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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Please leave your message by creating a new section below. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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:Thanks for catching that. That was a misuse of the <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> template. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks for catching that. That was a misuse of the <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> template. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::Works for me. Thank you. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::Works for me. Thank you. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
== Eon duo trivia ==
Last week, why did you remove the trivia about height in a legendary duo [[Eon duo|page]]? [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 02:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:As I'm sure you read in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eon_duo&diff=2048007&oldid=2047902 my edit summary], it's ridiculous to point out that one is taller and one is not. It's obvious that whichever one isn't taller is going to be the shortest, and vice versa. I don't like tallest/shortest/heaviest/lightest trivia at all, but it's particularly egregious with duos, for which you're pointing out literally every member if you include those trivia. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
::You know what to do, like the comment that someone tells you to stop removing trivia, stop removing trivia about height, that's because the Eon duo's heights are true and heights can be found in [[List of Pokémon by height|this page]], doesn't mean you can remove it, you need to know the Pokémon's height. [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 03:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Just because something is true does not make it worthwhile. If we listed every fact that was true in Pokémon, nobody would be able to find anything useful or interesting because of all the junk cluttering up the pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
::::In addition, if we needed to know the height of the Pokémon, it would not belong in the trivia.  Trivia is for significant, intentional, or unusual facts.  It could belong in the base of the article, but it should not be in the trivia, unless there is something about it that could be notable.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
== Sylveon's highest stat ==
Why did you undo my edit, the Fairy type's highest stat is Special Defense and Sylveon has a trait among Fairy-type Pokémon like Flabébé so its highest stat is Special Defense along with Umbreon. [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 03:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
:You clearly didn't read [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eeveelution&curid=4597&diff=2053707&oldid=2053704 my edit summary]. If you still have a question ''after'' you've read it, come back and ask me ''that'' question, but don't come here asking why I made an edit when I explained very clearly why I did it in the edit summary. This is the second time you've done this in as many days (see the above section), and frankly, it's annoying to have to explain things twice. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
::Please stop acting like staff, and I did read your summary, you just need to act like a normal user and be nice to me, so like the welcome template, you need to be nice to everyone, thank you! [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 05:22, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Perhaps I was a little harsh with you, but I hope you can see the frustration when you ask a question that is answered by something I have ''already'' said and that you ''already'' read. (I still don't see how I'm "acting like staff," but whatever{{tt|...|and I do think it's nice to point out when someone's being annoying on a fairly innocuous place such as the Internet so they have a chance to fix it before they get out into the real world where there are actual consequences for it, but that's irrelevant to the conversation, so oh well}})
:::To answer your original question, your edit made no logical sense at all. Even though Umbreon and Sylveon both have a Special Defense of 130, somehow Sylveon is "unlike" Umbreon because its Special Defense is "higher" than Umbreon's??? 130 and 130 are the same thing — neither is higher because they're the ''same'', and "unlike" is exactly the opposite of the situation, because ''they're the same''. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:57, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
::::Yes, Sylveon and Umbreon's highest stats are the same, so that's true. [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 07:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
== Evolution ==
I agree with your edit, but just to answer the question you posed, it was split up that way because one paragraph explained an uncommon method, and the next ones were added to note completely unique methods (so Pancham's doesn't fit there anyway, since it's one of the party composition ones). Also, there was just the ones extra paragraph for a while, until someone decided to add another one for Generation VI.
Not that saying this is particularly useful, but I hate to leave a question unanswered. -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|<sub>talk</sub>]] 07:03, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
== Malva/Looker ==
There is evidence in the dialogue that Looker is forcing Malva to help him:
Malva in Lysandre Labs:
"Oh. And one last thing... Tell that partner of yours... Tell that infuriating man... Yes, tell him I fulfilled my end of the bargain. And he should keep in mind what will happen to him if he doesn't do the same. Good day."
Keeping in mind that she is not arrested by Looker at the end of the chapter, he must have had something on her that is prison-worthy, yet a deal was struck. So in reality, she was blackmailed into giving the player elevator access, in return for not being captured by Looker.
Of course, this view entirely depends on your definition of blackmail, however, she was definitely forced by Looker into doing something she resented - quite the definition of blackmail, I believe.
[[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 22:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:I don't necessarily get that at all. The fact that he is "infuriating" and they have a "bargain" doesn't necessarily mean there was any forcing, blackmail, or prison-worthiness at all. It just means she's working with him when she'd rather not be. Personally, I read it more as she dislikes Xerosic and would rather cooperate with her enemies to take him down than let him go free. Either way, it's ambiguous, so we shouldn't be stating anything solid on the matter at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:38, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well on Malva's own page, it is stated that she is being blackmailed by Looker - maybe you need to change that as well. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 23:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Done. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
By the way, I don't think that she hates Xerosic more than the player, every time the player challenges her in the Elite Four, she bluntly points out her hate. As well as in the Hotel Richissime. As a Team Flare Admin (and due to the Pyroars, the most likely candidate for Lysandre's lover), I would feel that she still has a duty to Team Flare, and being a grass does not seem like her at all. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 13:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:That's your interpretation. It's your right to have it, but since it is just an interpretation, it shouldn't be on our mainspace pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
== Bad Formatting ==
There has been issues every since someone messed with the abuse Filters. I know a few days ago I tried editing something, and it said abuse filter 2. I tried to get the incident rectified by a staff member (I forget who) but was unable to write on their talk page because of the same filter. Every since a staff member fiddled with those filters, this kind of thing has been happening. I also got a 404 error when I tried to submit this. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:19, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:I believe I can answer this. According to the Abuse Filter log, nothing has triggered the anti-vandal 2 filter since the 12th. As for the bad formatting, if the content being edited contains a <nowiki><br></nowiki> it will trigger the bad formatting filter. This is explained further in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/suggestions-ideas-problems-39604/index168.html#post5083258 forum post by Kogoro]. If you experience any more issues, bad filter related or otherwise, please let a member of {{bp|Staff}} know instead of a regular user. Thanks. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
::Oops, Sorry! I was trying to answer the question he had asked in a edit summary. Some circumstantial evidence I saw led me to believe some coding bugs developed after the filters were changed. I am not the most tech savey guy on the wiki, but I know it doesn't take much to make a wiki break. From my POV I saw the filters were being changed around right when I started getting anti-abuse filter 2 errors. It just kind of fell together and I pieced it together wrong, my bad. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:10, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
== Pokémon food ==
No problem, I don't edit that often so I'm not used to customs. My views about Pokémon and what they eat could stem from the fact that I don't watch the anime at all, so I have no idea how they're portrayed there, and how it's changed over the years. All I know about how Pokémon behave is what their Pokédex entries say, and I firmly believe that how Pokémon are portrayed in the anime is a completely different story to how they're portrayed in the games (after all, they are different canons). But yes, I do agree that ultimately it is less prevalent today, despite the fact that it is still referenced even up to Gen VI Pokémon (Scatterbug), but I have noticed that modern entries tend to say more of "This Pokémon dances around lolz" rather than (Kabutops for example) "It slices its prey with its sharp sickles and drinks the body fluids." [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] ([[User talk:Chaos Rush|talk]]) 20:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
== Latin-based ==
I hadn't seen that edit summary on Noibat's page, but thanks for letting me know. Looking it up though, now I have no doubt that English should be considered a "European language" (which is what I'm used to using to group it with French, German, Italian and Spanish anyway). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:07, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
:Sounds good. I haven't actually seen anyone use the argument (on Bulbapedia, at least) that it wouldn't count because it's not Continental, but I did want to nip the possibility in the bud. Moot point by now anyway, though. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
== Regarding Regice ==
My contribution alludes to Regice's apparent ability to control air pressure around itself, which is a completely valid assumption. Either that or it's a miss in the game itself, since it is physically impossible for air to stay gaseous at normal air pressure and that low a temperature. (Yes, this is not the real world, but just as you can assume that the sun in Pokéverse emits light through nuclear fusion, you could at least bring up the notion of similar natural laws.) I don't see how that does not belong in the trivia section - even on that same page, there are trivia entries that lack any real factual value and are generally uninteresting. Otherwise we could just add other similar and just as obvious facts, like: "Regice is the only golem in the trio that is not Rock- or Steel-type."
[[User:HerrKrask|HerrKrask]] ([[User talk:HerrKrask|talk]]) 12:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC) HerrKrask
:You say it's "a completely valid assumption," but that's just it — it's an '''assumption'''. It doesn't belong on a ''fact''-based wiki. Other than that, I agree with you that most of our trivia entries are shallow, boring and not useful. It's just that getting rid of them is an uphill battle, and most of the time I only have the energy to argue against trivia that there's already a consensus against, such as (in this case) trivia applying the laws of science to the world of Pokémon, some of which has already been repeatedly removed from {{p|Wailord}}'s page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
== Reminder ==
This is a reminder that your interaction ban with Relicant is still active.  This means your revert on the Steel page is unacceptable. As you've been blocked for this before, this will be your only warning.  Any further interaction will result in a block.  Thank you. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 15:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:OK. I didn't even pay attention to who made that edit; it was just outright wrong, so I reverted it without checking. I'll be more attentive in the future. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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