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centered? or just leave them off to the right? <b>[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]</b> 03:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
centered? or just leave them off to the right? <b>[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span></b> 03:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


:Just.. to the left. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:Just.. to the left. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


::left?!?! thats not really an option.. <b>[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]</b> 03:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::left?!?! thats not really an option.. <b>[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span></b> 03:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


:::Yeah just leave it as it is, to the left. You ''do'' know which way is left and right. ''Right?''[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span><span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span><span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 03:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah just leave it as it is, to the left. You ''do'' know which way is left and right. ''Right?''[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span><span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span><span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 03:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


::::yes, but im asking, put the damage/accuracy in the center or to the right? all the pages are to the right, and i was thinking about converting them. <b>[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]</b> 03:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::yes, but im asking, put the damage/accuracy in the center or to the right? all the pages are to the right, and i was thinking about converting them. <b>[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span></b> 03:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't look tacky in the right. Leave it. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't look tacky in the right. Leave it. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yeah. Put them in the center.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span><span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span><span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 03:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yeah. Put them in the center.[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span><span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span><span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 03:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::::we have a conflict here. one says this, and the other says that. try looking at [[Electric]] and {{t|Water}}. also, could somone answer my question above about attack notes? <b>[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]</b> 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::we have a conflict here. one says this, and the other says that. try looking at [[Electric]] and {{t|Water}}. also, could somone answer my question above about attack notes? <b>[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span></b> 03:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


:To the point for the attacks, and actually, center sounds good. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:To the point for the attacks, and actually, center sounds good. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


::What she said.  To the point and in the center.  -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
::What she said.  To the point and in the center.  -[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]]


:::some moves have no secondary notes (like Surf) so, should they be left blank? <b>[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]</b> 22:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:::some moves have no secondary notes (like Surf) so, should they be left blank? <b>[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TALK]]</span></b> 22:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


yes leave it blank. duh![[User:Totodile trainer|Lilio]] 00:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
yes leave it blank. duh![[User:Totodile trainer|Lilio]] 00:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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:I think it means that its unknown where or what it is. Not that it's a never before released location. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 12:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:I think it means that its unknown where or what it is. Not that it's a never before released location. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 12:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
::So why does it state "unreleased location". I suggest moving to "currently unknown location". [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] 12:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
::So why does it state "unreleased location". I suggest moving to "currently unknown location". [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] 12:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
== Marill ==
Since Marill has been retconned to be a Water/Fairy-type in Generation VI, can someone update the page to include Marill as a pure Water-type and as a Water/Fairy-type? Like how Magnemite, Magneton, and Rotom are labeled after their type changes? For example:
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--[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:Someone did it, but they accidentally put Marill in the wrong position. Marill is currently between 131 Lapras and 170 Chinchou when it should be between 171 Lanturn and 194 Wooper. - [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] ([[User talk:Tasty Salamanders|talk]]) 02:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
== Counting Mega-Evolutions as different Pokémon ==
I've already said this on other "type" pages, but this way more people can see it, as it affects this page too. There's way too much inconsistency when throwing Mega-Evolutions among ordinary Pokémon in the type listings (Gyarados is listed twice because its Mega has a different type, but Blastoise is listed only once). Gyarados should be listed once as it is ONE Pokémon that *sometimes* undergoes a type change that WEARS OFF after battle.
Personally, I think the absolute BEST way to go about this is to have a different list for Mega-Evolutions, and I mean exactly like how the Pokéstar Studios Pokémon are separated. That way all Megas are represented equally and still earn a place on the page. Anyone agree? --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 01:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I suppose the best way to go about it is to put an asterisk on the affected pokemon and mention any type changes when it goes mega--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::I don't agree; especially since some Pokemon only belong to a certain type in their Mega form, such as Ampharos and Dragon. I really think the best way is a separate box as with Pokestar "pokemon". --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 03:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
== Type most commonly paired with water? ==
In generation V there were 9 Water/Ground Pokémon (Whooper, Quagsire, Marshtomp, Swampert, Barboach, Whiscash, Gastrodon, Palpitoad and Seismitoad) meaning ground was paired with water more than any other type. In generation VI however, Two Water/Rock Pokémon were introduced and zero Water/Ground pokemon were introduced meaning there were now 9 Water/Ground Pokémon (Listed above) and 10 Water/Rock Pokémon (Kabuto, Kabutops, Omanyte, Omastar, Corsola, Relicanth, Tirtouga, Carracosta, Binacle and Barbaracle). Shouldn't it now be included in the trivia that the Rock type is most commonly paired with the Water type, seeming how it used to be included that the Ground type was most commonly paired with the Water Type?
[[User:Caterpie010|Caterpie010]] ([[User talk:Caterpie010|talk]]) 16:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC) Caterpie010
:I believe it was decided that it fell under the disallowed category of "trivia which can be easily seen by looking at the other information on the page," i.e. by counting the type combinations in the Pokemon list, so it was removed. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
::Besides, it's not really "trivia," per se. What's trivia in terms of combinations is like how Flying has been paired with all 17 other types, and given it's the only type to do so (until Volcanion is confirmed--'''this is something to watch''') it is the type with the most available combinations. --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 15:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
== Pairing with Fire ==
With Volcanion confirmed, Water actually HAS been paired with every type. Shouldn't we remove that part in the trivia about Water types not ever having been paired with Fire types?--[[User:CrazyMagmar|Dunsparce can learn Double-Edge. &#124;B) DEAL WITH IT.]] ([[User talk:CrazyMagmar|talk]]) 18:39, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
:Where has Volcanion been officially announced by Nintendo? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:42, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
== Cissy ==
Even though she only appears in the anime, can we add that Cissy is a Water-type specialist and that the Mikan Gym is a Water-type Gym? [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 19:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fighting_(type)&curid=2849&diff=2185630&oldid=2185622 No.] <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
== Double resistance ==
At Characteristics it says that there are only five Pokemon with a double resistance to water, but shouldn't it say six? --[[User:Hydrachomp|Hydrachomp]] ([[User talk:Hydrachomp|talk]]) 09:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
:You're right. I guess someone added Mega Sceptile into that sentence and forgot to change the number. I made the change. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:05, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
== Exclusive Abilities ==
Should Primordial Sea be listed in the Abilities Exclusive to Water-type Pokémon section? ''' ''<span style="color:#AB0047">Scribbl</span>'' ''' 22:25, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:As noted above the table, it doesn't include signature Abilities, which {{a|Primordial Sea}} is. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:39, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 22:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Bulbapedia,
I thought of a good trivia fact.
'''The Water-type is paired with all the other types. It is also tied with the Flying-type for being paired with all the types.'''
This fact is true. Volcanion is a Fire/Water-type.
Chrisbulb {{unsigned|Chrisbulb}}
:I'm only responding here, but since they are both paired with all other types, that is not an exclusive thing and is therefor not notable. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:12, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 19:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
I understand, but I think it is still notable since the other types are not paired with others. {{unsigned|Chrisbulb}}
:No. It is not unique to one type out of the 17 or 18 we are up to now (cannot be bothered to check the exact number), therefore it is not notable. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 20:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
== Which items to mention ==
I wanted to start mentioning type-related items in the "Characteristics" section of their respective type pages. And by "type-related", I mean items that activate (or change effect) when the holder is a specific type, uses a specific type of attack, or is hit by a specific type of attack. For example, the items that activate when the holder uses a water attack are sea incenses, wave incenses, and lustrous orbs. The items that activate when a holder is hit by a water attack are absorb bulbs and luminous moss. In this example, should water's article mention all 5 of those items? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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