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::::Fortunately, the manual of style also says this at the top, which gives us a bit more freedom to follow actual usage rather than the exact rules: "Note, however, that this document is not updated frequently; survey prevailing conventions as well as reading these guidelines." --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 13:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Fortunately, the manual of style also says this at the top, which gives us a bit more freedom to follow actual usage rather than the exact rules: "Note, however, that this document is not updated frequently; survey prevailing conventions as well as reading these guidelines." --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 13:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::The manual of style's disambiguation section starts off with ''"When two subjects would have the same article title, ..."'' so I don't think it's saying ''all'' game articles need to be dabtagged. (Reading the second paragraph, it seems that only Pokémon and moves currently explicitly ''require'' a dabtag per the manual of style.) I don't think there's any conflict with the proposed moves of, say, Calem or Elio. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::The manual of style's disambiguation section starts off with ''"When two subjects would have the same article title, ..."'' so I don't think it's saying ''all'' game articles need to be dabtagged. (Reading the second paragraph, it seems that only Pokémon and moves currently explicitly ''require'' a dabtag per the manual of style.) I don't think there's any conflict with the proposed moves of, say, Calem or Elio. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::If you're saying that, I wonder if there's a bit of ambiguity in this part:
::::::''"In some cases, a disambiguating term is used for all pages of the same type, such as Pokémon and moves. Common disambiguations have templates to make linking them easier. A sample of these follows: [...] '''game''' An article for a game, or a character from a game, for example, [[Silver (game)]]. Short link: {{Template|game}}"''
::::::Arguably there are two different ways to see this:
::::::* "A sample of these follows" is located in the same paragraph as "In some cases, a disambiguating term is used for all pages of the same type," so this appears to be the section explicitly saying that all Pokémon species should have (Pokémon), all moves should have (move), all types should have (type), and all TCG stuff should have (TCG). This section also uses exactly the same wording to claim that all games and game characters should have (game) even though that is not something we really do.
::::::* Or alternatively, we could try to make the point that "A sample of these follows" is just about "Common disambiguations have templates" so this is simply a list of link templates with no ruling about using them or not.
::::::At the very least, if we rename [[Silver (game)]] to Silver (character), then the manual of style would need to be edited because it uses Silver (game) as an example of a character with (game). Not to mention the general idea of removing (game) from all characters, which if implemented would affect the manual of style as well. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 21:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)