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== Discussing before edit war == | == Discussing before edit war == | ||
Hey, User:YashSen made edit to the episode pages of XY001 through 018. Can you revert these edits as all that is speculation? Also you might need to protect those pages, since an edit war could occur. → [[User talk: | Hey, User:YashSen made edit to the episode pages of XY001 through 018. Can you revert these edits as all that is speculation? Also you might need to protect those pages, since an edit war could occur. → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 6:45 <small>PM</small>, July 14, 2015 (IST) 13:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Hey, what do you mean by edit war? I don't repeat the same mistake twice or more. So no need to protect them. If reverting, then I am reverting them myself! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 13:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | :Hey, what do you mean by edit war? I don't repeat the same mistake twice or more. So no need to protect them. If reverting, then I am reverting them myself! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 13:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::I had undone all of them. Now no need to protect them please! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 13:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ::I had undone all of them. Now no need to protect them please! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 13:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::No need to protect it, there wasn't any actual reversions, so it's fine. About the info you added Yash Sen, all that could easily just be placed in the Pokémon in South Asia page (ironic, I know) instead. Either that or condense it into a few sentences.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:43, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | :::No need to protect it, there wasn't any actual reversions, so it's fine. About the info you added Yash Sen, all that could easily just be placed in the Pokémon in South Asia page (ironic, I know) instead. Either that or condense it into a few sentences.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:43, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::I said that you '''might''' have to protect those page. And that info already exists on SA page as <code>From the start of the season, Hungama started skipping the title cards of the episodes.</code>. Also the episode pages as <code>For unknown reasons, the title card along with the theme song was skipped in the Hindi dub.</code>. Adding <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues. The reasons for skipping the title card along with the theme song too is that it gets skipped as the theme song length is shorter (i.e. of 30 seconds) than the theme songs made by [[4Kids Entertainment]] (which used to be of 1 minute or of 47 seconds long) and there computer system is such that to skip a part of episode, it should be more than 30 seconds and that is why they skip the title card too along with the theme song.</code> is just wrong as it is full of speculation. → [[User talk: | ::::I said that you '''might''' have to protect those page. And that info already exists on SA page as <code>From the start of the season, Hungama started skipping the title cards of the episodes.</code>. Also the episode pages as <code>For unknown reasons, the title card along with the theme song was skipped in the Hindi dub.</code>. Adding <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues. The reasons for skipping the title card along with the theme song too is that it gets skipped as the theme song length is shorter (i.e. of 30 seconds) than the theme songs made by [[4Kids Entertainment]] (which used to be of 1 minute or of 47 seconds long) and there computer system is such that to skip a part of episode, it should be more than 30 seconds and that is why they skip the title card too along with the theme song.</code> is just wrong as it is full of speculation. → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 9:10 <small>PM</small>, July 14, 2015 (IST) 15:40, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::Adding at least <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues.</code> will be okay as this info doesn't need any source as this type of simple edits can be simply added, and even if this info or that full info which I added to those pages before (which I reverted) needs source, then we can add the template ''fact'' for now as the info might be true, and then if we didn't got any source for it, then we can simply remove it! I meant that we can add like this <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues<sup>[citation needed]</sup>. The reasons for skipping the title card along with the theme song too is that it gets skipped as the theme song length is shorter (i.e. of 30 seconds) than the theme songs made by [[4Kids Entertainment]] (which used to be of 1 minute or of 47 seconds long) and there computer system is such that to skip a part of episode, it should be more than 30 seconds and that is why they skip the title card too along with the theme song<sup>[citation needed]</sup>.</code>. We can add like that! So simple! Also, I am not adding it now as I will wait for PikaTepig's reply. [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 16:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | :::::Adding at least <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues.