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| <big><big><big>'''Remember, {{color2|000|Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk pages}} are meant for discussing the article itself, not the content. To post all your wild theories and random questions about the content of the games, see <span class="plainlinks">[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=18166 {{color|1b45c1|this forum thread}}]</span>.'''</big></big></big>
 
By the way, TTE's paying attention LIKE A HAWK to any and all information concerning HGSS. Cool it. We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows.
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==Images==
==Images==
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:::::::::I do hope they retain at least the Battle Tower, though i don't think a Battle Frontier will happen again as thats in Platinum already, which means if people want a Battle Frontier they will buy Platinum (so Nintendo can make more cash probably). They might do a Trainer Tower-esque thing like in FR/LG. I wonder if the Red Gyarados will be kept?[[User:494alex]]
:::::::::I do hope they retain at least the Battle Tower, though i don't think a Battle Frontier will happen again as thats in Platinum already, which means if people want a Battle Frontier they will buy Platinum (so Nintendo can make more cash probably). They might do a Trainer Tower-esque thing like in FR/LG. I wonder if the Red Gyarados will be kept?[[User:494alex]]


 
::::::::::The red Gyarados should return, as it was one of the major plot points. It was also mentioned in the opening TV thing in Diamond and Pearl, another indicator that it will probably return. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 06:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


== Version-exclusives between Japanese and English versions ==
== Version-exclusives between Japanese and English versions ==
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== Screenshot Gallery ==
== Screenshot Gallery ==
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File:HGSS_NewBark_Serebii.JPG|In New Bark Town
File:NewBark HGSS.jpg|New Bark Town map <!--so far-->
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File:152Chikorita.png| {{p|Chikorita}}
File:152Chikorita.png| {{p|Chikorita}}
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:::Nothing significant is said during that video, CloudHiro, don't worry. It basically amounts to ''Jesus Christ that Chikorita is following him like Ash's Pikachu kajdbgajkdg''—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Nothing significant is said during that video, CloudHiro, don't worry. It basically amounts to ''Jesus Christ that Chikorita is following him like Ash's Pikachu kajdbgajkdg''—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And here I thought they would have intelligent things to say... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And here I thought they would have intelligent things to say... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Apparently not... --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


==Wind==
==Wind==
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== First gameplay screenshot ==
== First gameplay screenshot ==


Shouldn't we delete that. Not only it isn't showing, but what does it have to do with the article? I think that should be on the [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation]].--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 06:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't we delete that. Not only it isn't showing, but what does it have to do with the article? I think that should be on the Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 06:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:One image would be enough. It's an official screenshot, so what made you think it would fit on a speculation page? '''[[User:Kevzo8|<font color="#66CCCC">K</font><font color="#70DBDB">e</font><font color="#ADEAEA">v</font>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<font color="#ADEAEA">z</font><font color="#70DBDB">o</font><font color="#66CCCC">8</font>]]''' 06:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:One image would be enough. It's an official screenshot, so what made you think it would fit on a speculation page? '''[[User:Kevzo8|<font color="#66CCCC">K</font><font color="#70DBDB">e</font><font color="#ADEAEA">v</font>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<font color="#ADEAEA">z</font><font color="#70DBDB">o</font><font color="#66CCCC">8</font>]]''' 06:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I agree on the delete part though, get a fresh one, that image is broken. [[User:Pyrix|Pyrix]] 20:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I agree on the delete part though, get a fresh one, that image is broken. [[User:Pyrix|Pyrix]] 20:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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::::::It just looks like re-newed Azalea town so there's no way that isn't kurt's house, i think.--[[User:RegiManiac|RegiManiac]] 08:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)RegiManiaC
::::::It just looks like re-newed Azalea town so there's no way that isn't kurt's house, i think.--[[User:RegiManiac|RegiManiac]] 08:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)RegiManiaC
:::::::It's not Kurt's house. It's Burned Tower, Kurt's house is not on an elevated platform (and wouldn't be, he's not THAT important). '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 08:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not Kurt's house. It's Burned Tower, Kurt's house is not on an elevated platform (and wouldn't be, he's not THAT important). '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 08:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It could be either. We should wait and see when the games are released. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


== Replacement? ==
== Replacement? ==
