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::::I've played the game for a while, and IIRC, only shards are present in those locations, and not in the other ones, and vice versa for the other items. Not sure how to officially verify that though. [[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] ([[User talk:Jdthebud|talk]]) 21:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
::::I've played the game for a while, and IIRC, only shards are present in those locations, and not in the other ones, and vice versa for the other items. Not sure how to officially verify that though. [[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] ([[User talk:Jdthebud|talk]]) 21:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::Hmm...for one thing, it'd be nice to have a bit better testimonial than "IIRC". For another, since the [[Gem]]s do all (mostly) say just "Dust clouds" unqualified for B2W2 at the moment, I'd also like to hear a second person confirm that the Gems don't appear in the locations where the Shards appear. As far as "verifying" it, I'd say that, personally, if I found 50 Shards and no Gems, I'd feel comfortable saying there were no Gems there. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::Hmm...for one thing, it'd be nice to have a bit better testimonial than "IIRC". For another, since the [[Gem]]s do all (mostly) say just "Dust clouds" unqualified for B2W2 at the moment, I'd also like to hear a second person confirm that the Gems don't appear in the locations where the Shards appear. As far as "verifying" it, I'd say that, personally, if I found 50 Shards and no Gems, I'd feel comfortable saying there were no Gems there. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
::::::Well I have found hundreds of shards in Relic Passage and nothing else. Can't say that about Reverse Mountain, though, since Relic Passage is where I do my Shard farming. [[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] ([[User talk:Jdthebud|talk]]) 05:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::::That's pretty solid testimony. Reverse Mountain should definitely be checked before changing anything (or claiming the same for it). If ''I'm'' going to change anything, ''I'd'' like someone to corroborate it first, but to be honest I'm not gonna tell you you can't change it yourself if you're convinced (preferably after you've checked Reverse Mountain a bit, that is). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


== Steelix ==
== Steelix ==
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So, since there's no mention on the main page, I figured I'd put some info here for whoever updates it.
So, since there's no mention on the main page, I figured I'd put some info here for whoever updates it.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 21:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


* [[Kalos Route 6]]: Rustling bushes, where you can encounter either [[Venipede]] or [[Audino]].  Personally, I have yet to see this, but it's mentioned on the three linked pages.
* [[Kalos Route 6]]: Rustling bushes, where you can encounter either [[Venipede]] or [[Audino]].  Personally, I have yet to see this, but it's mentioned on the three linked pages.
* [[Glittering Cave]]: In the second room, the one where you meet Team Flare for the first time, Pokémon can drop down from the ceiling.  So far, I've encountered [[Woobat]] and [[Ferroseed]] this way.
* [[Glittering Cave]]: In the second room, the one where you meet Team Flare for the first time, Pokémon can drop down from the ceiling.  So far, I've encountered [[Woobat]] and [[Ferroseed]] this way.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 21:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


== Data for dust cloud rates in BW ==
== Data for dust cloud rates in BW ==
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Lastly, I also used 393 Max Repels during my search, amounting to 98,250 steps. That's roughly 500 dust clouds in roughly 100,000 steps, giving a phenomenon rate of half a percent (0.5% or 0.005). But that's also in a confined space, where not every square had a chance of producing a phenomenon; but at the same time, it's a bit of a problem that multiple squares did have a chance, which may not extrapolate well to every location. Plus, I didn't run into each dust cloud the next step after it formed, so I "wasted" some steps. I don't know if that would bring it up to 1%... But either way, I plan to do a more solid test of phenomenon rate anyways.
Lastly, I also used 393 Max Repels during my search, amounting to 98,250 steps. That's roughly 500 dust clouds in roughly 100,000 steps, giving a phenomenon rate of half a percent (0.5% or 0.005). But that's also in a confined space, where not every square had a chance of producing a phenomenon; but at the same time, it's a bit of a problem that multiple squares did have a chance, which may not extrapolate well to every location. Plus, I didn't run into each dust cloud the next step after it formed, so I "wasted" some steps. I don't know if that would bring it up to 1%... But either way, I plan to do a more solid test of phenomenon rate anyways.
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:44, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:44, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
:Veekun has [http://veekun.com/dex/locations/twist%20mountain similar data] for encounters, given the dust cloud yields a Pokémon. It doesn't consider items though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
== Why the split entry for unfezant male and female? ==
Is it considered to be form difference or something? Also,in dragonspiral tower's entrance,the rustling grass' data for unfezant's encounter rate shows 5% for its female in B/W,while in B2/W2 dragonspiral tower's outside area,it says unfezant male's encounter rate is 5%. In most pages they would just show 2.5% rate for each gender. Is there a reason to all of this? [[User:Fiky f|Fiky f]] ([[User talk:Fiky f|talk]]) 00:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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