</code> will be okay as this info doesn't need any source as this type of simple edits can be simply added, and even if this info or that full info which I added to those pages before (which I reverted) needs source, then we can add the template ''fact'' for now as the info might be true, and then if we didn't got any source for it, then we can simply remove it! I meant that we can add like this <code>The title card was skipped in the Hindi dub as they skipped the theme song too. The reasons for skipping the theme song is that [[Pokémon in South Asia|Hungama TV]] (who airs the season in [[Pokémon in South Asia|India]]) were unable to replace the [[Media:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|original logo]] in the theme song with [[Media:Pokémon XY logo Southeast Asia.png|the logo they use in the episodes]] (in promos and in [[Who's that Pokémon]] segment) as it's animation is tough for the channel and they want to replace it due to currently some unknown issues<sup>[citation needed]</sup>. The reasons for skipping the title card along with the theme song too is that it gets skipped as the theme song length is shorter (i.e. of 30 seconds) than the theme songs made by [[4Kids Entertainment]] (which used to be of 1 minute or of 47 seconds long) and there computer system is such that to skip a part of episode, it should be more than 30 seconds and that is why they skip the title card too along with the theme song<sup>[citation needed]</sup>.</code>. We can add like that! So simple! Also, I am not adding it now as I will wait for PikaTepig's reply. [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 16:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
{{indent}}That is still far too long. And that whole also rinks of speculation. I think the way it is now is just fine (well, maybe not with the "For unknown reasons; it should just be "The titlecard and theme song were skipped in the Hindi dub"). There's no need for a long winded sentence that is potentially incorrect. We shouldn't bore users who read the trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | {{indent}}That is still far too long. And that whole also rinks of speculation. I think the way it is now is just fine (well, maybe not with the "For unknown reasons; it should just be "The titlecard and theme song were skipped in the Hindi dub"). There's no need for a long winded sentence that is potentially incorrect. We shouldn't bore users who read the trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:The whole sentence that YashSen posted has no source. It is also incorrect. Because there is no such computer system that prevents skipping a part of episode shorter than 30 seconds. In earlier episodes, Hungama edited some violence shots like the moves DoubleSlap, Tackle, etc. They even used to skip Misty pulling Brock's ear. These parts were of 1 and 2 seconds. Hence, the whole sentence above is incorrect. Hence, the sentence that exists already is correct. I think that including or not including ''For unknown reasons'' wont make any difference, but as some other points too include this (like '''''For unknown reasons''', the title card is lacking the characters' shadows and the To Be Continued text does not appear in the end of the episode in the American version.'') I think we can include it too. → [[User talk: | :The whole sentence that YashSen posted has no source. It is also incorrect. Because there is no such computer system that prevents skipping a part of episode shorter than 30 seconds. In earlier episodes, Hungama edited some violence shots like the moves DoubleSlap, Tackle, etc. They even used to skip Misty pulling Brock's ear. These parts were of 1 and 2 seconds. Hence, the whole sentence above is incorrect. Hence, the sentence that exists already is correct. I think that including or not including ''For unknown reasons'' wont make any difference, but as some other points too include this (like '''''For unknown reasons''', the title card is lacking the characters' shadows and the To Be Continued text does not appear in the end of the episode in the American version.'') I think we can include it too. → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 12:33 <small>PM</small>, July 15, 2015 (IST) 07:03, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::The "For unknown reasons" thing is just more of a personal taste. I find the sentence very amateur-ish and unprofessional. But that's just me. I'm open to leaving it as it is, though.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 07:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | ::The "For unknown reasons" thing is just more of a personal taste. I find the sentence very amateur-ish and unprofessional. But that's just me. I'm open to leaving it as it is, though.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 07:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::@PikaTepig, for there system, there is a difference between cutting and skipping. As Pokemon episodes are too long for there system. Therefore, they divide each episode into parts and then air them one by one. In that, they don't air the theme song part or air when they show. Otherwise, in S04 in many episodes initially the theme song was skipped but then how were they aired for the same episodes during reruns? It's not possible to restore a scene which was '''cut (or deleted)'''. About Misty pulling Brock ears and violent scenes, they have '''cut''' it whereas about theme songs they '''skip or don't air that part'''. Hope you can understand what I am trying to say! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 09:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | :::@PikaTepig, for there system, there is a difference between cutting and skipping. As Pokemon episodes are too long for there system. Therefore, they divide each episode into parts and then air them one by one. In that, they don't air the theme song part or air when they show. Otherwise, in S04 in many episodes initially the theme song was skipped but then how were they aired for the same episodes during reruns? It's not possible to restore a scene which was '''cut (or deleted)'''. About Misty pulling Brock ears and violent scenes, they have '''cut''' it whereas about theme songs they '''skip or don't air that part'''. Hope you can understand what I am trying to say! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 09:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::What is your source for that? → [[User talk: | ::::What is your source for that? → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 6:32 <small>PM</small>, July 16, 2015 (IST) 13:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::Every edit don't need a source as they are just a thing of '''Common sense'''. Anyway, if they really need a source, then also still we can add them by putting the tag "Fact" and then will search for the source. If we don't get any source, then we can easily change it. So simple! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 18:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | :::::Every edit don't need a source as they are just a thing of '''Common sense'''. Anyway, if they really need a source, then also still we can add them by putting the tag "Fact" and then will search for the source. If we don't get any source, then we can easily change it. So simple! [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 18:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