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:::In most people's eyes, Kris was "the Johto girl" like May's "the Hoenn girl", Leaf's "the Kanto girl", and Dawn's "the Sinnoh girl". Sure, Kris didn't actually appear as a choice in Gold and Silver, but most consider her to be as much Gold's female counterpart as May is to Brendan, Leaf is to Red, and Dawn is to Lucas. It's not as much "replaced" as it is "included instead of the more logical choice"... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 20:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:::In most people's eyes, Kris was "the Johto girl" like May's "the Hoenn girl", Leaf's "the Kanto girl", and Dawn's "the Sinnoh girl". Sure, Kris didn't actually appear as a choice in Gold and Silver, but most consider her to be as much Gold's female counterpart as May is to Brendan, Leaf is to Red, and Dawn is to Lucas. It's not as much "replaced" as it is "included instead of the more logical choice"... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 20:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Even though these are remakes of G/S rather than Crystal, the one who had the role of Gold's female counterpart in the franchise was Kris. And now we have Soul filling that role. So yes, we can say that Soul is replacing Kris. [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 02:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Even though these are remakes of G/S rather than Crystal, the one who had the role of Gold's female counterpart in the franchise was Kris. And now we have Soul filling that role. So yes, we can say that Soul is replacing Kris. [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 02:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I would say that it is a matter of how you look at it. Looking at it from the perspective of these being remakes of Gold and Silver, Soul is not replacing Kris. Looking at it from the perspective of Kris being Gold's female counterpart, Soul is replacing Kris. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


== All Pokémon NOW Available ==
== All Pokémon NOW Available ==
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:::::::That doesn't mean that people aren't spazzing about Kris not being in there, even if they're told she wasn't even IN G/S. People need to learn to grow up and deal with what happens, even if they don't like it. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That doesn't mean that people aren't spazzing about Kris not being in there, even if they're told she wasn't even IN G/S. People need to learn to grow up and deal with what happens, even if they don't like it. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Couldn't agree more with you. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Couldn't agree more with you. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Pokemon lover: If it's okay for the R/G remakes to borrow stuff from other games (some GSC Pokémon; many Gen II and III items, including the RSE berries and the HM to learn Waterfall; some GSC music themes), then why would it be so wrong for a G/S remake to borrow stuff from Crystal (such as Kris)?
:::::::::Before anyone tells me to get over it, I'm not complaining about Kris not being included. I'm just questioning the logic in saying "These are GS remakes, so including anything that comes from Crystal would seem out of place". [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Me two cents (A few days late) there's things that are speculation to assume they'll be in, but there's things that are more speculative to assume they're not in. Complicating matters slightly is that Kris was one of those things, but really, still in are: the leaders, team rocket, the starters, kanto, the basic plot. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 10:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::The whole thing we've been talking about, Spideym, is that people tried/have/talked about adding crap that won't happen. See the first thing that TTE said to start the section to understand. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I was replying to Pokemon lover, not TTEchidna. And no, I don't think TTE was talking about what you're saying. Read his comment again. He was ranting about how the fact that people seem to believe that we shouldn't assume until confirmation that stuff like the Johto Gym Leaders is going to come back in these remakes, is ridiculous, as common sense tells us that they WILL be there. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 06:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::::No, he's right. We shouldn't assume they'll add anything new. They'd never add "crap that won't happen." Pokémon following you around? Ridiculous. That'll never happen in a main series game except for yellow. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 08:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
And yet, it was revealed that ALL 493 Pokemon are capable of following you. So, do you STILL think it won't happen, hmm? <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PokemonMasterJamal3}} ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PokemonMasterJamal3|contribs]]) ''</small>
:[[wiktionary:sarcasm|I think you're missing the point.]] I was trying to point out to RAHB the flaw in his argument.--[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Sorry about that. {{unsigned|PokemonMasterJamal3}}
== Generation II Pokémon Platinum sprites ==
I don't know if this is being discussed elseware, but I've noticed that in the trivia sections of certain Generation II Pokémon that received updated colours in their Platinum sprites it's not being mentioned that this happened to alot of other Pokémon.
Their colours are changed so that they match their original colours from Gold and Silver as a hint to the fact that the Gold and Silver remakes were going to be released in a few months time.
For example, in Porygon2's trivia section it mentions that Porygon's sprite colours didn't change in Platinum as if no connection had been made to the G/S remakes.
