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==Previous discussion== | ==Previous discussion== | ||
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009) | * [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009) | ||
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:::From what I understood, the cover art used in the article is actually a box, and when you open the box there is the PokéWalker and the game case that you posted above. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC) | :::From what I understood, the cover art used in the article is actually a box, and when you open the box there is the PokéWalker and the game case that you posted above. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::When the English versions come out, should we scan the covers or not? If not, I say we should mention it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 05:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC) | ::::When the English versions come out, should we scan the covers or not? If not, I say we should mention it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 05:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::Mine is just like it only in English. [[User:Crazylegs24]] | |||
== The whole Lati@s version-exclusive thing == | == The whole Lati@s version-exclusive thing == | ||
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I noticed that for some of the moves (e.g. DynamicPunch, Aura Sphere), the backgrounds were different. Does anyone have a list or more information? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | I noticed that for some of the moves (e.g. DynamicPunch, Aura Sphere), the backgrounds were different. Does anyone have a list or more information? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Different from Platinum, or DP? Because they were different in Platinum from what they were in DP. They probably did update a lot of animations for moves, just like from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | :Different from Platinum, or DP? Because they were different in Platinum from what they were in DP. They probably did update a lot of animations for moves, just like from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Late reply is late, but I'm talking about the differences from Platinum. For instance, DynamicPunch has a dark orange background in Platinum, but it's just black in HG/SS. I haven't noticed any differences in the actual moves yet, just the backgrounds. I really should try to compile a list. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 02:54, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes quite a few moves have different animations now. <b>[[User:.insomniac.|<font color="#FFC125">inso</font>]]<font color="#CC1100">m</font>[[User_talk:.insomniac.|<font color="#E0DFDB">niac</font></b>]] 03:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== What the? == | == What the? == | ||
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:::::::I'm not fully affirming that it is an error, even though it seems to be. And what I meant is that every Pokémon game has had this sort of situations so their occurrence isn't exactly new. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | :::::::I'm not fully affirming that it is an error, even though it seems to be. And what I meant is that every Pokémon game has had this sort of situations so their occurrence isn't exactly new. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::::::It's probably a minor thing with the 3D graphic generator. And I never said it had to stay. I just told you why it was there. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 01:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | ::::::::It's probably a minor thing with the 3D graphic generator. And I never said it had to stay. I just told you why it was there. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 01:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
While the word "fail" isn't actually an adjective, I agree that it doesn't read too well. I'm not sure what would be a better replacement, or if it should be removed altogether... [[User:Soul of Dawn|Soul of Dawn]] 14:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
== May I ask == | == May I ask == | ||
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In the original Generation II, the game began with the discovery of Pokemon eggs. In FireRed and LeafGreen, however, Pokemon eggs have already been discovered. So in this game, was the storyline adjusted, or is this a plothole exclusive to the remakes? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 03:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | In the original Generation II, the game began with the discovery of Pokemon eggs. In FireRed and LeafGreen, however, Pokemon eggs have already been discovered. So in this game, was the storyline adjusted, or is this a plothole exclusive to the remakes? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 03:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Elm was just like "I'VE NEVER SEEN A POKEMAN EGG BEFORE" despite being the authority on evolution. He's also pretty nonchalant when Mr. Pokémon sends him the email, as he says, "Oh, it's just another Pokémon Egg." [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 06:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Official English HeartGold and SoulSilver site == | == Official English HeartGold and SoulSilver site == | ||
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Serebii has long since released the official English names of many characters, can somebody change them? '''The''' ''[[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]], [[User Talk:GuyNamedSean|yep, that's '''me'''!]]'' 05:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | Serebii has long since released the official English names of many characters, can somebody change them? '''The''' ''[[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]], [[User Talk:GuyNamedSean|yep, that's '''me'''!]]'' 05:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Please read the previous discussions on the matter. All you need to do is scroll up. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 05:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | :Please read the previous discussions on the matter. All you need to do is scroll up. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 05:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
Now the names ARE official. In the demos the name for kotone is Lyra. Can I change it now? {{unsigned|Vampirebidoof}} | |||
:Is it really that hard to wait another 8 days? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
::No, but it's dumb that official game footage has confirmed it ant the mods still refuse to act like it's valid enough proof. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 22:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Dates == | |||
The dates need to be changed because in one of the countries (I think Korea) HeartGold and SoulSilver has already came out [[User:CodyDelis|Cody A. Delis]] 00:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Why do they need to be changed? I think the sentence should be reworded to note that the Korean HGSS is already out. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 01:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Thats what I meant sorry,I just typed what went through my head. [[User:CodyDelis|Cody A. Delis]] 01:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::ive taken care of it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== New images == | |||
Could someone put these in? They are English screen shots to replace the Jap. ones | |||
[[:a:File:SoulSilver US start screen.jpg]] | |||
[[:a:File:Heart Gold US start screen.jpg]] | |||
They are from the press site: | |||
http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=19523 | |||
http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=19535 | |||
[[Water (type)|<font color="Navy">Water</font>]]<small>[[Hydro Cannon (move)|<font color="Blue">User</font>]]</small> <small><sub>([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])</sub></small> 19:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Gameplay changes correction== | |||
