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::It's true that Starmie didn't "lose", but both Trainers acknowledged that Starmie was at a disadvantage. I also rewatched the episode (in both Japanese and English) and all Staryu did when it jumped into the pool was negate the usage of Stun Spore and Sleep Powder, not fully heal itself. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC) | ::It's true that Starmie didn't "lose", but both Trainers acknowledged that Starmie was at a disadvantage. I also rewatched the episode (in both Japanese and English) and all Staryu did when it jumped into the pool was negate the usage of Stun Spore and Sleep Powder, not fully heal itself. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::Never even mentioned Staryu's earlier jump into the pool in the first place, not in this reply at least, and even if I did, we already know via EP021 that Starmie and presumably Staryu are indeed fully capable of actually healing itself when exposed to water (otherwise, Misty's usage of a portable water cannon on Starmie to aid it after James knocked it against a wall in a similar manner to Pidgeotto via a sledgehammer wouldn't have worked at all). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 09:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC) | :::Never even mentioned Staryu's earlier jump into the pool in the first place, not in this reply at least, and even if I did, we already know via EP021 that Starmie and presumably Staryu are indeed fully capable of actually healing itself when exposed to water (otherwise, Misty's usage of a portable water cannon on Starmie to aid it after James knocked it against a wall in a similar manner to Pidgeotto via a sledgehammer wouldn't have worked at all). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 09:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::I think the information presented in the episode itself (which is that both Trainers acknowledged that Starmie was in a disadvantageous situation) is more important than trying to theorize ways in which Misty could have still possibly won. I also don't think citing later episodes is a great counterpoint, given that there are many instances of Pokémon only displaying a certain skill when it's convenient for the progression of an episode (the infamous Thunder Armor comes to mind). There's also stuff like Ash's Pikachu suddenly gaining Static as an Ability starting with AG (due to the introduction of Abilities in Gen 3), only for it to be completely forgotten after BW. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 11:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC) | |||