Surely other people have made this connection, or is it just not being mentioned? [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 08:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:No, Just because it's similar too their original sprites, doesn't mean it was a hint.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 08:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, so your saying that the Generation II Pokémon having the sprite changes to reference their original sprites in G/S and then the G/S remakes being announced a few months after is a complete co-incidence? [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 11:52, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::No, but that sort of thing could mean nothing. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
== Lugia and Ho-Oh ==
Ho-Oh and Lugia in the 3rd Generation games were only available from the event-exclusive Navel Rock. Before the release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, the only way to them in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum, was through Pal Park. However, with the release of HG and SS, now you can get them by trading with HG/SS.
Should it be added to their Trivia sections that they are the only Pokemon to initially be event-exclusive and then be available normally? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 02:51, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Generation II they were available normally... ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|<font color="purple">Berr</font><font color="blue">yma</font><font color="green">ster</font>]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|<font color="silver">Contrib</font>]]'''}→ 02:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I know that, but then should it be said that they are the only ones to be available normally (GEN 2), then event-exclusive (GEN 3), then available normally (GEN 4)? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 04:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:When a piece of trivia gets that contrived, no. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 04:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
::Pf, event-exclusive? I got my Lugia in XD. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 03:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
==The Release Date Isn't Fall 2009, It's in September==
According to the Japanese website, it's coming out in specifically September, not just "Fall". http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Fgame%2Fds%2Fhgss%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 18:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Google's wrong. "2009年秋" (which Google is calling "September 2009" because it's just an awful thing to use) is "year 2009, autumn".—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::I examined the address of the japanese site that Google is translating and this '''www.pokemon.co.jp''' lodged in there and found it is from the official pokemon site in japan so the release month may in fact be legit. Course the exact date still needs released for this game to prove where the real date is. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Are you reading? There ''isn't'' a release month because the site says "autumn" and nothing else.—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 20:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Just so you're aware I even if this page wasn't protected I wouldn't have added the month to this site without further consensus or the exact date to do so since I try to avoid obvious mistakes if possible. Besides there no other sources besides this so I won't do anything beyond this. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I might as well mention that September would be written as 9月 in Japanese (note the use of Arabic numerals for months). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:: I know you stoped talking about this long ago but, yeah, it isn't "Fall 2009" the correct date the games are coming out, it is "September 2009". [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 16:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::What proof do you have of this {{tt|blasphemy|I just wanted to say the word}}? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 16:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What's the 10 on the main page of the new site? Is that a month thing? --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 16:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:: No, I don't know much Japanese just yet, but it think it says so in the special page, Dark! And, Galladeon, no, It think it is the ''day'' so it would like "September 10, 2009" or "10th Semptember, 2009" :P. Now I wish I knew more japanese >.< [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Without knowing Japanese or seeing it myself, considering 9月 would be September, doesn't that mean 10 would be October? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 17:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That's what I was talking about. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 17:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ok wait! Now I'm confused :P. Mmmm  go here http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ and then here http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Fgame%2Fds%2Fhgss%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= Forget the "special" new page that was recently open, this says September 2009 :D :S
No, wait again, you're right, those pages are a lil' old, the new site should be right then, yes, it is October! I think... Awww this is fustrating [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:We already know google translate is not to be trusted. Don't give us anymore from google. Google translate=epic fail. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::As I said previously, the Japanese word for September (which is easy to read because it consists of an Arabic numeral 9 and the kanji for "month" (i.e. 9月)) isn't found in the original, untranslated text. (Google obviously screwed up when making its translator and it somehow botches the translation of "fall 2009" and spits out "September 2009" instead for some bizarre reason.) Nor is the word for October, which is the same as September but with 10 instead of 9 (i.e. 10月). I'm not anywhere near fluent in Japanese (in fact, my knowledge is pretty basic), but I think it's safe to assume that the 10 is referencing how many years it's been since the release of the original versions of Gold and Silver (they were released in Japan in 1999). The release date still says Fall 2009 (the release given by Bulbapedia). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::That's what I thought. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 21:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
== Pedometer a.k.a. PokéWalk  ==
