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==Interaction with {{a|Simple}} and {{a|Contrary}}==
==Interaction with {{a|Simple}} and {{a|Contrary}}==
Stat boosts from [[Z-Move]]s are usually unaffected by [[Simple (Ability)|Simple]] and {{a|Contrary}}, but that's because stat-boosting Z-Moves are not moves in their own right, but Z-Power Effects being added on to a [[status move]]'s effect. {{m|Clangorous Soulblaze}} and {{m|Extreme Evoboost}} are exceptions, being treated as actual moves rather than mere modifiers; does that mean Clangorous Soulblaze is affected by Simple and Contrary? (Extreme Evoboost is affected by Simple and Contrary, according to [[Talk:Extreme Evoboost (move)|its talk page]].) --Luigifan 16:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Stat boosts from [[Z-Move]]s are usually unaffected by [[Simple (Ability)|Simple]] and {{a|Contrary}}, but that's because stat-boosting Z-Moves are not moves in their own right, but Z-Power Effects being added on to a [[status move]]'s effect. {{m|Clangorous Soulblaze}} and {{m|Extreme Evoboost}} are exceptions, being treated as actual moves rather than mere modifiers; does that mean Clangorous Soulblaze is affected by Simple and Contrary? (Extreme Evoboost is affected by Simple and Contrary, according to [[Talk:Extreme Evoboost (move)|its talk page]].) --Luigifan 16:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
== Does Throat Chop prevent the execution of Clangorous Soulblaze? ==
From what I can tell, Z-moves bypass conditions that would ordinarily prevent moves of their category and/or class from being selected and/or executed, such as {{m|Taunt}} and {{m|Heal Block}}, allowing the move to be used regardless. I'm curious to know whether this extends to {{m|Throat Chop}} being unable to prevent Clangorous Soulblaze from being executed. (I'm currently designing a sound-based Z-move of my own for one of my fakemon, so I need to know whether the general principle of Z-moves bypassing specific execution blocks such as Throat Chop extends to non-status Z-moves or not.) --Luigifan 21:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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