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 :::::::::I am "for real". Would you be so kind as to provide any of those results? Because there are none. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 :::::::::that page you linked clearly states everything on it is made-up as "fakemon" and furthermore, its a bunch of ''horrid'' fake sprites. theres no proof there at all. and finally, if you cant find the results of "Ampharos pokegod" on Google, then you fail at Google, hard. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
+::::::::::The PokéGods page itself says that people were often misled by sprites that weren't intended to mislead. Regardless if they were originally stated to be fake or not (which the original site did not, as this is merely an archival site), many people still believed that some of them were real.
+::::::::::You can keep claiming that it's my fault, but if you can't provide sources, then it shouldn't be on the page. Provide at least ''one'' rather than blame me. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
+{{indent}}You didn't provide sources when we asked you to before, but I guess two wrongs don't make a right, and since I'm home from work now, I'll treat you to a list of PokeGod pages referencing Ampharos (or Denryu).
+*[http://maxpages.com/pokemasterda/Pokedex_With_The_Pictures Last one on this page.]
+*[http://www.angelfire.com/il/togepi/ Do a ctrl+F for "Denryu," unless you actually ''want'' to kill your eyes reading this site.]
+*[http://www.freewebs.com/the_pokegods/morepokegodinfo.htm Included on the list here.]
+There's more, but you asked only for one, so this should already be more than enough.  But here's a little bonus, on that site you linked before... [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/factory/page5.html ohay, now what is that last one on the page here??] <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span>
+:Smart girl. You actually thought to search for its Japanese name. However, I'll point out why none of these sites are valid examples.
+#Yes, "Denryu" is mentioned, but Denryu itself was never rumored in the form of a code. You'll note that Denryu is mentioned on many sites, the majority of which were actually documenting the release of Gold and Silver. Just because some people stuck to old habits and used the term "PokéGod" doesn't mean that's what they necessarily meant.
+#One of the latter-day lists which includes several Pokemon (note, ''Pokémon'', not PokéGods) created by the Pokemon Factory. (See number 4)
+#A site last updated near 2005, over five years ''after'' the PokéGod phenomenon. Latter-day references don't count.
+#The Pokémon Factory specialized in making fake Pokémon, ''not'' PokéGods. They never intended to fool anyone, and in fact made it a part of their mission statement then and now that they were for fun or gags.
+As you can see, none of those sites are valid references. You're welcome to provide more if you like, but you obviously don't understand the mentality or zeitgeist of the time to properly speak for it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+::'''''You referenced Pokemon Factory for Feliflame.'''''  Please explain explain to my why your hypocrisy is valid. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 04:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+:::It's not hypocrisy. It's a test. And MAGNEDETH failed. So did you. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+::::how the hell did i fail? Ume has all the details right there, you just said two different things, opposite of each other! (granted, this isnt the first time). -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+:::::I never said anything hypocritical or opposite of myself. Umeko has provided no details, at least nothing of valid reference. And you failed by showing your prejudice. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+::::::at '''16:27 UTC''' yesterday, you added '''Feliflame''' to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9Gods&diff=prev&oldid=988533 the PokeGods page].
+::::::at '''17:52 UTC''' yesterday, you referenced Pokemon Factory for '''Feliflame''' using it as proof that it is a PokeGod.
+::::::at '''04:02 UTC''' today you said '''AND I QUOTE''':
+:::::::"The Pokémon Factory specialized in making fake Pokémon, ''not'' PokéGods. They never intended to fool anyone, and in fact made it a part of their mission statement then and now that they were for fun or gags."
+::::::so, i want to know right now, if that isnt hypocrisy, what is it? because it really really looks like hypocrisy. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::First of all, I'd like to know why any of you are bothering with this? Do you ''love'' your sysop-positions so much that you have to micro-manage and argue? This whole discussion, let alone me, is not a big deal.
+:::::::Second of all, if you were paying attention you would have read where I said that that was a test. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
+::::::::it was only a test? OOOHHHH! HAHAHAHA!! i see, this is all a hilarious misunderstanding. well, now that youve tested me, id like to test you. im going to give you a block, to make sure my "sysop-position" is still intact. you see, i wasted so much time arguing with you, i forgot what i was doing. i have a bad memory and i like it when people help me out with remembering things. so im going to give you a month, (or maybe more, hmm, well if my powers have been lost in the commotion it wont make a difference) and if they DO still work, id like you to come back and tell me. if so, then we can put it all behind us, and get back to work, like a big happy community again, ok? great. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)