Supposedly, there's a pedometer that will come with the game, and you can upload a Pokémon to it. Then, you can walk around, and the Pokémon will supposedly gain experience. I'm not kidding. If you think I'm crazy, then check out these links: [http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=84986] [http://pokebeach.com/] Shouldn't this be mentioned here, especially when the first link has a video from Pokémon Sunday (a primary source)? [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 05:22, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:This pedometer is going to be called the PokéWalk. Additionally it was announced on Pokémon Sunday (6/7/09) and is also at Serebii(http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml). Also, I started on it in the [[Sandbox]] but was told to hold off on doing anything with it. Lastly, there is a picture on the Serebii newspost. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 05:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::Hmmm, it looks interesting, and given that you have at least one reliable source, then write something up and see what the others think. However, one thing that those pictures on Serebii indicate is that the HG/SS Pokémon might be using the <strike>Platinum</strike> D/P (oops!) sprites, unless that's just a filler. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 17:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe only some of the Pokemon in HGSS use Plat sprites.  FR/LG and R/S used the same Pikachu sprite, after all.  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU!  [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]]  <small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]</small> 18:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I already wrote up something and asked two admins. It is located in the [[sandbox]]. I was told by the admins to hold off until more information is available. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I just noticed the [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold%2C_SoulSilver_to_come_with_pedometer Bulbanews article], so I'd say something brief should be added to the article. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 18:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Don't get your jaws in an uproar, guys. I added the info. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 19:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== More CoroCoro info out ==
So [http://pokebeach.com/2009/06/kyogre-groudon-and-rayquaza-in-heartgold-and-soulsilver apparently more scans are out] with info about the Hoenn legendary trio, and some info about a possible tie-in with the Movie 12 Arceus. Any info that's actually worthwhile to add in? '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 16:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
*Well the way I can figure it from my analysis is that the the three Hoenn Legendaries have a better chance of being posted on this page first being that is more notable than the Arceus event. But once an administrator makes the choice it doens't matter to me if it will be full, partial, or no addition to the page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::They're both gonna be put up... don't worry about it. The admins would already know about it without people asking. They're like vultures over a dying animal. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:::It should all be there now. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 22:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
== Boxart now revealed==
Firstly I would like to applaud you Sketch for removing the unneeded images since I had the same idea myself about not wanting the section to be too overcrowded.
But now the Boxart has been revealed as CoroCoro scans I am wondering if it should be posted because of its importance or postponed till better images are aquired? Course I am willing to wait over being too hasty. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:If I can have an opinion, I would say we should hold off as the news article said the Lugia and Ho-Oh on the box are don't match the official Japanese website. The only thing that could actually verify it that I would agree with is if someone compared the Lugia and Ho-Oh with the Lugia and Ho-Oh that were revealed on Pokémon Sunday, if they match then I would say it is a go... -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 17:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:: *pokes notice at the page's top* '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Last comment has my support since this was intended to affect when the box art should be posted on the page at some point in the near future and this is not supposed to be a forum chat. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I was talking about the "everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK" and the "We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows" parts. Sorry about the confusion. And I appreciate that you aren't spazzing like some users who would if you were them... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::It is because I am a patient person who is used to waiting and since this has value I just wanted to know what the game plan was. I may watch over this page, but I only comment when I feel I need to. If this situation had little importance like an average screenshot then I wouldn't have done anything. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::That's fine. I'm making sure you know. A lot of people tend to miss those, even though they're bigger than anything else on the page. xD '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::My opinion on the boxart: too small at the current time for our purposes. We'll get it up probably in a few weeks when it appears on websites and such in high-res format. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Agree with you there since the boxart is mixed in with the Magazine scan and it is better to wait for pictures that have no magazine scan in them. So this pretty much ends the discussion of the topic of when the should the boxart pictures should be posted on this page. No need to add anything to the discussion at this point -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:Look on the official site! The boxart is now there! [[Image:HGSS Logos and Boxart.jpg|thumb|HGSS Logos and Boxart from official site]] --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 10:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== New Area ==
I put in a bit about the new area near the National Park, but it was removed a few hours later with the comment "We'll wait until we know what that area is". We don't even know for sure that Soul isn't Kris (and that her name is Soul), yet she has an entire article. Should my thing be put back in? --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 03:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't see a reason to mention it yet. We don't even know what it is. You weren't supposed to be able to edit the article anyway. The protection expired. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 10:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::On the one hand, it's official information. On the other hand, it's not much information. I guess we'll wait until we know more, although I agree that too many BP users are revert-happy. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The new areas west of Cianwood and National Park have been added to the [[Johto]] page. Should they be added here or deleted there? --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 17:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
==Confirmed?==
All 493 Pokemon can follow you? Is that correct? I mean, I can't imagine a Pokemon the size of Regigigas following me into a house. {{User|Team Hyper}}
:Yeppers. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Steelix sprite appears to be no bigger than the player, and we know how big they are. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 02:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because there is a picture with a wobbufett, pichu, cyndaquil, and steelix doesn't necessarily mean all 493 Pokémon can follow you around. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Apparently the Japanese text on the scans confirms it. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 02:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps... There's a restriction for certain exotic Pokémon, So if you want to take your Giratina for a walk, you'll probably get a message like, "It's too big!".
