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:::::::::The other two categories, past-gen moves and events, are more of a gray area to me, but since (aside from Gen I/II) it isn't possible to send a later-gen Pokemon back to learn the moves in question and 'born in current generation' is officially recognized by the pentagon in Gen VI , it feels like enough of a difference to me. Excluding event moves also makes some sense to me, since they're exclusive to certain special Pokemon and not any Pokemon of that species. I'm not so sure about in-game "event" Pokemon that don't hinge on real-world things though, like the gen 2 Extreme Speed Dratini, but that has the potential to make it more confusing. Unlike the things in the first two paragraphs, I don't feel too strongly about either of these. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 14:48, 15 June 2016 (UTC) | :::::::::The other two categories, past-gen moves and events, are more of a gray area to me, but since (aside from Gen I/II) it isn't possible to send a later-gen Pokemon back to learn the moves in question and 'born in current generation' is officially recognized by the pentagon in Gen VI , it feels like enough of a difference to me. Excluding event moves also makes some sense to me, since they're exclusive to certain special Pokemon and not any Pokemon of that species. I'm not so sure about in-game "event" Pokemon that don't hinge on real-world things though, like the gen 2 Extreme Speed Dratini, but that has the potential to make it more confusing. Unlike the things in the first two paragraphs, I don't feel too strongly about either of these. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 14:48, 15 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::If we counted egg moves, we would lose a LOT of signature moves here. I think the implication of egg moves versus other moves is a good enough reason, as a move only obtainable by breeding isn't something that a particular Pokémon naturally has the ability to use (i.e. if you just go out and catch one, it will never learn that move, no matter what you try), and therefore it must be specifically passed down to an offspring by the only Pokémon that can naturally learn it. For example, {{m|Octazooka}} has been consistently regarded as {{p|Octillery}}'s signature move; {{p|Horsea}} can learn it, but '''only through direct involvement with an Octillery'''. It will never learn Octazooka unless there is an Octillery involved somewhere in its lineage. A {{p|Pichu}} will never learn {{m|Present}} unless it has a {{p|Delibird}} somewhere in its "family tree". | |||
::::::::::DexNav seems to throw a bit of a wrench into the "natural" idea with the wild egg moves thing, but that seems to just be more of a user-friendly feature so that players have a chance to gain access to egg moves that they might not be able to get otherwise, and also so players have the ability to take advantage of egg moves during story mode (since I imagine very few people take the time to chain-breed then), and perhaps even to introduce the concept to breeding novices, who might not have been dedicated enough fans/players to even know that it existed. — [[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900CC"><b>KiAN</b></span><span style="color:#000000"><b>GLO</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900cc"><u>TA</u></span><span style="color:#000000"><u>LK</u></span>]]</sup> 05:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC) | |||