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While things in your sandbox are more lenient against the userspace limits, please try to keep editing to a minimum and use the preview button. Userpage tags aren't for the mainspace or helping anyone really, so just try to keep the editing low. Thanks. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 15:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
While things in your sandbox are more lenient against the userspace limits, please try to keep editing to a minimum and use the preview button. Userpage tags aren't for the mainspace or helping anyone really, so just try to keep the editing low. Thanks. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 15:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Ahhh... Sorry.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 15:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to bug you again, but the [[Bulbapedia:Usertag policy|usertag policy]] states that atleast 5 users need to be using the the tag before it's allowed in the main template space. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 15:29, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Ohh... eheheh... I guess I missed that. Then... ahhh... just rip it off then. Thanks for telling me. And need not worry, I'm not working on anymore tags.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 15:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
== Userspace & Signatures ==
The {{bp|userspace policy}} says no more than three userspace edits per day, not to mention that the site message states "'''edit userpages as little as possible'''". Over 10 edits to your sandbox, for personal content... Sorry, dude, but your userspace privileges have been revoked. We may return them to you after the server conditions are back to normal, as long as you make constructive mainspace edits through that period. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 14:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Aahh... sorry.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 14:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::You know, actually, thanks. You've successfully made me find another thing to do than mess around in my sandbox.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 14:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
== Dream World Article ==
Sorry, I was only asking.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 21:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
== Please do not link to pages about fake Pokémon ==
Sorry to break your bubble, but please do not link to pages about fake Pokémon like Regicrystal. This is a warning and you may get blocked by doing so. Thank for your time. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 05:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for the warning, ha.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 14:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
== Templates ==
Like the one you just made in the Template namespace should have been made in your userspace FIRST. After that you should have asked an admin for approval. We can't have useless templates up like that. I hope you understand. Thanks. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 20:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
== Chill the hell out ==
*1. It's a Japanese game. I see no reason why would they derive the name from Chinese.
*2. A Japanese man will pronounce the word 集合 as "shuugou", not "jihe".
*3. You speak Chinese, so you should know that "j" is just a foolish spelling of PinYin romanization. It's pronounced with a "ch" sound, not "j" sound.
*4. What the hell does Jihead have to do with gathering?
Hope you understood. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:12, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:*1. I know. But it's a historical thing. Kanji are now a part of Japanese language.
*2. But it no longer is. In Japanese Kanji are read only in on- and kun-reading nowadays. Chinese doesn't play any role in Japanese language anymore. Also, no other Pokémon name was derived from Chinese, unless the Pokémon itself was based on some Chinese thing. This doesn't apply to Jihead. Dragons are everywhere. Chinese is no longer the most influential language in the East. New Chinese-derived words in Japanese is a rarity.
*3. Great argument... I happen to know Chinese phonology system and I happen to know that Mandarin Chinese doesn't have voiced consonants at all. It only has unvoiced and aspirated ones. "J" is unvoiced counterpart of aspirated "Q". Neither are pronounced as in English. You know Chinese, so you should know NOT TO ASSOCIATE PinYin spelling with the pronounciation.
*4. That's the most farfetched thing I've ever heard.
*5. What the hell? I DID sign my message. I always do. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Page has been protected because of counter-productive editing. Talk this out instead of reverting it out. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks trom.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 10:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*1. It no longer does. Most Chinese loanwords in Japanese now sound nothing like Chinese. The languages evolve. Japanese has evolved greatly since Middle Ages and so did Chinese. While it's true that on-yomi reading of Kanji evolved from Chinese, they really drifted apart from each other by those years. Also, modern Chinese no longer sounds like Middle Chinese (especially Mandarin, which is one of the most peculiarly evolved dialects. Cantonese or Min-Nan are way more conservative).
*2. Keep in mind that Game Freak are game creators, not linguists. They don't care about such things as ages-long evolution of a Chinese word to Japanese. Nowadays "Shuugou" and "Jihe" sound nothing alike. Game Freak aren't etymology specialist.
*3. What dialect do you speak? Certainly not Mandarin. Mandarin doesn't possess voiced consonants, like English "j".
*4. Really, if GF really wanted to name their Pokemon after gathering, why would they choose the Chinese word? Pokemon names in Japan are mostly derived from Japanese and English. Using a Chinese word sounds really unlikely for them. Also, I still don't understand what makes you thing that Jihead's name would be derived from gathering. Okay, his heads "gathered" into two. But it's still very farfetched and over-complex. GF doesn't choose such far-fetched origins for the Pokemon names.
*5. You have a bad sense of humor.
*6. I happen to be a linguist.
*7. Good that the page is protected. Also, thanks for an edit conflict. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Why not? How much does one cost? (so, I've convinced you, haven't I? That's very good.) --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:05, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I don't speak Chinese, nor am I learning it. I'm just a linguist (not philologist), this means that I don't study particular languages but languages in general. However, I've always been taught that Mandarin Chinese doesn't posess voiced consonants but only aspirated/unaspirated pairs (as opposed to Min-Nan and Shanghainese, which do have voiced consonants). [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_phonology Even Wikipedia agrees with me]. But it probably talks about very literary Chinese, maybe the more colloquial one does voice consonants at times ('cause, you know, languages evolve. And the Mandarin spoken in Singapore may be different than one from PRC). Or, by any chance, maybe the English you hear is not very correct. I believe that pronouncing voiced vowels is a big problem for a native speaker of Mandarin Chinese. I focused on Chinese pronounciation, but it may be possible that the person you asked pronounce English "j" wrong. Well, anyway, sorry for acting as if I knew more about Chinese than a native speaker does. Nonetheless, I still see the "Chinese word for gathering" theory as highly implausible. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
== OMG! ==
Just curios about it, why did you warn MAGNADETH? Do you know he's our Admin + E.B member? Any particular reason regarding the userspace limit warning? <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 14:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just because they're admins doesn't mean they can get away with breaking the rules<small><small> wait yes they can no they cant yes they can shut up</small></small>--[[User:Cold|Cold]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|talk]])</small> 15:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
::What did Magnadeth do? I check his page's history and there were no such recent edits then on what basis you warned him? And Cold, he is an Editorial member and I don't think he'll break a rule. Anyway, Zekrom can you explain your reason please? <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 16:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:::He hasn't edited his userpage since September, so I don't know why you gave him that warning. Also, next time you do actually warn someone going over the 3 limit per day, use <nowiki>{{subst:Userspace warning}}</nowiki>. Thanks. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:09, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Actually, I don't think 444 was warning Mags, I think he was telling Mags to warn TTE, since TTE's talk page is protected--[[User:Cold|Cold]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|talk]])</small> 17:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I see now. But TTE was editing something that would eventually  be mainspaced and it wasn't for his own personal needs. The rules are more lenient on that. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Editorial_Board#Authority|FYI]] the Editorial Board is allowed unlimited use of the userspace for testing purposes; for personal edits we are limited as are the rest of you. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, nice. Oh, no. Nice. Not. Nice. I wanna' be an admin.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 07:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
== Stop. ==
Don't move the pages yet. Also, it's lowercase "d" <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 08:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
== Your DWart thing ==
I'm creating a plan to incorporate all artwork into articles, so your DWart thing, sadly, most likely won't be used. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 08:36, 21 November 2010 (UTC)