The scans may say otherwise, but I can see this happening. Evidence for this is that Rayquasa appears in-game, and his sprite is pretty large, so I really think there'll be restrictions of sort. [[User:Team Hyper|Team Hyper]]
:Do not discuss this here. I only allowed your original comment because it was asking if that was correct. All 493 Pokemon can follow you. There are no restrictions. Period. 493 means 493. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
== New gameplay images ==
Now, there's more gameplay images, someone should put this here but it's protected.
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/introduction/images/img_intro_device01_03.jpg
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/character/images/img_character_main03_01.jpg
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/character/images/img_character_main02_01.jpg
--'''[[User:Lance123|<font color="#B69E00">L</font><font color="#DAA520">a</font><font color="#FFCB49">n</font><font color="#BBBBBB">c</font><font color="#93ABC3">e</font>]][[User talk:Lance123|<font color="#333C44">123</font>]]''' 10:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm uploading them all as we speak.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 10:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Poké Balls are upside down apparently?--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C ">Racer</font>''']] 17:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably not. If I remember right, in DPPt they spin as they come onto the screen. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 17:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== FRLG reference? ==
I don't know if it is a reference or not but is there someone who understands Japanese enough to translate the info from [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/story/images/popup_history.jpg this picture] on the new HGSS site? I'm almost certain that it talks about Team Rocket and not so certain if it mentions anything on "3 years". [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== New Japanese site ==
So there's a "special" page that's opened on pokemon.co.jp (can be found [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ here]).  Is there any way that we could perhaps translate some of it for use in the article?  At the moment, it appears as though there's just the images that are being used in the article, rather than the content itself, which could contain information that would do well to be included.  Opinions on this? [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 16:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:We've been getting material from that site all morning. The link is already in the article itself under official site. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== New Pikachu sprite ==
I assume by now you've all seen the new pictures, one of which featured Pikachu's new sprite.  I took the liberty of cleaning it up, and even making female, shiny, and female shiny versions of it.  Anyone want me to upload them?  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 17:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Upload them somewhere else first and show them here. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 17:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Alright, here ya go;
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8803/pikahgss.png
Obviously, if I'm allowed to upload them here, they're all gonna be done separately.  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 17:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Making your own custom sprites in an attempt to pass them off as official is kind of...meh. Sure, we can take the male sprite. But not the shiny, or female sprites. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 17:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Meh, fair enough.  I'll upload the male Pika sprite right now, then?  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 17:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::...And here it is!  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 17:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::: *adds to HGSS Lt. Surge's party* '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Nevermind... he only has Raichu. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::What is going on here?  I uploaded it as 025.png, so it should be updated on {{tt|everyone's|everyone who has a Pikachu}} page.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 18:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Hey Missingno. where are those new pictures you're talking about! I haven't seen them :D [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: Please make it 80x80 and transparent so it doesn't need to be fixed by someone else. Gen IV non-animated sprites are 80x80. (IIRC, Spr_4h_025_m.png (I assume that's the naming scheme) should be then replaced with an animated one, when that's possible, but 025.png should stay unanimated.) <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 19:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah, about that.... I don't know how to make the sprites transparent.  And since when are there ANY animated Generation IV sprites on this wiki?  The only animated ones I see are Crystal and Emerald.  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 19:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's a very slow process, Bulbasaur's animated. I think we're trying to get all animated sprites animated. Not sure though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 19:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[a:Image:Spr 4p 001.png|Bulbasaur]]'s and Giratina's ([[a:Image:Spr 4p 487.png|1]], [[a:Image:Spr 4p 487O.png|2]]) are the only ones already animated. Transparency is an easy fix as long as you use something else than MS Pain(t). BTW, damn session amnesia, I've been sending this message for like five minutes. <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 19:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::That's gonna be something of a problem for me because I don't really have much experience working with sprites in anything other than Paint.  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real!<small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]]</small> 19:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Work with Paint.net. It's quite easy to get used to if all you currently use is Paint. As for animated sprites, yes I do believe that all the Gen IV sprites are being changed to be animated, but you probably can't see the animation since they're being saved as animated PNGs which some browsers don't support yet. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 20:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Why doesn´t anyone put these new sprites on the Pikachu page for now? If it´s animated later on we´ll put the new sprites but for now I think we should use these sprites. [[User:Biyako|Biyako]] 01:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:Last I checked, they were already there, albeit under the wrong game label. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 01:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
