2? All I get is the base green color. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:20, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:There is {{template|Black 2 color}} and {{Template|White 2 color}} - I would've made them without a space if it was me, but eh, there they are. That template is a pain in the butt. u_u I can try to figure it out later tonight or maybe ask Werd if he can help again. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:42, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
::As far as Black 2/White 2 colours being programmed to the template, I have no idea o_O it seems like it breaks every time there is a new chapter haha. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
== Important events, evolutions, badges obtained, etc. etc. for recent volumes ==
Like the title implies, someone should probably add those in for the recent volumes. I would do it myself but I kinda only know the general info for Pokemon Adventures and I'm too busy to go through all the volumes again so I'm probably not the guy. Since you're the leader of Project Manga, are you able to do it? If you're too busy, then I understand. I can try to make time to go through the volumes again to locate the key points if you want me to. [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 20:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:I will do it eventually. It really needs to be done. It's a little low on my priorities list but I'll get to it eventually if nobody else does XD [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== The owner of the Amoonguss ==
About the Amoonguss that knocked out Bianca, can we be sure that that Pokemon belonged to a Team Plasma grunt? When I read the chapter, it sure looked like Bronius was controlling it. Also, in the chapter where the regular trainers were battling the Plasma sages, one of them were controlling an Amoonguss. Can't it be assumed that Bronius was controlling that Amoonguss so therefore in the earlier chapter where the Plasma grunts were kidnapping the Pokemon in Celestia City, that one belonged to him? Idk who got the assumption that the Amoonguss belonged to a Team Plasma grunt but I'm pretty sure that it's wrong. What do you think? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 19:54, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
:Hmm. I reviewed that round and it really looks to me that the Amoonguss belongs to Bronius... I suppose the assumption came from the fact that Bronius tells the Plasma grunt that he blew his chance to steal Litwick, insinuating that he originally controlled Amoonguss when they attacked Bianca. However that is just an assumption and the Amoonguss seems more clearly associated with Bronius, especially since Black calls for Amoonguss's Trainer to reveal themself and Brav leads Black to Bronius first. In addition to the evidence you mentioned from later it seems more likely to assume it is in Bronius's ownership rather than the Plasma grunt's. Unless the Plasma grunt was shown in the flashback with Amoonguss (which didn't happen) then there's no reason to assume they are together. Bronius seems a lot more likely to me. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks Zesty! I corrected it! [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 20:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
== [[Lucy's Seviper]] ==
This anime Pokémon page clearly does not meet the requirments to be given its own page, however reading the Manga section of the page and assuming you use simaliur guildlines, I think the page could be kept but as a part of progect manga. As the head of Progect Manga, this is completely up to you. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 14:39, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:This is a tricky article as the character appears across several media (games, anime, manga). The Adventures section alone seems to qualify it as notable, plus it's backed by the [[Pokémon Battle Frontier]], anime, and game information. As far as the governing project I would honestly have no idea, other cross-canon characters like [[Whitney's Miltank]] seem to be under Project Anime... honestly, I'd rather put it under {{bp|Project CharacterDex}} if anything, since there's an idea floating around with the other staff to make CharacterDex cover characters as a whole, not just game characters (and Seviper is a game character anyway so yeah). [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 18:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
== Pokémon Infobox ==
Would articles for any of these be suitable: Emerald's Dusclops, Sudowoodo, Black's Brav, Costa{{tt|*|to be fair, I'm not sure if this will qualify since I haven't fully read the BW arc yet}}, Platinum's Lopunny, the legendary beasts (at the very least Suicune and Raikou), and Silver's Rhyperior? I do have arguments for each{{tt|*|again, besides Black's Pokémon}} Pokémon listed if you're curious. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
:Brav should get an article for sure I think. Dusclops and Sudowoodo is your call since I'm not too familiar with the Emerald arc. Costa I'm leaning towards "no" for now. I'd say no to Lopunny cause it wasn't in many battles... Rhyperior I'm leaning towards yes though. For the legendary beasts, I'd say it's probably notable for a combination article (something like {{red link|Legendary beasts (Adventures)}}). Sorry for the slow reply, hope that helps :D [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 21:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
== [[Template:User 500 Day]] ==
I have a question about the template, is it 500 edits total, or 500 mainspace edits? Also, do I have enough edits to be able to use this? Thanks. — [[User:Reshi643|<span style="color:#7038F8">Reshi</span>]][[User talk:Reshi643|<span style="color:#F08030">643</span>]] 03:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
:Well, for the server day of July 17, you had more than 500 mainspace edits anyway, so go ahead and add it to your page ^o^ [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:39, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
== Xerneas Sprite ==
Hello there. I came across a few websites and found an official Xerneas sprite for X and Y: http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/b/b9/Xerneas_Sprite.png However, I'm not sure if it is the '''actual''' sprite, and also not sure how to upload it onto this website. Should we consider adding it to [[Xerneas (Pokémon)|Xerneas]]' page? Thanks! --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 20:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
:If you want to upload a picture, here is the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Upload link] to do so, though I would get the picture from a better source than Wikia. — [[User:Reshi643|<span style="color:#7038F8">Reshi</span>]][[User talk:Reshi643|<span style="color:#F08030">643</span>]] 20:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
::I would recommend confirming that it is indeed the official sprite before uploading it - I don't personally know yet, sorry! Also, as Reshi643 mentioned, try to avoid relying on Wikia as a source ^^' [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 20:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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