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Is it worth putting in the trivia that Latias and Latios are the only legendary Pokemon confirmed by the games to be species and not individuals?  Except for maybe Manaphy, since something had to have laid the egg. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

:<s>Multiple Mew and Lugia have been seen too.</s> <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> 1337Fire </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 14:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:What I meant was, it's not really ''correct''-ish because it's really possible there are others. Take Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres in Pokémon Snap for example. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> 1337Fire </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot about Snap.  Thanks, sorry. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

==Arceus==
"Latias is one of the few non-Flying-types who can learn Fly. The others are Mew, Smeargle, Vibrava, Flygon, Latios, and Giratina."

Does that mean that Arceus counts as flying type do to plates?  [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:Yes, Arceus can be a Flying-type due to plates, so it doesn't count. Don't forget, use four tildes to sign your posts. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 09:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::Then some should change Latios's version because it's trivia includes Arceus. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]

== Latias's human Special form ==

Maybe we should put up a shot of her human form? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:You mean...{{mov|Bianca}}? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 14:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Not all Latias have human form. So it is not needed. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 12:14, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I think Lovely Rose means [[a:File:Pokémon Special Latias human form.jpg|Latias's human form from Pokémon Special]], and I agree that it should be added to the "In the manga" section. However, I can't add it because the page is currently protected. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 20:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Latias and Latios Species ==

Should it be mentioned in the trivia section that while Latios and Latias are one species in the anime, only with tons of sexual dimorphism, the games' internal coding considers them two separate species?  What I mean is that they're different from Nidoran because an egg produced by either gender Nidoran can also hatch into either gender Nidoran, but an egg produced by a Latias can only hatch into a Latias, and an egg laid by a Latios can only hatch into a Latios.  I bred them using Action Replay, and all the eggs produced by Latias and Ditto hatched into Latias, all the eggs produced by Latios and Ditto hatched into Latios, and all the eggs produced by Latios and Latias hatched into Latias.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 01:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:GameFreak didn't want you to be able to breed them in the first place, do you think they would do something that clever with something you shouldn't be able to do?--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 03:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::They also didn't want you to be able to make Arceus ??? type, but they gave it a sprite for that type anyway.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Trying to breed a Latios from a Latias wouldn't make your game crash like ???-type Arceus would (stopping game crashes is in fact the only reason you can get eggs from Lati@s at all) its just not very clever is all.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 14:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Location in HGSS ==

It only appeared in SoulSilver? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 12:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite eyecolor in Gen4 ==

It looks to me that Latias' eye color of the shiny sprite changes between DP (gold) and Platinum/HGSS (green). The backsprite is still gold. Can someone confirm that? [[User:RWMVG1DC|RWMVG1DC]] 14:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite changes ==

So... the sprite table's listing the Platinum sprite being the same as the HGSS one. But it's definetly displaying as the DP one on my Platinum (???) and the newer sprite on my SS (as it should). Can someone double-check this on their own Plat to make sure that I'm not insane (or if they slipped the newer sprite in the English Plat or something) and before I fiddle around with the images? And does this sound too confusing for anybody to understand? ?_? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♥</span>]]</sup> 21:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

==Origin==
Since it & Blaziken were originally the same Pokemon, could Latias (& Latios) also be based on Junglefowl/Chickens? Worth noting I think.[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 21:49, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I found about beings called "Aeons" that have genders, and angel-like, and normally comes in pairs. lati@s might be baised off of that due to being in pairs, and having genders. they have levitate, so they might be angel-like.
[[User:Rockets-mew-of-vp|Rockets-mew-of-vp]] 22:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds plausible, given that they are called the ''Eon Pokemon'', could you post a link to verify it? <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 16:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeon#In_Gnosticism

Rockets-mew-of-vp is an associate of mine.  I was the one that explained to him the connection I saw between the Eon Pokemon and Aeons.  In the article, it explains that certain Aeons are immaterial beings of concepts.  They are emanations from God, they also emanate other aeons.  32 appear to exist in all, 34 in certain interpretations.  This may also explain how it is they have genders and are incapable of mating, yet have more than one exist at a time.  Though in games canon, Kyogre, Groudon, and Raquaza appear in two different regions, but are native to only one and being one of a kind each.

Another reason being, as of you course you have gathered, is that the words "eon" and "aeon" are the same, it is only in North America that the word is spelled as "eon" rather than "aeon".  They are both the same word having the same general meaning of a great span of time. All information I have gathered on the subject matter has been from wikipedia.
:I do think it is highly likely that the Lati were based on the Aeons and that should definitely be added to the Origin section (it kinda puts my Junglefowl theory to shame...) <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 01:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== Wrong file ==

The "Blaziken/Latias" Trivia links the wrong archive page. It links to Latias_Combusken, not Latias_Blaziken [[User:Togelover|Togelover]] 23:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Evobox ==

Since Latias & Latios are the same Pokemon, but with gender differences (like [[Talk:Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)#Evo box|Nidoran]], & [[Talk:Volbeat (Pokémon)#Evolution Section|Volbeat/Illumise]]), this should be represented in the Evolution section
{{User:Vuvuzela2010/Template: Evobox/Lati}}
<small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 19:14, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== No Red Eyes ==
Latias is NOT the only Pokémon you can summon with a ranger sign that has non-red eyes. I looked at Graveler, Aipom, and Aron, and THEIR Sugimori art shoes them with black, blue, and blue eyes, respectively. I bet there's even more. As long as we can't ''add'' trivia, I'm ''removing'' it. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 01:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
:[[Ranger_Signs#Storyline|This is what it's referring to.]] <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
::Er...additionally it says ''legendary'' Pokémon. Last I checked, Graveler, Aipom, and Aron aren't legendary... <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

== Latias in Anime ==

Didn't Nurse Joy have a Latias that she used against Brock's brother's Rhyperior in a gym inspection?  Not sure if that caunts as showing up in the anime or not, since Ash wasn't in that episode. --[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 02:23, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. Not sure why this page shows Nurse Joy's Latias yet doesn't mention it. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 02:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
:Oh wait, it is mentioned, never mind. It counts. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 02:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
::Hang on, there seems to be a problem. In the trivia section: "Latias and Lugia are the only legendary Pokémon in the anime to be seen being able to produce offspring." "Latias and Jirachi are, to date, the only Generation III Pokémon to have not appeared in the main anime series." Only one of these can be correct, so i'm going to delete the second entry about no appearance in the anime. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:43, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah, no one seemed to remove it once latias did make an anime appearance.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 11:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)