==Image limit for the Gallery==
I would like to inquire about any possible limits there should be for the gallery on this page since I count about 16 pictures in the Gallery and more pictures will come in as the weeks fly by and only some of them will be notable so I feel I should ask this question now? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, since we're not putting every single one on here, and most of them would be on Bulbanews anyways, it's fine as long as we don't go overboard with them. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::There is such a thing as overdoing it. Four more images. Then no more. Afterwards, just swap out images for other ones. If that time comes.  Eventually we'll phase the gallery out. Probably when the game releases. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
*That was one of the options that I thought up earlier to deal with the overcrowding problem and also helped prompted me to create this topic. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have a suggestion: why don't we just link to the archives page where all the images are stored (ex. For other sprites and images, please see HeartGold and SoulSilver images on Bulbagarden Archives.) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::(EC) I know the recent change to six images per row does make it look less cluttered but it's not nice on those of us with a 1024x768 screen, and probably even less nice for unregistered people what with all the ads! Maybe just reduce the size of the images as they appear in the gallery instead? '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 20:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== The Pokédex ==
Is it worth mentioning that the New Pokédex (Johto Pokédex) has its own numbering system this time? The numbers weren't displayed in Gen II. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
We should probably also mention that the Girl PC gets a white and Pink Pokedex. It's a first for the games for it to come in any color other then Red.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 04:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
== The Japanese box art ==
I have uploaded the box art. [[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 04:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
[[File:HeartGold JP boxart.jpg]]
[[File:SoulSilver JP boxart.jpg]]
== Starter sprites ==
Could somebody please get clean sprites of the starters? I'm trying to get the HGSS party templates as finished as I can before it comes out. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
== I FOUND SOMETHING AFTER WATCHING STUFF LIKE A HO-OH! ==
ACCORDING TO PKMN.NET, KANTO MAY OR MAY NOT APPEAR IN HEARTGOLD AND SOULSILVER. BUT IT ISN'T CONFIRMED YET, SO CAN YOU PUT IT IN THE MAIN ARTICLE? DEPENDS ON YOUR VIEW, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T PUT IT IN. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 07:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Already on Bulbanews. You're a little late there bucko. --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] <sup>[[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]]</sup> 07:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::What's with the all caps? That's so irritating... --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 07:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::HE IS SHOUTING!!!!!!--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 07:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then why isn't it on the HeartGold and SoulSilver article? And the Main Page is full of capital letters and such. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 07:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cause it's unconfirmed...--[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] <sup>[[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]]</sup> 07:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Isn't there something in the [[BP:COC|COC]] about the all caps thing? If there isn't, there should be. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 07:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Only if you're talking to someone. He's shouting toward the <s>Game members</s> users to notice his post. --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] <sup>[[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]]</sup> 07:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
== Anyone there? ==
Looks like the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/ Official Site has been updated]. Anyone that speaks japanese there? 'cause some thing seem too be important, but I don't understand. Sorry, the lack of bulbapedia-time makes me act like a noob xD. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 13:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:There is no new information. The site was updated on Monday, the 15th. Today is the 17th. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
== edit this page ==
Whoever can edit this page can you please add that Hoothoot, Larvitar, and the other pokemon at the bottom left on this page:http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/introduction/system02.html?--''[[User:Galm|<span style="color:#FF8040">Ga]]</span>[[User talk:Galm|lm]]'' 14:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think that's a Spinda on the bottom left... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 14:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::That does look like one, hey there is also something about Jirachi on this page http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/02.html, and it says something about Going to a McDonalds, from June 19 to July 17. Or has someone already found that out?--''[[User:Galm|<span style="color:#FF8040">Ga]]</span>[[User talk:Galm|lm]]'' 14:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::It's a Teddiursa, and really, it already says all 493 species can follow players. '''[[User:Kevzo8|<font color="#B69E00">K</font><font color="#DAA520">e</font><font color="#FFCB49">v</font>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<font color="#E3E3E3">z</font><font color="#C0C0C0">o</font><font color="#93abc3">8</font>]]''' 14:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I know that there's something on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/03.html this page]. The only thing I understand is "Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, Giratina!". Someone take a look please? '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 22:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Look at [http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.shtml this page.] --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 22:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
