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::Wait, how do you know what Ziz looks like? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 06:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC) | ::Wait, how do you know what Ziz looks like? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 06:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::It's a giant bird big enough to block out the sun. Good enough, really.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) | :::It's a giant bird big enough to block out the sun. Good enough, really.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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::Oops, i mistaked it for landorus' page, but even that im not sure as well. sorry.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 12:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | ::Oops, i mistaked it for landorus' page, but even that im not sure as well. sorry.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 12:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I did delete it from Landorus's page though. Not sure who did it here. Comparison trivia should be avoided as it borderlines opinion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:43, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | :::I did delete it from Landorus's page though. Not sure who did it here. Comparison trivia should be avoided as it borderlines opinion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:43, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Does the Rayquaza in [[DP142|Where No Togepi Has Gone Before!]] really count as major appearance? == | |||
I personally think it counts as a minor appearance because it only appeared for a few seconds in that episode. If no one opposes this for 24 hours, I am gonna go ahead and change it. | |||
If anything, the Rayquaza in ''[[DP043|Malice In Wonderland!]]'' counts as major appearance since that Rayquaza appeared for more of the episode. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 22:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Well, 24 hours are up, and nobody opposed, I'm making the change now. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 22:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::You need to give people longer than 24 hours to respond. Many people aren't on here all the time, so they aren't able to respond right away. Just give it time. If it takes too long, ask someone to give their opinion. While it only appeared for a few seconds, debuts always count as major appearances, because a debut, no matter how small, is always a major event (as seen on episode articles). The Rayquaza in DP043 was only an illusion, which doesn't count as a real debut (and probably shouldn't even count as an appearance), whereas the Rayquaza in DP142 was real. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 03:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::You're right about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Rayquaza no longer the largest Legendary == | |||
This trivia should be removed, as Primal Kyogre is larger than even Rayquaza. Would someone change this for me, please? [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 19:45, 12 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
Bump. [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 21:03, 13 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia issue == | |||
The trivia says that Rayquaza is the only member of the weather trio without a second type but this is no longer true because of Prmal Groudon. Does Groudon not count because it is Primal? [[User:Ethanbrs]] ([[User talk:Ethanbrs|talk]]) | |||
== Shichishito == | |||
The marks by Mega Rayquaza's eyes resemble the shape of a [[wp:Seven-Branched Sword]]. It even has exactly seven points on it. I think that's proably worth noting, as that seems intentional. [[User:Zakitano|Zakitano]] ([[User talk:Zakitano|talk]]) 15:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It should also be noted that the appendage on its head resembles a {{wp|hoplite}}'s helmet. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 17:43, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
== A couple of things need changing == | |||
In the trivia, part of one of the points says "or does not have a signature move." it does now. Also, the "Rayquaza's encounter in The Subspace Emissary" external link leads to a dead page. It should be removed or changed. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Mega Rayquaza == | |||
Since Rayquaza has been stated NOT to Mega Evolve in the same way as other Pokémon, is it really safe to say that it will make use of an unknown Mega Stone? As far as I know, we haven't received ''confirmation'' that it will use a Mega Stone, and since they went out of their way to say that it WON'T be the same way as other Pokémon, I feel we should say "via an unknown method" rather than "using an unknown Mega Stone." No, I am not saying it definitely WON'T use a Mega Stone, but that we don't know ''for sure'' that it WILL, so just to be safe, shouldn't we change that? [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 10:11, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:According to logic, if Groudon and Kyogre were given primal reversion forms instead of mega evolutions, Rayquaza should have got the same. But now since it has a mega form, EpicDeino is correct. We should change it to "via Unknown Method", just to be safe. → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color: blue">PikaTepig999</span>]] 10:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I originally removed the "an unknown mega stone" and put "unknown means" because that's what its official page claimed ("a unique method"). However, [http://youtu.be/WPQg3lSvWc4?t=41s the promo video on the official channel] says, "Mega Stone obtained in ORAS" and I assume that's accurate and not a generic Mega Evo footer, so I added it in. So unless it's proven to be wrong, we assume it's a stone. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 12:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::The legend of Primal Groudon and Kyogre explictely mentions that Rayquaza used a special stone that reacted to the prayers of Hoenn to become Mega Rayquaza. This is clearly a Mega Stone. However, during the stream where Rayquaza was shown Mega Evolving against another Trainer, it said "Omega's prayer reached Rayquaza!" instead of the usual Mega Stone reacting stuff. We'll probably get more info later. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:00, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
== ORAS Artwork == | |||
Should we use [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:384Rayquaza_ORAS.png Rayquaza's ORAS artwork] on its page now, like we're doing with the Hoenn Starters? [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 23:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I agree with you, there is no point having old artwork representing the page as the main artwork of a page when there is new artwork. [[User:Ellis99|Ellis99]] ([[User talk:Ellis99|talk]]) 11:38, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Two Questions on Mega Rayquaza... == | |||
If Rayquaza only needs {{m|Dragon Ascent}} to Mega Evolve, wouldn't that make the Meteorite's role secondary in Mega Evolving Rayquaza? And is it worthy to note that since Mega Rayquaza doesn't need a Mega Stone as a held item, it can hold an item, or has that already been noted?[[User:IM-T-MAN2|IM-T-MAN2]] ([[User talk:IM-T-MAN2|talk]]) 21:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== "Strong Winds" == | |||
Why would Rayquaza's type immunities due to Delta Stream not count? Mega Groudon and Mega Kyogre say they're immune to Water and Fire, and Pokemon with the potential to have abilities to change type match-ups (Heatproof, Levitate, etc) note them. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 19:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{A|Delta Stream}} does not cause a type immunity the same way {{A|Desolate Land}} or {{A|Primordial Sea}} do. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 15:38, 31 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::So? All natural abilities that affect type advantages (not just immunities) are noted, like {{A|Thick Fat}}. Delta Stream may not affect type advantages quite as directly, but Desolate Land and Primordial Sea already set a precedent. A rule like "both advantages/disadvantages and immunities are noted for direct abilities, but for 'indirect' abilities, only immunities ought to be noted" would be rather dumb. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 05:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Using Dragon Ascent to Mega Evolve == | |||
Rayquaza cannot Mega Evolve even with Dragon Ascent until after the Delta Episode. This should be noted in the top section. [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 01:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:It does. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 02:37, 22 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Key Stone == | |||
I know the Rayquaza from Delta Episode first needs to eat the meteorite in your bag for it to Mega Evolve, but does any other Rayquaza have any condition to Mega Evolve outside of Dragon Ascent? As in, do they specifically need the Key Stone from after the 5th Gym before it can Mega Evolve? Apparently a friend of mine says the recently distributed Event Shiny Rayquaza was capable of Mega Evolving and he didn't even have the Key Stone required for Mega Evolution in general. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 15:28, 15 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== New Artwork == | |||
Rayquaza got new artwork for ORAS. Can we change the main artwork, please? We did it for the Hoenn starters I don't see why we can't for Rayquaza too. | |||
[[File:384Rayquaza ORAS.png|480px]] | |||
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:Yeah, that should really be updated. Anyone who knows how oughta get right on that.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
::We go by the officially used stock art. In the online Pokedex, [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/rayquaza Rayquaza's entry] does not use the ORAS artwork, it uses the artwork we're currently showing. (While all of our main Pokemon artwork may not conform to that guideline currently, it should.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Treecko, Torchick, and Mudkip all use their ORAS artwork, which is why I'm mentioning this [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 19:40, 28 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Shouldn't the trivia say "both also requires capture to continue storyline." == | |||
I would've undone the edit, but I'm not allowed to edit trivia. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:45, 19 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks MetalMetroid997, but shouldn't it say "<I>both <B>are</b> also Pokémon that must be captured before the story can proceed.</i>" ? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:45, 19 June 2016 (UTC) | |||