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::No, it's definitely 6553'''6''' in the fifth generation, not 65535. The b formula also definitely does take a fourth root (actually two square roots), not a third root, despite that there are only three shake checks. This is information gleaned from reading the actual game code; [http://upokecenter.dreamhosters.com/articles/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version-in-depth-guides/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version-catch-rate-formula/ Ultimate Pokémon Center] did the original analysis, and a_magical_me later independently did another full analysis and corrected a couple of mistakes. [http://www.dragonflycave.com/gen5capture.aspx My website's explanation] incorporates magical's corrections. Please don't make edits based on vague common-sense feelings about what seems right when there are known facts at hand. | ::No, it's definitely 6553'''6''' in the fifth generation, not 65535. The b formula also definitely does take a fourth root (actually two square roots), not a third root, despite that there are only three shake checks. This is information gleaned from reading the actual game code; [http://upokecenter.dreamhosters.com/articles/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version-in-depth-guides/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version-catch-rate-formula/ Ultimate Pokémon Center] did the original analysis, and a_magical_me later independently did another full analysis and corrected a couple of mistakes. [http://www.dragonflycave.com/gen5capture.aspx My website's explanation] incorporates magical's corrections. Please don't make edits based on vague common-sense feelings about what seems right when there are known facts at hand. | ||
::Meanwhile, Pokémon, you do realize critical captures that ''succeed'' only show one shake? Are you suggesting it sometimes shows a whole extra shake only if you fail? That sounds quite unlikely, especially since if they ''did'' want to incorporate two shake checks into critical captures, the logical way to do it would be like with regular shake checks, where one happens before the first shake and the second happens just after it. I'm sorry, but unless you can provide something more solid than anecdotal experience, it's more likely that you just mistook a non-critical capture for a critical, one way or another. I've seen people swear they personally saw completely impossible things on their Pokémon games hundreds of times before, so I'm inclined to take "This happened to me once" stories with a grain of salt - nothing against you personally, but human perception and memory can be pretty flawed. [[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] ([[User talk:Dragonfree|talk]]) 18:34, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | ::Meanwhile, Pokémon, you do realize critical captures that ''succeed'' only show one shake? Are you suggesting it sometimes shows a whole extra shake only if you fail? That sounds quite unlikely, especially since if they ''did'' want to incorporate two shake checks into critical captures, the logical way to do it would be like with regular shake checks, where one happens before the first shake and the second happens just after it. I'm sorry, but unless you can provide something more solid than anecdotal experience, it's more likely that you just mistook a non-critical capture for a critical, one way or another. I've seen people swear they personally saw completely impossible things on their Pokémon games hundreds of times before, so I'm inclined to take "This happened to me once" stories with a grain of salt - nothing against you personally, but human perception and memory can be pretty flawed. [[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] ([[User talk:Dragonfree|talk]]) 18:34, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Sorry, Dragonfree. It's not much of an excuse, but I didn't really know where I could find a reliable reference. | |||
:::@Pokémon: I meant that you didn't point out "other generations" in your edit summary; but in your comments afterwards, you have. Your edit summary said, ''"Seriously, the fraction is so tiny, nobody can read it without grand zooming..."'' The only sense I could make of that comment was that the difference between 65536 and 65535 was very small. But perhaps that's not what you meant. Regardless, it's not really important now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:01, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Just caught a Lugia in red health underwater after using Dive in a Dive Ball. == | == Just caught a Lugia in red health underwater after using Dive in a Dive Ball. == | ||
I just caught Lugia in red health in ORAS so you have to use dive to catch it and it worked first time in a Dive Ball. Does anyone know the chances of this happening? --[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:47, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | I just caught Lugia in red health in ORAS so you have to use dive to catch it and it worked first time in a Dive Ball. Does anyone know the chances of this happening? --[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:47, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | ||