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::Ok, now, just undo the revocation for my own userspace only, just allow me to edit my own userspace. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 04:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC) | ::Ok, now, just undo the revocation for my own userspace only, just allow me to edit my own userspace. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 04:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::That's not possible. You're either locked out of the entire userspace, or you can edit the entire userspace. Since we're unable to trust you to have userspace privileges, they will remain revoked until {{bp|Editorial Board|we}} feel you're going to respect the rules. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 17:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC) | :::That's not possible. You're either locked out of the entire userspace, or you can edit the entire userspace. Since we're unable to trust you to have userspace privileges, they will remain revoked until {{bp|Editorial Board|we}} feel you're going to respect the rules. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 17:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::I agree I am going to respect the rules, will not edit anyone else's userspace [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Again, that's not how it works. You were informed of the policy, you were trusted to follow it, and you breached that trust by continuing to violate the policy. Now you have to actually ''earn that trust back'' before we will restore your userspace privileges. Not by saying you will follow the rules, but by actually following the rules and editing solely to help improve Bulbapedia. Your userspace privileges will not be restored, and continuing to ask for your privileges back will only further delay them being restored. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 16:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::I am following the rules, by editing in the mainspace, by fixing errors, now i need it back, not indefinite. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I will just edit some pages, then get it back, once, i consistently follow the rules. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 09:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Made a lot of mainspace edits, is this editing enough to get it back? [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 13:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::As I told you before, your userspace privileges will be restored when the Editorial Board feels you have earned them back, and asking for them to be restored will not result in them being restored. Do not ask about it again, it will simply happen when it happens. Further comments to this section will not be considered, as the matter is closed. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
I want the editorial board to track my progress, I will get it back once the progress bar is 100%, and will focus on editing game articles, best edit i did is all caps problem with [[Poké Transfer]].[[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 09:55, 27 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Why did you protect [[Tom Wayland]]?== | |||
I didn't see any edit wars or anything. Was it because of {{BMGf|174779|controversy over recent allegations}}? [[User:Technickal|Technickal]] ([[User talk:Technickal|talk]]) 18:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I believe the reason for the protection is pretty obvious. It's not something we care to comment on. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 00:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Area Pages for Pokémon Shuffle == | |||
Has a decision been made on the page split project for [[Pokémon Shuffle]]? It's been over a month since the project was initially completed, pending other additions for new updates on the proposed pages, and I'm getting ready to prep an Escalation Battles page to add to that proposal as there is a significant amount of data pulled on the various stages (I think 21 in total) available on the Darkrai edition of the event; Cresselia also had a lot that I can go back and acquire, as well. | |||
Turns out the new data puller is also getting all of the disruption data and Pokémon who default on the stage as well if support slots are empty, so each area page can now be expanded over time to have individual stage data under the summarized stage info, resulting in very detailed pages, so that will keep me busy provided it's approved. Apparently the updates in the single (huge!) initial report on that pastebin date back to 1.1.5 or something like that, so there might still be something (like Mew) missing; I'll see about that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:A decision has not been made yet. I will inform you when we have a decision finalized. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 02:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Alrighty, I am eagerly awaiting this either way. Been waiting to do other updates based on the pending decision. (Just so they don't have to all be redone later.) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Template:Ytu == | |||
It's currently broken. | |||
<code><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.youtube.com/user/{{{1|Bulbagarden}}} {{{2|{{{1|Bulbagarden}}}'s YouTube channel}}}]</span></code> | |||
Fix: <code><span class="plainlinks">[https://www.youtube.com/{{{1|channel/UC5ukgiFPQ2N1FM_4eYZxiCg}}} {{{2|{{{1|Bulbagarden}}}'s YouTube channel}}}]</span></code> | |||
This issue has priority because [[Template:YouTubeVid]] uses [[Template:Ytu]] and is still in use. A recent example of the issues this causes: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I&oldid=2326038 here] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I&oldid=2326040 here]. Links to Google+ YouTube channel IDs are always broken but old YouTube channel IDs are fine, though. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 22:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:'''UPDATE:''' Further patched it to use HTTPS URLs (which reminds me [[Template talk:Wp#HTTPS|of this]]; it's 2015 and Wikipedia now strictly uses HTTPS). [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 22:47, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Both YouTube templates are now updated to use the existing 2 parameter for the link needed, whether it be user or channel, and the new '''name''' parameter to allow the link text to be a proper name. I have also updated the wp prefix on the interwiki table to use https. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks. I still think that the extra work we put on ourselves is not worth it because YouTube videos are direct sources in themselves, and they already link to the author properly. | |||
:::And [[Template:YouTubeVid]] is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:YouTubeVid&oldid=1561295 not really broken]. [[Template:YouTubeEmbed]] thus seems unnecessary, especially when [https://web.archive.org/web/20150524142955/https://www.mediawikiwidgets.org/YouTube the YouTube widget it uses] is far more limited than [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo the EmbedVideo extension] used by "YouTubeVid". I've been playing around with this {{u|SatoMew2/YouTubeVid|here}} and {{ut|SatoMew2/YouTubeVid|here}}. | |||
:::Also, [[Template:Ytu]] is now deprecated and unused so it should be deleted. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 06:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::The YouTube user links are still broken. For Google+ channels, it should be <code>youtube.com/channel/<channellink></code>, and for older accounts (with actual names in the URLs) it should be <code>youtube.com/user/<username></code>. Currently, it's using <code>youtube.com/<username></code>, which usually works for older accounts (not sure if it fails for some of them though), but does not work for Google+ channels. [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:YouTubeVid&diff=55824&oldid=52526 Here] is the fix I did on Bulbanews, if you're interested in implementing it that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Well, you could just add "channel/" yourself but, since you mentioned this, then don't forget that there is a third channel ID URL type, <code>youtube.com/c/<anything></code>. The best solution is to drop the pointless names from the template altogether since they try to solve a problem that doesn't exist. "YouTubeVid" just needs to be fixed and EmbedVideo doesn't have to be replaced with the YouTube widget. [https://i.imgur.com/8UNKH8n.png Here's how my template looks on mobile Bulbapedia, by the way.] Also, there will always be loading issues if a page has too many embedded videos, regardless of template, extension, or widget. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 15:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Here's the code for my template, in case you decide to fix "YouTubeVid", which would be the best call (I don't want my userspace edits to be merged with mainspace): <nowiki><div>{{#ev:youtube|{{{1|1}}}|{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}|{{{5|}}}}}</div></nowiki>. Parameter 1 is the ID, 2 is for the dimensions, 3 is for alignment, 4 is for descriptions, and 5 is for wrapping the video player in a MediaWiki thumbnail box using <code>frame</code> ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo#Attributes_for_Parser_Tags source]). In a way, it's like what we do with images. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 16:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Can you also update the interwiki link table so that [[Template:Jwp]] uses HTTPS as well? [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 16:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Vector skin == | |||
You may or may not be aware but [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector Vector] has become the default MediaWiki skin since 2010. It replaces the old [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:MonoBook MonoBook] that is still used on Bulbapedia. Anyone, particularly non-editors, can use Bulbapedia with Vector ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=Vector try it yourself]), effectively getting rid of the ads without registering an account. | |||
My suggestion to you is that you stop using MonoBook and "Bulbafy" Vector so that it becomes the wiki's new look. Here's how [https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor TCRF] looks with Vector since it became their new look a while back ([https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor?useskin=MonoBook old look for comparison]). | |||
Additionally, please get rid of the right-sidebar ads as they continuously break the wiki's layout, especially templates. The pop-up ads at the bottom (like the ones advertising Bulbanews) are obnoxious too. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 23:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:We have no interest at this time to use Vector as our default skin, we're happy with Monobook. As for issues & complaints regarding adverts, you will need to take that up with <span class="plainlinks">[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/members/1.html Archaic on the BMGf]</span>. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::OK, but could you apply [[Template:Bulba color]] or its variants to the background of both MonoBook and Vector? It will fit with the wiki's identity better. As to the ads, can't you at least enable them for Vector? [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 06:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||