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:::Ah okay, that'd be great. I guess all of that points to "my best guess" above. (For GenIV+, I guess we can logically assume it works like Focus Sash, just with 10% instead of full HP.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC) | :::Ah okay, that'd be great. I guess all of that points to "my best guess" above. (For GenIV+, I guess we can logically assume it works like Focus Sash, just with 10% instead of full HP.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::Ok, just to finalize this: while SnorlaxMonster's tests in Generations III-VII [[Special:Diff/2664246|apparently]] confirmed Focus Band and Sash can protect from both Future Sight and Doom Desire ("alternatively" from above), I was able to confirm Focus Band can indeed also protect from Future Sight in Gen II. All contradictions should be fixed. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC) | ::::Ok, just to finalize this: while SnorlaxMonster's tests in Generations III-VII [[Special:Diff/2664246|apparently]] confirmed Focus Band and Sash can protect from both Future Sight and Doom Desire ("alternatively" from above), I was able to confirm Focus Band can indeed also protect from Future Sight in Gen II. All contradictions should be fixed. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC) | ||
== Ash's Desk == | |||
In the article for the [[Soothe Bell]], there is a picture ({{File:Ash Room.png}}) that shows Soothe Bells on Ash's desk. However, there is also a Focus Band right next to the bells. Any particular reason why the image is mentioned in that article but not this one? [[User:Striker212|Striker212]] ([[User talk:Striker212|talk]]) 20:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
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Future Sight and Doom Desire
Where does the information that Focus Band cannot protect against Focus Band in Generation II come from? It's not from Future Sight, UPC disagrees, and I doubt it based on reading the disassembly. (You wouldn't be able to infer from Endure, as that apparently "fades" earlier.)
Where does the Doom Desire Generation III info come from? (Where does the information that Focus Band cannot protect from either in Generation IV and beyond come from?) Again, none of that is in the moves' articles.
My best guess is that de:Fokus-Band might be correct: that it can protect against both prior to Generation IV, and against neither starting in Generation IV. Alternatively, it may still be both (for Focus Band and Focus Sash). Nescientist (talk) 18:00, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- My guess is that it comes from In-battle effect item#Focus Band. The alleged Future Sight/Doom Desire difference is probably due to a misinterpretation of the sentence Cannot protect from damage from Future Sight or Doom Desire, except in Generation III. You would need to confirm with Chosen to be sure, however. --SnorlaxMonster 18:20, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- ...and apparently the person who added that Focus Band cannot protect from Future Sight/Doom Desire "except in Generation III" to that page was me. I cannot remember doing that, so I don't know what my source for that was (although I also edited the Future Sight article around that time, so it suggests it may have been the result of my own testing, but I definitely did not test Gen II). I'll try it out in Gen III then and see if I can get Focus Band to survive Future Sight. (The problem with Focus Band however is that it's simple to verify if it does work, but very difficult to prove that it doesn't.)--SnorlaxMonster 18:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ah okay, that'd be great. I guess all of that points to "my best guess" above. (For GenIV+, I guess we can logically assume it works like Focus Sash, just with 10% instead of full HP.) Nescientist (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, just to finalize this: while SnorlaxMonster's tests in Generations III-VII apparently confirmed Focus Band and Sash can protect from both Future Sight and Doom Desire ("alternatively" from above), I was able to confirm Focus Band can indeed also protect from Future Sight in Gen II. All contradictions should be fixed. Nescientist (talk) 11:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ah okay, that'd be great. I guess all of that points to "my best guess" above. (For GenIV+, I guess we can logically assume it works like Focus Sash, just with 10% instead of full HP.) Nescientist (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- ...and apparently the person who added that Focus Band cannot protect from Future Sight/Doom Desire "except in Generation III" to that page was me. I cannot remember doing that, so I don't know what my source for that was (although I also edited the Future Sight article around that time, so it suggests it may have been the result of my own testing, but I definitely did not test Gen II). I'll try it out in Gen III then and see if I can get Focus Band to survive Future Sight. (The problem with Focus Band however is that it's simple to verify if it does work, but very difficult to prove that it doesn't.)--SnorlaxMonster 18:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Ash's Desk
In the article for the Soothe Bell, there is a picture (File:Ash Room.png) that shows Soothe Bells on Ash's desk. However, there is also a Focus Band right next to the bells. Any particular reason why the image is mentioned in that article but not this one? Striker212 (talk) 20:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
