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 :Fine, I'll grant you that much regarding your points, and that your wording was better. Though to be fair, Caterpie was also in extremely low health at that time as well thanks to its earlier near-death against Pidgeotto and... well, you know the rest of that battle and how it turned out for everyone involved (and it was also fairly explicit that it was weak even before the fight against Pidgeotto, much less Team Rocket. After Ash's attempt at capturing Pidgeotto outright without weakening it first just resulted in it escaping easily, Misty reminded him that he needed to battle it first, and also specifically stated the only reason Caterpie got easily captured without a fight was because it was already weak beforehand). I might be fanatically loyal to Misty, I'll admit that much, but I still would have avoided using "advantage" even if I had the exact opposite emotional views of Misty (and in fact, back when I was still on Bulbagarden and the discussion popped up whether Ash or Misty would have won, I gave pretty firm arguments why it wasn't necessarily confirmed Ash was going to win, and made it very clear that my being a Misty fan had absolutely nothing to do with my rationale, and that if anything my rationale actually was tied far more to something that happened with Ash than it ever did with Misty and then cited that particular battle. Granted, PDL pretty much mocked my argument when I cited that battle, but still...). Yes, it's true that Starmie was explicitly low on health, but it's also true that it was still close enough to the water's edge that it merely needed to hop back in and regenerate, though it might need a bit more effort to pull it off. And I mostly had to mention that stuff repeatedly in case someone DID try to accuse me of being biased towards Misty due to past experiences on Serebii, Pokecommunity, and BMGf where they did repeatedly do that. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 02:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 ::A bit late on this one to reply (eh, still less than 6 months), but your talk page comment for Misty's Starmie (which I replied to, but I figured it would be appropriate to go into a bit more detail here) got me to rewatch EP007 in both Japanese and English, and I believe you misremembered Staryu's situation. What Staryu was actually doing when it dived into the water was negating the usage of Stun Spore and Sleep Powder (kind of similar to Natural Cure, but with water rather than switching out), not healing itself, so the argument that Starmie could still regenerate itself in the water doesn't really hold up. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
-:::I didn't actually mention Staryu at all in that argument (my main focus was Starmie, and if anything I didn't even CONSIDER Staryu's earlier dive into the water to alleviate itself of Stun Spore.), and for the record, Starmie's core wasn't even damaged (ie, it didn't crack. The blinking light simply meant it was low on health), which is the only way it won't be able to heal at all barring maybe a Pokemon Center. And even if we were to somehow use that rationale for how it doesn't hold up, Bye Bye Butterfree made it very explicit that Starmie (and presumably Staryu) most certainly can heal itself when exposed to water, at least as long as its core was intact (there was a scene during Ash, Misty and Brock's confrontation with Team Rocket over the poached Butterfree where James used a sledgehammer on Starmie, landed a direct hit on it and sent it flying into a wall, causing it to slump down in a similar manner to its situation in Waterflowers of Cerulean City, then Misty grabbed a water cannon (presumably from within Team Rocket's hideout) and proceeded to spray a torrent on it, and then it came right back to full strength). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 09:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
+:::I didn't actually mention Staryu at all in that argument (my main focus was Starmie, and if anything I didn't even CONSIDER Staryu's earlier dive into the water to alleviate itself of Stun Spore.), and for the record, Starmie's core wasn't even damaged (ie, it didn't crack. The blinking light simply meant it was low on health), which is the only way it won't be able to heal at all barring maybe a Pokemon Center. And even if we were to somehow use that rationale for how it doesn't hold up, Bye Bye Butterfree made it very explicit that Starmie (and presumably Staryu) most certainly can heal itself (and by that, I specifically mean heal its HP back upwards, not simply negating a status effect) when exposed to water, at least as long as its core was intact (there was a scene during Ash, Misty and Brock's confrontation with Team Rocket over the poached Butterfree where James used a sledgehammer on Starmie, landed a direct hit on it and sent it flying into a wall, causing it to slump down in a similar manner to its situation in Waterflowers of Cerulean City, then Misty grabbed a water cannon (presumably from within Team Rocket's hideout) and proceeded to spray a torrent on it, and then it came right back to full strength). And that's not even getting into how Starmie's Pokedex entries back then make it explicit that it can regenerate as long as its core remains intact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 09:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 == Pokémon ==
 When writing "Pokémon" or "Poké", don't forget to write the "e" as "é". Also, the word "Trainer" is capitalized. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 00:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)