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:It also says that "Base stats make the difference between the stats of a Pokémon that has seen many battles and an identical Pokémon that has not been trained. Your Pokémon can earn base points to increase its base stats through battling other Pokémon, playing at Isle Evelup, and being given special items." which are what EVs are. What is referred to here as "base stats" is listed as "Species Strengths" in that glossary. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC) | :It also says that "Base stats make the difference between the stats of a Pokémon that has seen many battles and an identical Pokémon that has not been trained. Your Pokémon can earn base points to increase its base stats through battling other Pokémon, playing at Isle Evelup, and being given special items." which are what EVs are. What is referred to here as "base stats" is listed as "Species Strengths" in that glossary. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
:: Hang on, if I'm reading the glossary more carefully and it seems that EVs are officially "base points" and the additional stat points you get from EVs are "base stats". ie at level 100 4 base points = 1 base stat. That's different to how I initially read it but that information should still be reflected here and on the EV page and currently it's not (the effort value page does interchange "effort points" with "EVs" a lot - is that some sort of compromise?). It's quite confusing given that they changed (or clarified?) what "base stat" means in gen 8, and even more confusing because it's out of kilter with the fan terminology.[[User:Jmvb|JMVB - very sporadic editor since 2008]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 00:18, 17 December 2020 (UTC) | :: Hang on, if I'm reading the glossary more carefully and it seems that EVs are officially "base points" and the additional stat points you get from EVs are "base stats". ie at level 100 4 base points = 1 base stat. That's different to how I initially read it but that information should still be reflected here and on the EV page and currently it's not (the effort value page does interchange "effort points" with "EVs" a lot - is that some sort of compromise?). It's quite confusing given that they changed (or clarified?) what "base stat" means in gen 8, and even more confusing because it's out of kilter with the fan terminology.[[User:Jmvb|JMVB - very sporadic editor since 2008]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 00:18, 17 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
== Moving Base stats, Effort values, Individual values == | |||
As was alluded to in the previous [[Bulbapedia:Messages from the Editor#March 4|Message from the Editor]], we are working on updating several mentions across the encyclopedia to better encapsulate current series progression. The next object on the ajenda concerns the terminology around the inner mechanics of a Pokémons stat calculation and will see us updating the following terms across the wiki: | |||
1) Base Stats ➜ '''Species Strengths''' | |||
2) Individual Values (IVs) ➜ '''Individual Strengths''' | |||
3) Effort Values (EVs) / Effort Points ➜ '''Base Points''' | |||
4) '''Base Stats''' reintroduced as a term, referring to the additional stats gained from Base Points (1 base stat = result from 4 base points). | |||
As these terms concern inner mechanics of the games, their mentions are rare and generally limited to item descriptions (such as the vitamins) or in Trainer tips boards. While early mentions do occasionally use the current page names, guide books as well as the official website glossary has been consistant in using these terms since approximately generation 5. As far as execution of this move is concerned, the idea is to first move all relevant terminology away from "Base stats" before reintorducing this term to refer to its official mention. As such this move will take place in a two phased approach where we first focus on introducing '''species strengths''' and '''Individual strengths''' before turning our attention to '''base points''' and the reintroduction of '''base stats'''. The purpose of this discussion is to outline the proposed move process, and to give the community an oppertunity to bring forth any additional considerations that might not have yet been accounted for, as well as a forum to bring forth any concerns. '''[[User:4iamking|<span style="font-family:noteworthy;color:#FF1493">4iam</span><span style="font-family:papyrus;color:#8A2BE2">king</span>]]''' 01:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC) | |||