Talk:Pokémon Legends: Arceus: Difference between revisions

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::::::This is CLEARLY a spinoff. It has its own new subtitle, just like "Pokémon Stadium", "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon", "Pokémon Ranger" and so forth. It doesn't match the concept of main series game on any level and no official source calls it a new main entry, they all just say it's a "new frontier" or something like that. The strongest evidence according to this discussion is "The language used in the trailer" and the "'Pocket Monsters' label", but the former is arguable and the latter is false: this game is officially called "Pokémon LEGENDS アルセウス" using the western name in Japanese, so it's as far from the official "'Pocket Monsters' label" as you can get.--[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] ([[User talk:Kombatgod|talk]]) 12:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
::::::This is CLEARLY a spinoff. It has its own new subtitle, just like "Pokémon Stadium", "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon", "Pokémon Ranger" and so forth. It doesn't match the concept of main series game on any level and no official source calls it a new main entry, they all just say it's a "new frontier" or something like that. The strongest evidence according to this discussion is "The language used in the trailer" and the "'Pocket Monsters' label", but the former is arguable and the latter is false: this game is officially called "Pokémon LEGENDS アルセウス" using the western name in Japanese, so it's as far from the official "'Pocket Monsters' label" as you can get.--[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] ([[User talk:Kombatgod|talk]]) 12:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
::::::That thing about the site classification too doesn't make sense: being a new high-budget game they'll obviously promote this more, but that doesn't necessarily make it part of the core series, and also that link to the official Pokémon Stadium site is counter-productive for the proposed argument since it straight up calls it "the definitive entry in the Pocket Monsters series" so according to the site that's the most core series ever! XD --[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] ([[User talk:Kombatgod|talk]]) 12:40, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
::::::That thing about the site classification too doesn't make sense: being a new high-budget game they'll obviously promote this more, but that doesn't necessarily make it part of the core series, and also that link to the official Pokémon Stadium site is counter-productive for the proposed argument since it straight up calls it "the definitive entry in the Pocket Monsters series" so according to the site that's the most core series ever! XD --[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] ([[User talk:Kombatgod|talk]]) 12:40, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
:::::::"''no official source calls it a new main entry''": The official Japanese trailer and Japanese site both explicitly state that it is part of the main series (called the Pocket Monsters series in Japan). The official site refers to the game as 『ポケットモンスター』シリーズの新たな挑戦 ("A new challenge in the 'Pocket Monsters' series'"). The game does not include "Pocket Monsters" in its Japanese title like previous entries, but the official Japanese site makes sure to emphasize that it is in-fact part of the series so that people aren't confused by the absence of "Pocket Monsters" from the game's title.
:::::::It's worth noting that this game has several key differences from previous core series games, but it is nowhere near as different as the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon or Pokémon Ranger series. Pokémon Colosseum and XD might be a better comparison (which are also not core series games, but share many mechanics with them). But of course, that's irrelevant, because we have official confirmation that they are part of the core series.
:::::::Roserade57 was wrong about Pokémon Stadium including "Pocket Monsters" in its title, which I think has confused several people here. That is only used in the English title displayed on the Japanese cover; it is not actually included in the Japanese title. The linked Japanese site says that Pokémon Stadium GS (Japanese Pokémon Stadium 2) is the definitive game in the Pokémon Stadium series (ポケスタシリーズ ''PokéSta series'')—Google Translate gets this wrong, but that's why you always need to be very careful how you use it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


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