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Problem: My Smeargle knews sketch, thundershock, and disable. Later on, I got into a battle with a wild Tauros, and I had my Smeargle use tranform, shortly after doing so I defeated it. After the battle, I looked over My pokemon's stats and found my Smeargle had kept the moves of the wild Tauros'. I think this may be some error in HeartGold And SoulSilver's programming.Does anyone else know why this may have happened? --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 07:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
== Sketch ==


Question: What moves can Sketch not copy?  Asking because it says almost any move.  [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 03:19, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Question: What moves can Sketch not copy?  Asking because it says almost any move.  [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 03:19, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:I don't believe Sketch can copy Selfdestruct or Explosion since a Pokémon using one of those moves would faint afterwards, either ending the battle or bringing in another opponent. Plus, Smeargle would likely need to be at a MUCH higher level in order of survive such an attack.
:I don't believe Sketch can copy Selfdestruct or Explosion since a Pokémon using one of those moves would faint afterwards, either ending the battle or bringing in another opponent. Plus, Smeargle would likely need to be at a MUCH higher level in order of survive such an attack. {{unsigned|Quagbert}}
*Sketch can copy any move, as it works on moves disabled by things such as paralysis or sleep. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 03:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
*Sketch can copy any move, as it works on moves disabled by things such as paralysis or sleep. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 03:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
But does it copy Struggle, Metronome, etc?  [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 03:48, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
But does it copy Struggle, Metronome, etc?  [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 03:48, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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*Say you in a Double Battle.  Your Pokemon are a Smeargle that wants to Sketch move X, and Pokemon Y that knows move X.  Pokemon Y is faster than Smeargle.  Pokemon Y is asleep.  For Pokemon Y, you select move X.  For Smeargle, you select Sketch and target Pokemon Y.  Pokemon Y's turn executes: nothing happens, as it is asleep.  Smeargle's turn executes: Smeargle Sketches move X as if Pokemon Y had used it.  End of battle, Smeargle now knows move X.  So basically, for Sketch to work, the target need only have *selected* the move-to-be-sketched, not necessarily have used it.  This method works for every move except Struggle, which of course cannot be selected.  This only works in Gen3, not in Gen2.  --[[User:MasamuneXGP|MasamuneXGP]] 04:02, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
*Say you in a Double Battle.  Your Pokemon are a Smeargle that wants to Sketch move X, and Pokemon Y that knows move X.  Pokemon Y is faster than Smeargle.  Pokemon Y is asleep.  For Pokemon Y, you select move X.  For Smeargle, you select Sketch and target Pokemon Y.  Pokemon Y's turn executes: nothing happens, as it is asleep.  Smeargle's turn executes: Smeargle Sketches move X as if Pokemon Y had used it.  End of battle, Smeargle now knows move X.  So basically, for Sketch to work, the target need only have *selected* the move-to-be-sketched, not necessarily have used it.  This method works for every move except Struggle, which of course cannot be selected.  This only works in Gen3, not in Gen2.  --[[User:MasamuneXGP|MasamuneXGP]] 04:02, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
**Then what about Shadow Rush? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 04:01, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Then what about Shadow Rush? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 04:01, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Yeah can the Shadow Attacks be Sketched?-Pokencyclopedia {{unsigned|Pokencyclopedia}}
****The shadow moves CANNOT be sketched. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 00:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


**Yeah can the Shadow Attacks be Sketched?-Pokencyclopedia
Why is Smeargle in Breeding for the list of every move page I have checked?  Is there a particular reason Sketch counts as breeding? {{unsigned|Surskitty}}
 
**The shadow moves CANNOT be sketched. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 00:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 
Why is Smeargle in Breeding for the list of every move page I have checked?  Is there a particular reason Sketch counts as breeding?
*Probably because a Sketched move can be breeded onto a baby Smeargle. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 04:00, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Probably because a Sketched move can be breeded onto a baby Smeargle. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 04:00, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:It's not any more, probably because some moron took it out, regardless of the fact that Smeargle is pretty much all you need as a father for any Pokémon in the ground egg group. There's a lot of shitheads on this website who are hellbent on removing perfectly good uploads and information. Either they're just ass-burgers (most likely scenario) or they're under the thumb of the whoever pays the loot for all the advertising they show on this page (possible, but, why?) - the advertising industry pretty much corrupts any media it's dirty money comes in contact with.[[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 07:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not any more, probably because some moron took it out, regardless of the fact that Smeargle is pretty much all you need as a father for any Pokémon in the ground egg group. There's a lot of shitheads on this website who are hellbent on removing perfectly good uploads and information. Either they're just ass-burgers (most likely scenario) or they're under the thumb of the whoever pays the loot for all the advertising they show on this page (possible, but, why?) - the advertising industry pretty much corrupts any media it's dirty money comes in contact with.[[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 07:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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:Actually, having the intended target asleep does work in [[Generation III]].  I've Sketched Transform that way myself in Ruby.  Granted, they may have changed that for [[Generation IV]]...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, having the intended target asleep does work in [[Generation III]].  I've Sketched Transform that way myself in Ruby.  Granted, they may have changed that for [[Generation IV]]...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::You can Sketch Transform like a regular move. You don't have to do anything special. --[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">S</span><span style="color: red">h</span><span style="color: brown">i</span><span style="color: red">n</span><span style="color: brown">y</span> <span style="color: red">N</span><span style="color: brown">o</span><span style="color: red">c</span><span style="color: brown">t</span><span style="color: red">o</span><span style="color: brown">w</span><span style="color: red">l</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">T</span><span style="color: red">a</span><span style="color: brown">l</span><span style="color: red">k</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">C</span><span style="color: red">o</span><span style="color: brown">n</span><span style="color: red">t</span><span style="color: brown">r</span><span style="color: red">i</span><span style="color:brown">b</span><span style="color: red">s</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani408MS.gif]][[Image:Ani410MS.gif]] 14:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::You can Sketch Transform like a regular move. You don't have to do anything special. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">S</span><span style="color: red">h</span><span style="color: brown">i</span><span style="color: red">n</span><span style="color: brown">y</span> <span style="color: red">N</span><span style="color: brown">o</span><span style="color: red">c</span><span style="color: brown">t</span><span style="color: red">o</span><span style="color: brown">w</span><span style="color: red">l</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">T</span><span style="color: red">a</span><span style="color: brown">l</span><span style="color: red">k</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: brown">C</span><span style="color: red">o</span><span style="color: brown">n</span><span style="color: red">t</span><span style="color: brown">r</span><span style="color: red">i</span><span style="color:brown">b</span><span style="color: red">s</span>]]</sup> 14:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Incorrect.  Sketch will fail if used on Transform that succeeded in transforming the user. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 12:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Incorrect.  Sketch will fail if used on Transform that succeeded in transforming the user. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 12:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


