Talk:Serena (anime): Difference between revisions

:::::::::::::No, I use the Japanese names because that's what I'm most familiar with. I watched the entire show in Japanese and don't watch the English dub, so I'm sorry, I cannot conform to the way you refer to the characters unless I'm editing an article. Fortunately we're on Bulbapedia and it can easily be looked up.

:::::::::::::Secondly, yes, she is clearly jealous in that scene unless you really want to grasp straws and deny it. There's no reason why Fleura kissing Satoshi would "titillate" Kasumi (nor does her facial expression indicate so) and there's also no reason for her to be "grossed out" by that kiss, she likes romantic things and if she was simply just shocked that someone kissed Satoshi, she wouldn't look so angry nor would be be blushing profusely. There's also the context of the scene, a good chunk of the movie has Fleura teasing Kasumi about being Satoshi's girlfriend or liking him. It's obvious what the intentions were coupled with the visuals and dialogue. Again, anime is a visual medium, she doesn't need to have internal monologues screaming "Oh my god, she kissed Satoshi, I'm so jealous!" holding the viewer's hand with exposition, the visuals and context are obvious enough. In comparison to Millefeui teasing Serena, her reactions to the same type of teasing are different but just as valid, Kasumi didn't need to be constantly shy blushing at Satoshi or spilling the spaghetti around him every other episode because that's just not what's in her character, what was shown was enough validation. I have this very strong impression that if one were to replace Kasumi for Serena for those scenes (or possibly any minor fanexaggerated "shippy" scene involving any Pokegirl traveling companions for Serena), these quote-on-quote interpretive details would instantly be validated, which would show strong bias towards that coupling, which I feel doesn't belong here of all places for ''any'' coupling. [[User:Fang-tan|Fang-tan]] ([[User talk:Fang-tan|talk]]) 19:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

I really don't think you're understanding what I was trying to suggest. You have admitted that everything listed on PokeShipping is debatable - but if it can be debated, that means there is some (deniable and not necessarily real) evidence that Misty is infatuated with Ash. You can't outright state that Misty is not infatuated with Ash; it's very possible she isn't, but it's also very possible that she is. So we cannot claim factually that she is infatuated with him, but we also cannot claim factually that she is not. What we can claim factually is that Serena is undeniably infatuated with him, something that cannot be stated for Misty because it is not clear. Allowing for the possibility that Misty is infatuated with Ash is not anymore shippy than stating that Serena is infatuated with Ash. All I'm asking is that you add one extra word in order to stay as factually accurate as possible without removing what could be considered a good trivia point. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)