Talk:Pokémon breeding: Difference between revisions

Talk:Pokémon breeding (view source)

Revision as of 02:57, 4 December 2016

4,435 bytes added , 4 December 2016

→‎Inheriting pokeball effects: new section

Kubi

4

edits

@@ Line 628: / Line 628: @@
 :Seems to me the first egg might have been produced before you saved, so when you reset it you just got the same egg over and over [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 04:45, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 ::I think one of us isn't understanding something (and I'm open to it being either of us, really)... At the point where I saved, I had no Pokemon deposited in the Day Care. And after I deposited both Wurmple, it still took random amounts of time for me to receive an Egg. Were you thinking that I had actually saved with Pokemon in the Day Care, or did you mean something else? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
+:::I must have missed where you said you saved before depositing your Wurmple, my bad. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 05:57, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
+== event moves ==
+I couldn't find this on the article, but do event moves pass down. like for example an endeavor pikachu from the Pikachu cup, can it pass down endeavor? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:31, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
+:A Pokémon can only pass down level-up moves, TM/HM moves (in Gen II-V), Tutor moves (in Crystal), and Egg Moves for that specific species. Some Pokémon (Snorlax and Dratini) have moves that can only be bred from event Pokémon in the first place, but you cannot pass down moves unless the Pokémon's species specifically allows it.
+:Since Pichu does not have Endeavor as an Egg Move or level-up move, it is not possible for the Pikachu Cup Pikachu to pass down Endeavor. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
+== New breeding technique possible? ==
+I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that the PID for an egg in [[Generation VI]] is determined after the previous egg is picked up. If this is indeed the case, then IV passing techniques (like the Destiny Knot) probably don't apply for the current egg, but rather the next one (since the PID and therefore IVs have already been determined) -- if you breed a 31/31/31/31/31/31 IV spread with a Destiny Knot, the first offspring might not have any perfect IVs, but the one following it will have at least 5 of them perfect, even if the parents are different. Theoretically, this would allow breeding up any breedable Pokémon with almost perfect IVs (at least a 1/32 chance) by alternating between a "perfect pair" (which will pass down 5 perfect IVs) and a "desired pair" (which will determine species, egg moves, ball, etc.). I don't have much capacity to really test this theory at this time (nothing close to 5 perfect IVs right now, let alone the best of 6), but if someone can validate it, it should probably be described on the page. I'll continue to look for a citation for the initial statement. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:08, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
+:Beaten to the punch. A similar (and slightly better) technique is described on [http://www.azurilland.com/forums/pokemon-6th-generation/pokemon-x-y/454281-6th-gen-rng-egg-abuse-found-by-japanese-community Azurilland] and confirmed by Smogon (according to the linked thread). Not where I originally read about it, but good enough for me. Adding the bit about the PID to the page. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:18, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
+::And rereading is making me doubt it. I'll need to go do some testing myself before I'd add it to the page. Meh, guess it's time to get a collection of 3 perfect IV parents... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:26, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
+:::Azurilland's thread isn't a very good explanation or exploration; [http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/some-sort-of-egg-rng-abuse-read-the-first-post.3491324/ Smogon's] is (eventually).
+:::There's a few too many complicated details for me to try to add anything about it to the page either, though, without putting it to practice and getting the feel of it myself. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
+== Destiny Knot Clarification ==
+Are the extra IVs passed down unaffected by which parent holds the Destiny Knot? Like, if I have a 5IV Pokémon and a 0IV Pokémon, the 0IV one could hold it and the offspring will have the same chance of inheriting the perfect IVs? If so, I feel that the article could stand to be slightly clearer (like ", regardless of which parent holds it," or something), because that would have saved me a lot of time in the process of breeding my Naive Froakie. -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|<sub>talk</sub>]] 02:37, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
+== Inheriting pokeball effects ==
+Do pokeball effects on inherited balls carry down?
+e.g. two parents with friend balls, the hatched pokemon starts with the friend ball effect of increased friendship.
+[[User:Kubi|Kubi]] ([[User talk:Kubi|talk]]) 02:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)