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:Yeah, Wonder Guard doesn't protect against status type moves. And yes, Electric and Grass are the only ones super effective against Water. Could be a fun surprise. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 15:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | :Yeah, Wonder Guard doesn't protect against status type moves. And yes, Electric and Grass are the only ones super effective against Water. Could be a fun surprise. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 15:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
Does this mean there's a technique to removing {{ | Does this mean there's a technique to removing {{type|ground}}'s immunity to Electric? <span style="color:#91A3B0">—</span>[[User:Venomoth|<span style="color:black; font-size: 13pt">'''''V'''e<small>№</small>moth''</span>]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 00:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Seems so. Someone gotta check this out. | :Seems so. Someone gotta check this out. | ||
:But if its a Rhyhorn (or evolutions) with lightningrod, It may not work. [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 21:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | :But if its a Rhyhorn (or evolutions) with lightningrod, It may not work. [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 21:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Does it work through Substitute? --- Pokémon [[User:Pokémon|<sub>Questions?</sub>]] -- 22:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | Does it work through Substitute? --- Pokémon [[User:Pokémon|<sub>Questions?</sub>]] -- 22:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
:No. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC) | :No. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Variation == | |||
Do you remember in [[EP005]], where Ash's Pikachu's Thunderbolt did damage to Brock's Onix, in the first part the attack appeared to not make damage but then the sprinklers '''literally''' soaked Onix so Pikachu could attack it, much like it is done to remove Ground's Immunity to Electric, is this really notable to put on the article? And yeah I know that the attack hadn't been introduced at the time but it is interesting to note isn't it?--[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 16:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
:The anime does this stuff all the time, if you didn't know, please look at [[Anime physics#Move and type effectiveness errors|this page]] -[[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#A00000">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#0000A0">'''chloe'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#00A000">'''1'''</span>]] 03:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
== STAB == | |||
If I soak an Electric-type Pokémon, will its Discharge still get STAB or will it be without? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:No, because it's now a Water type. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 08:52, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Gen VI effect - same or different? == | |||
I've demonstrated that {{m|Trick-or-Treat}} adds a Ghost type ''without'' replacing the Pokemon's original typing (yes, Trick-or-Treat + dual-typed Pokemon = three-typed Pokemon). Since Soak is a move of similar purpose, can somebody check how it works in [[Pokemon X and Y]]? | |||
Namely, we need to know: | |||
* Check if it works or fails against an already-Water-typed Pokemon. | |||
* Soak a pure Ground type (e.g. {{p|Diglett}} family) and check if they are vulnerable to Electric or Ice. | |||
* Soak a dual-Ground type (e.g. {{p|Geodude}} or {{p|Rhyhorn}} families) and check if they are vulnerable to Electric or Ice. | |||
In Generation V, Soaking any Pokemon meant they became pure Water (vulnerable to Electric, resistant to Ice), but if this move was changed to a Water-type variation of Trick-or-Treat, Grounders should retain the immunity to Electric and lose the vulnerability to Ice. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 18:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Water-type moves == | |||
If you use Soak on a Pokémon, and that Pokémon uses a Water-type attack, will it get STAB?[[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 19:21, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Well, duh, of course it will.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:28, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Net Ball == | |||
Does anyone know if Soak makes Net Ball work? | |||
I think it should be on the page either way. | |||
--[[User:Enderverse87|Enderverse87]] ([[User talk:Enderverse87|talk]]) 15:45, 2 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Wording == | |||
I had to check another source to see if Soak's effect persisted even if the "Soaked" Pokémon switched out, which it does not. The wording of this sentence: "Soak changes the target's type to pure Water; the effect lasts as long as the target is in battle", makes it vague (in my opinion) as to what "in battle" specifically means. Is there a way we could change the wording so as to make that more clear? [[User:Ki|Ki]] ([[User talk:Ki|talk]]) 19:45, 7 December 2014 (UTC) | |||