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: Chatter is probably un-sketch-able due to audio limitations. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 23:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
: Chatter is probably un-sketch-able due to audio limitations. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 23:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:: That's absurd. I see that same bullshit parroted all over, but never any explanation. If it were truly a hardware issue, the move itself wouldn't work on Chatot, either (duh). Rather, it's probably to prevent the stupid situation of someone having Smeargle "learn" a chatter, only to find out that all of their other chatot's have learned what the Smeargle did (the game only saves one sound, which isn't traded with the pokemon).
:: That's absurd. I see that same bullshit parroted all over, but never any explanation. If it were truly a hardware issue, the move itself wouldn't work on Chatot, either (duh). Rather, it's probably to prevent the stupid situation of someone having Smeargle "learn" a chatter, only to find out that all of their other chatot's have learned what the Smeargle did (the game only saves one sound, which isn't traded with the pokemon). {{unsigned|Iliekmudkips}}


== Breed ==
== Breed ==
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Should it be mentioned in the Trivia section that it's sprite from Gen III is identical to it's Gen IV sprite? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 01:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned in the Trivia section that it's sprite from Gen III is identical to it's Gen IV sprite? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 01:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:No, sprite trivia are most of the time not really trivia worthy. Also, it is incorrect to say they are 'identical' since when you look at them side by side there's a big difference (in terms of pixels, etc.) <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 01:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:No, sprite trivia are most of the time not really trivia worthy. Also, it is incorrect to say they are 'identical' since when you look at them side by side there's a big difference (in terms of pixels, etc.) <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 01:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, darn! I just did that on Aggron's page! [[User:Slowbro|Slowbro]]


== In side games ==
== In side games ==
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I Have A problem: I just recently taught my Smeargle transform through sketch. Besides that, It had the moves disable and Thundershock. Later on that day, I fought a wild Tauros and used transform. During the battle, it said that an ability called anger point activated, and then after I completed the battle, My Smeargle had lost all of its previous moves, and kept the Wild Tauros'. Can anyone explain how this could have happened? {{unsigned|Proctor}}
I Have A problem: I just recently taught my Smeargle transform through sketch. Besides that, It had the moves disable and Thundershock. Later on that day, I fought a wild Tauros and used transform. During the battle, it said that an ability called anger point activated, and then after I completed the battle, My Smeargle had lost all of its previous moves, and kept the Wild Tauros'. Can anyone explain how this could have happened? {{unsigned|Proctor}}
:New comments to the bottom please. What game is this in? I know that in some games there is a glitch that causes a Pokémon which has transformed to keep the transformed moveset after the battle ends. You probably activated that glitch. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 01:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
:New comments to the bottom please. What game is this in? I know that in some games there is a glitch that causes a Pokémon which has transformed to keep the transformed moveset after the battle ends. You probably activated that glitch. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 01:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::It was HeartGold, And sorry, im new to posting things on the site, But can I get get more insight on how this glitch is activated? --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 22:20, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Transform glitch|That was easier to find than I expected . . .]] <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 22:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
==Sketch question==
After Smeargle Sketches a move (Psycho Boost for example) how PP many does Psycho Boost have? - ([[User:Sméarglé|Sméarglé]] 04:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC))
:The full non-PP Upped amount (so 5 in Psycho Boost's case). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
== Two Names switched ==
Two of Smeargle's names got switched : Queulorior is the French name, while Farbeagle is the German one.
I'm fixing this right now.
[[User:Takaoldaria|Takaoldaria]] ([[User talk:Takaoldaria|talk]]) 18:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
== Metrenome ==
I know smeargle can't copy metrenome due to it turning into another move... but what about the trick someone mentioned earlier (an asleep pokemon) that uses it and doesnt wake up, will smeargle learn metrenome? If so, this makes Transform, Metrenome, and moves like Bolt strike that do a ton of damage a lot easier. {{unsigned|Pikachu3634}}
:As of Generation VI, the only moves that cannot be copied via {{m|Sketch}} are {{m|Chatter}} and {{m|Struggle}}. This is already noted on the relevant articles. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 03:21, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
::If you use Sketch on a move that calls another move, such as Metronome, you Sketch the original move (Metronome) not the called move. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
== Japanese name ==
I know it's romanized as Doble, but I'm pretty sure this is just a play on the Japanese pronunciation of Doberman(ドーベル Dober -> ドーブル Dobur), combined with a pun on the word double. {{unsigned|Agneyastra}}