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Does she know how to Crush Claw?[[User:Pawel10s|Pawel10s]] 18:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:Why.....? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIeBg-ftxU0    0:23   [[User:Pawel10s|Pawel10s]] 15:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's Night Burst...--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#C11B17">でんのう</font>]] <font color="#347C2C">☢</font>  [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#151B8D">'''Z'''えんし</font>]] 16:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Coloring ==

Is there a reason that this Zoroark is differently colored than the game versions? --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee</span>]] [[Special:Random|<span style="color:#616D7E">§</span>]] [[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">Bwakka</span>]] 00:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:It happens all the time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::Really? Like when? --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee</span>]] [[Special:Random|<span style="color:#616D7E">§</span>]] [[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">Bwakka</span>]] 01:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Saturn's Toxicroak? Its color was different in the anime as compared to its game sprite. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 16:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Also Woobat, Jigglypuff, Metagross, Gliscor, Claydol, Granbull and many others.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">ＤＥＮＮＯＵ</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ＺＥＮＳＨＩ</font>]] 16:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

== Zoroark Dies or Collapses? ==
If Zoroark collapsed, she would've showed signs that she was still alive, but she didn't. Also she had been electrocuted brutally by Kodai and endured all the injuries while trying to make her way to Zorua. -- [[User:Aura24|Aura24]] 16:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

:Plus, on top of that, she didn't show any signs of fainting like other times. Most of the time fainting is instant, she clearly was in agony and fell to the ground but was still conscious. Then a few moments later she went completely limp and nothing could get a reaction out of her. Given the dark tone of the scene, its far more likely she died and did not just faint. [[User:Superx|Superx]] 19:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::Collapsing and not moving does not mean your dead in anyway shape or form. People can collapse, show no signs of moving and can recover. It's not confirmed she died, therefore it can't be added in the article. We only add confirmed information. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 20:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::: You're honestly the only one that I know who thinks she didn't die. The scene sets up a tone that makes it very clear that she died or was going to die. The way the story is set it makes much more sense that she died. [[User:Superx|Superx]] 20:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:::: No but getting upset and crying over a lifeless body however does confirm Zoroark was dead. Otherwise everyone getting upset seems way too dramatic. Besides Zorua nudged Zoroark many times, if it was even just barely alive, it would've reacted in some way. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 20:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Did I say I believe she didn't die? NO I didn't. I said it's not confirmed, which it isn't. And once again, it's not impossible for someone or something to collapse, not respond, and still recover and be ok. How is getting upset over something that just collapsed overemotional? Obviously it's never happened to you, because it's a perfectly normal reaction to panic and get upset. It's not confirmed, and unless it is, it shouldn't be in the article.--[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 21:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::: I'm not saying you can't, but I'm saying from a dramatic perspective, it makes more sense that's she's dead by how the story is set up. She was ether dead or dying, the clear implication is she'd not survived without Celebi's intervention and it was Kodai who killed her. If nothing else, I think it's obvious she was at least dying and Celebi saved her life. Would you be alright if that was put in? [[User:Superx|Superx]] 23:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
: I say she died. Just because it wasn't outright stated doesn't disprove it; after all, Ash died in the first movie, but nobody said it. (So turning to stone doesn't mean you died; it just means you're frozen solid?) --[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Long Live Pokémon! --Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
::As for someone who watched the film twice, I can honestly say that there was no evidence of a death. I believe that Zoroark, just like Celebi from M04, Giratina, and Arceus, was on the brink of death. To Dman dustin's comment, what do you mean that she obviously died because Zorua was crying? He is just a child. What child wouldn't cry if they saw their parent like that? That does not prove that she was dead. And her not responding doesn't prove anything either. She could have been in a comatose state. And to Skulblaka Shurtugal, I believe Ash's death was removed from Bulbapedia. It was removed because there was too much ambiguity around his "death". Just like here. And remember the Celebi from the other movie? It looked even more dead than Zoroark, IMO, but no one ever argued about its death.

::With that said, I don't believe we should state that she died. Just that she was on the brink of death. That's all I have to say on the matter. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

:::With that in mind, I made an edit, tell me if this is acceptible, I tried to leave out if she died or not, but what is completely clear is still in there, that she was ''DYING''. [[User:Superx|Superx]] 00:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Meema ==

Could it be believed that Meema means "Mama" or "Mother"? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 00:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I've actually heard kids call their mothers this before, so I agree. I think that's what is intended. I honestly think it's cute. [[User:Superx|Superx]] 01:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:Where is the mother thing coming from anyway? All that was said is that Zoroark loves Zorua ''like'' a child? Which is very vague... [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 02:46, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::Maa is clearly meaning mother, so at the very least, Zorua thinks Zoroark is his mother. That's good enough for me. [[User:Superx|Superx]] 02:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)