Talk:List of Pokémon by base stats (Generation VI): Difference between revisions

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→‎Sort by Evolutionary Status?: I didn't even notice one of those comments... How about we just *not* use asterisks; that's not right anyway. ...And new comments /always/ go at the end...
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::::::::::And you didn't outright state that you were, with all certainty, going to undo my work -- even if it was fairly obviously implied. And even if you believe the chances of your being wrong to be either small or non-existent, shouldn't you take the course of action that takes heed of the off (in your opinion) chance of you actually being wrong? Shouldn't you be open to try something out, rather than just stubbornly assuming that the page should not be changed? Just in case? Just to be fair? Because you don't seem to be acting in the interests of the community. You're acting in your own interests; you want the page to remain the way you like it. If you were acting in everyone's interests, you'd have a better reason for not being open to trying something new than "I believe myself and my reasons." [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 00:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::And you didn't outright state that you were, with all certainty, going to undo my work -- even if it was fairly obviously implied. And even if you believe the chances of your being wrong to be either small or non-existent, shouldn't you take the course of action that takes heed of the off (in your opinion) chance of you actually being wrong? Shouldn't you be open to try something out, rather than just stubbornly assuming that the page should not be changed? Just in case? Just to be fair? Because you don't seem to be acting in the interests of the community. You're acting in your own interests; you want the page to remain the way you like it. If you were acting in everyone's interests, you'd have a better reason for not being open to trying something new than "I believe myself and my reasons." [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 00:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


*I think I'm getting a "TL;DR" feeling here.  But in all seriousness, for this page, I don't see a point in adding it.  I think it is pretty obvious in the title of the actual page that listing Pokémon by their stats is it's sole purpose.  Something like this might be better for its own page or something.  Either way, it would be unwise to edit this page in such a way, seeing that it would probably led to "edit wars".  At least until the right folks are convinced or something, I'm not really sure myself. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 00:47, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
{{indent}}I think I'm getting a "TL;DR" feeling here.  But in all seriousness, for this page, I don't see a point in adding it.  I think it is pretty obvious in the title of the actual page that listing Pokémon by their stats is it's sole purpose.  Something like this might be better for its own page or something.  Either way, it would be unwise to edit this page in such a way, seeing that it would probably led to "edit wars".  At least until the right folks are convinced or something, I'm not really sure myself. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 00:47, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


::*Knowledge that an editing war would result is the reason I haven't gone and done it yet. As for the title... Is title really the be-all and end-all of the page's purpose? What if the reason the page is named as such is simply because it's impractical to have a page named "List of Pokemon and their base stats that can be sorted for easy access"? Just because the page is named the way it is, doesn't mean that no other aspect is appropriate for the page. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 01:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:Knowledge that an editing war would result is the reason I haven't gone and done it yet. As for the title... Is title really the be-all and end-all of the page's purpose? What if the reason the page is named as such is simply because it's impractical to have a page named "List of Pokemon and their base stats that can be sorted for easy access"? Just because the page is named the way it is, doesn't mean that no other aspect is appropriate for the page. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 01:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


::Everyone "believes", when you get right down to it. A "better" reason would be one that sways you, UltraX7, but all I can say is that I don't know one. That doesn't at all mean I am or should be wrong, just that we see things differently. That we ''believe'' differently.
::Everyone "believes", when you get right down to it. A "better" reason would be one that sways you, UltraX7, but all I can say is that I don't know one. That doesn't at all mean I am or should be wrong, just that we see things differently. That we ''believe'' differently.
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:::So how come that column gets to stay? I say it doesn't. Obviously this page has no room for non-essential attributes. Why, you said so yourself! Since your one opinion seems to mean so much, let's take it up! {{unsigned|UltraX7}}
:::So how come that column gets to stay? I say it doesn't. Obviously this page has no room for non-essential attributes. Why, you said so yourself! Since your one opinion seems to mean so much, let's take it up! {{unsigned|UltraX7}}


::::* As I said, I don't want to get sucked into this.  I think you are reading too much into all this. And as long as someone disagrees with you, it is safe to leave the page be.  Otherwise, as I said, there will be "edit wars" and you should know that is something to be avoided here.  Anyway, I don't see how the fact that the pages' name means nothing to what I said.  All I said was that as far as sole purposes go, the title answers that question. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 01:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: As I said, I don't want to get sucked into this.  I think you are reading too much into all this. And as long as someone disagrees with you, it is safe to leave the page be.  Otherwise, as I said, there will be "edit wars" and you should know that is something to be avoided here.  Anyway, I don't see how the fact that the pages' name means nothing to what I said.  All I said was that as far as sole purposes go, the title answers that question. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 01:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


:::::*Well I'm not going to suck you in; you don't have to keep responding. The title means nothing because it does not completely describe the page -- it only sums it up. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 01:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::Well I'm not going to suck you in; you don't have to keep responding. The title means nothing because it does not completely describe the page -- it only sums it up. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 01:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::* It still says enough as far as what one expects to see when arriving on it. I'd prefer it if you didn't respond to me specifically if you don't want to suck my in this then. Just continue to discuss this with [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] and their posts, not mine. Sidenote: As the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_base_stats_%28Generation_VI-present%29&action=history summary I put for this post/edit states], "''Trust me, previewing your posts and taking the time to review them before posting saves us all a lot of trouble instead of rushing post after post''".----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 02:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::It's honestly getting a little annoying that you keep harping on me to just "let it happen". That's no argument, and it's never going to sway me. It'd be cool if you just left off that.
:::::::It's honestly getting a little annoying that you keep harping on me to just "let it happen". That's no argument, and it's never going to sway me. It'd be cool if you just left off that.
::::::(Just in case:) If Average stays, that doesn't mean Evolutionary stage gets a free pass. You're free to argue against Average separately if you want, though. (And I would support it, though somewhat lukewarmly just due to its momentum.)
:::::::(Just in case:) If Average stays, that doesn't mean Evolutionary stage gets a free pass. You're free to argue against Average separately if you want, though. (And I would support it, though somewhat lukewarmly just due to its momentum.)
::::::But I'm reaching a point where I feel this is really going nowhere. I think I'm just gonna wait for other comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::But I'm reaching a point where I feel this is really going nowhere. I think I'm just gonna wait for other comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::: It still says enough as far as what one expects to see when arriving on it. I'd prefer it if you didn't respond to me specifically if you don't want to suck my in this then. Just continue to discuss this with [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] and their posts, not mine. Sidenote: As the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_base_stats_%28Generation_VI-present%29&action=history summary I put for this post/edit states], "''Trust me, previewing your posts and taking the time to review them before posting saves us all a lot of trouble instead of rushing post after post''".----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 02:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)