== New Video/News ==
New Info on Filb.de
http://www.filb.de/ <br>
It shows:<br>
- Notch Ear Pichu battling, using {{M|Pain Split}}<br>
- Unlocking an area called "Silent Ruins", where you meet Cynthia.<br>
- Something about Unkown and an Egg <br>
--[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 01:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm sure someone with permissions will add relevant information once they get around to it. The think that main info from those videos we can take, that we don't already know/have is that the battling screen has been slightly redesigned, that the Notched-ear Pichu has a special sprite, and it's moveset will be {{m|Volt Tackle}}, {{m|Pain Split}}, {{m|Helping Hand}} and {{m|Swagger}}. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 01:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
::In order, the first is the [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pichu.shtml Pikachu coloured pichu event] that can be received by going to the 12th movie. The second is just a normal trainer battle (you can tell by the bars in the upper right). The third is the [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.shtml Arceus event] by using the Arceus given away from the 12th movie. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
== Edit request ==
The Pokémon storage system, bag and party interface all use the Nintendo DS's touch screen.
Can {{tt|someone|an admin}} move this below
The screen that pops up when pressing the Start or X buttons in the previous games appears on the touch screen instead.
please? --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 01:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
== The Wikipedia remake link in the opening paragraph ==
It currently links [[wp:remake|here]]; it should instead link [[wp:video game remake|here]], as the latter link discusses the type of remake HeartGold and SoulSilver are while the former discusses remakes in general, including unrelated types of remakes such as movie remakes. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:We already have an article [[remake|here]]. '''[[User:Kevzo8|<font color="#B69E00">K</font><font color="#DAA520">e</font><font color="#FFCB49">v</font>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<font color="#E3E3E3">z</font><font color="#C0C0C0">o</font><font color="#93abc3">8</font>]]''' 02:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Then shouldn't the link in the opening paragraph link there instead of to Wikipedia? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 03:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::We should link to the wiki article. Ours doesn't explain what a remake is. It's just an disambiguation.--[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
== Pichu battle. ==
I've uploaded the battle between Notched Ear Pichu and Pikachu colored Pichu Vs. Igglybuff and Marill, i suggest that we should put it at the galleries...."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
here:
And b4 i forgot can someone of you cut the sprite of the Notched ear pichu to be putted at the section of [[Damos]]...pls."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I also included this two pictures and i hope you include this too....
PLEASE..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 08:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Even if I could add them, I wouldn't... you took those from another website. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::We have enough images, thank you. The Notchie battle will go in when we get better pictures. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering who that man is with Gold, Pichu colored Pikachu and the Notched Ear Pichu. It appears to be Kurt but that's just me. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
== Once template gets modified, add the following instead of "Story on Bulbanews" ==
<code><nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki></code>--'''[[User:Prmatt11|<span style="color:#FE2E9A">''Mew''</span>]]<span class="explain" title="Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!">*</span> [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== A question about reservations ==
It says that pre-orders for HG/SS start in July. Is this for all regions? Leave a message on my talk page if anyone's got an answer. [[User:Link 486|Link 486]] 17:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, no it is not. It hasn't even been announced in other regions. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 18:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== Battle Tower ==
I was looking at the map of Johto again and I noticed the gate to the Battle Tower is there. Should this be noted in the article? --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 05:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:No. We don't know if it will be the Battle Tower or not. They could change it. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::But what are the chances of that? If they change it, it will probably be a new BF. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 06:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Which is why we leave it out for the time being. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 06:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay. BTW, could one of you admins look at my edit request a few topics ↑? Thanks. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 07:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Looked at. Ignored. Looked at again. Fulfilled. xD &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol Thanks. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 08:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)