The last note needs to be updated on the Kimono Girls summoning dance to reflect that it is only for summoning Ho-Oh in HeartGold and Lugia in SoulSilver only to avoid confusion. As long as the page is protected there is nothing that I can do about it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== New Dutch/Belgium Release Date == | |||
Just got a mail from Nintendo saying that the new release date for the games is the second of april (april 2 2010). | |||
Is it worth it posting this on the article? [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 15:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Since [http://www.nintendo.nl/NOE/nl_NL/news/2010/lanceerdatum_pokmon_heartgold_version_en_pokmon_soulsilver_version_bevestigd_16616.html these] [http://www.nintendo.be/NOE/nl_BE/news/2010/lanceerdatum_pokmon_heartgold_version_en_pokmon_soulsilver_version_bevestigd_16616.html news articles] at Nintendo NL and Dutch BE, respectively, announce the release date as April 2, then yes, it must be mentioned on the article. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 11:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== On memes in the Trivia section == | |||
Seeing as Bulbapedia is being a big ol' bag of dicks at the moment and I can't edit anything without getting a 504, I'll just leave this here as a note in case I forget about it. | |||
In the Trivia section, the 'A winner is you' quote links to the Wikipedia page for Yoda of Star Wars fame; it should link to the page for Pro Wrestling on the Nintendo Entertainment System, as this is where the meme originates from. {{unsigned|Tehb0ll0x}} | |||
:first off, we arent being "a big bag of dicks" about the 504s. we simply have too many users and not enough server. if you read the Message from the Editor on the main page, you would know this. | |||
:second, idk who added it, but its pretty clear they guessed on that one. | |||
:third, sign your comments. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 21:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Ah, I wasn't referring to the Bulbapedia community, staff, ''et al'', but to the site itself. In other words, I was doing the typically human thing and blaming the inanimate object for the problem. Apologies for the misunderstanding. And I'm ALWAYS forgetting to sign things. Apologies for that too. [[User:Tehb0ll0x|Tehb0ll0x]] 20:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
== KOREAN POKEMON BOXART IMAGE == | |||
<font size="2">'''I FOUND THIS IMAGE OF THE KOREAN BOXART OF THIS GAME FROM SOME KOREAN WEBSITE [http://media.daum.net/digital/game/view.html?cateid=1051&newsid=20100202122719195&p=gamedonga (source)]. Is it OK to put it in the article?'''</font> [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 06:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
:No, only the english boxart. --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 06:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Yes, it did == | |||
Before anything starts about what i added in the trivia section, i saw the commercial myself.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Flyingtypefan}} ([[User talk:Flyingtypefan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flyingtypefan|contribs]]) ''</small> | |||
: That was a shot from a battle on the PokéWalker, sorry. Oh and be sure to sign. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 22:43, 29 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
It was? Well, i haven't used the Pokewalker before, so can you encounter a Lugia on the Pokewalker? Just to be sure, i'll see if i can find the commercial online. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
:If the {{p|Lugia}} is on the right of the screen, it's the players Pokémon. The opposite to normal main game battles.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 10:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Anyone mind a few more redirects? == | |||
Does anyone mind if I make a few more directs to this article? Specifically redirecting 'SilverSoul' to this article, because people commonly mix up SoulSilver as SilverSoul, it's a common mistake and I've been known to do it a large number of times (not on this wiki of course...). So anyway, would anyone mind if I made those redirects? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I've never seen anybody use that. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 04:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
== How far should the notes go == | |||
One thing that has been on my mind for a while is how far should the notes and trivia go to avoid making this too long for the page. Minor tidbits that are not related to a general change could be removed or moved, and one thing I did was merge to similar notes together. This is the perspective I have been looking at for HeartGold and SoulSilver. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Should this be on the page? == | |||
HGSS combined have sold over 10,090,000 copies.--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 20:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Two cases == | |||
Should it be mentioned that the game comes within two cases? One holding the Pokéwalker and the actual game case, and then the actual game case itself? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 18:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Australian Release == | |||
On the article it says that Australia has had HeartGold and SoulSilver since the 25th of March 2010, right? I was walking past an Australian store with the games on an earlier date, around the 18th to the 23rd. Should it be changed? [[User:Strongriver|Strongriver]] 05:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Does that store import games? I know that there are quite a few stores in English speaking countries which will import the games from the States to get them earlier than local release (although in this case only by a few days. Platinum however it was a couple of months.) <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
::The official release date of the games in Australia was indeed March 25. I think we should just leave it as that. Preorders sometimes arrive before the release dates, too. [[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''たか'''</span>]][[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#DAA520;">'''はり'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''い'''</span>]] 07:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Critical Reception == | |||
Should this page have a "Reception" section like other games? I have some information regarding review scores and nowhere to put them.--[[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 22:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
== MISSING PLOT? == | |||
Why is the Plot section of this article missing? The last time I checked this article, it was here. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Uh, from what I've seen, it hasn't been there for months, possibly due to its remake status. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig</font> <font color="#FF7F00">A</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 16:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
But [[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|Firered and Leafgreen]] have a Plot section and they are also remakes. HGSS plot has a few plot changes from [[Pokemon Gold and Silver|Gold and Silver]] so this article needs a Plot section. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Type Secialist == | |||
Is it worth noting that this game is the first to include type specialist for all 17 types (15 different gym leaders (not including Blue), Karen (Dark), and possibly Giovanni). I say possibly because I don't know if he counts as a Ground type specialist in these games. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 01:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The title of the page should stay the same. == | |||
It has been suggested that the title of this article be renamed "Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver." I'm okay with the suggestion, but even though other territories don't use the word "version," North America does, so we should refer to them by their full North American names. Thank you. [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 23:35, 25 September 2015 (UTC) | |||