{{indent}}What do you think, ForceFire? → [[User talk: | {{indent}}What do you think, ForceFire? → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 10:48 <small>AM</small>, July 17, 2015 (IST) 05:18, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Yash Sen, you would never know how their system works. You don't work for them, so you can't possibly know how much their system can handle. All that your saying is baseless speculation. So no, no matter how hard you try, we are '''not''' adding that information in--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | :Yash Sen, you would never know how their system works. You don't work for them, so you can't possibly know how much their system can handle. All that your saying is baseless speculation. So no, no matter how hard you try, we are '''not''' adding that information in--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::And what about the tag "Fact"??? [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 08:20, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | ::And what about the tag "Fact"??? [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 08:20, 17 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
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The merchandise section is not formatted correctly - particularly the seventh point. The third point being mentioned about cheetos (also uncle chips as far as I remember) and stuff requires a [http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/life/2004/01/12/stories/2004011200180200.htm source]. Also, the fact about the manga distribution taking place through mainly online portals like Amazon should be mentioned. Thanks. -<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 11:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | The merchandise section is not formatted correctly - particularly the seventh point. The third point being mentioned about cheetos (also uncle chips as far as I remember) and stuff requires a [http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/life/2004/01/12/stories/2004011200180200.htm source]. Also, the fact about the manga distribution taking place through mainly online portals like Amazon should be mentioned. Thanks. -<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 11:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Done. If it needs more work, just let me know.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 11:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | :Done. If it needs more work, just let me know.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 11:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::Is it necessary to note that these books are imported from European and American countries?? → [[User talk: | ::Is it necessary to note that these books are imported from European and American countries?? → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 3:45 <small>PM</small>, July 21, 2015 (IST) 10:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Pokémon of the Day == | == Pokémon of the Day == | ||
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== Considering the source reliable! == | == Considering the source reliable! == | ||
Can you please see [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk: | Can you please see [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:SuperPikaPool13#Pok.C3.A9mon_in_Bangladesh this] discussion and consider the source reliable? [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 14:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Also it would be better if you reply there only. [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 14:08, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | :Also it would be better if you reply there only. [[User:Yash Sen|Yash]] [[User Talk:Yash Sen|Sen]] 14:08, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
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* In Pokemon movies section of Cartoon Network, change <code>Cartoon Network began airing the episodes of Pokémon Chronicles on June 11, 2009.</code> to <code>Cartoon Network began airing Pokémon Chronicles from June 11, 2009.</code>. | * In Pokemon movies section of Cartoon Network, change <code>Cartoon Network began airing the episodes of Pokémon Chronicles on June 11, 2009.</code> to <code>Cartoon Network began airing Pokémon Chronicles from June 11, 2009.</code>. | ||
* Move <code>The manga is available through online stores such as Amazon.</code> from the merchandise section to the manga section. | * Move <code>The manga is available through online stores such as Amazon.</code> from the merchandise section to the manga section. | ||
That's all for now, but more info will have to be added next saturday when M02 airs. → [[User talk: | That's all for now, but more info will have to be added next saturday when M02 airs. → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 12:03, 16 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC) | :Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
::Actually I had forgotten one. | ::Actually I had forgotten one. | ||
::*In the end of the XY series paragraph, add <code>From the mid of the season, Hungama aired the episodes a a part of a block named ''Pokemon Full On''.</code>. | ::*In the end of the XY series paragraph, add <code>From the mid of the season, Hungama aired the episodes a a part of a block named ''Pokemon Full On''.</code>. | ||
::Thanks!!! → [[User talk: | ::Thanks!!! → [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|<span style="color:#000;">SuperPikaPool13</span>]] 15:58, 16 August 2015 (UTC) | ||