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then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames | then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames | ||
:Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC) | :Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Second Son== | ==Second Son== | ||
Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right? | Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right? | ||
:It's crazy, but there is no known relation between Paul and Giovanni. Paul is Reggie's younger brother. So since Reggie is older, that makes (whoever their father is) Paul the second son. I don't know of any relatives to Paul, except Reggie. There are rumors that Giovanni, Silver and Pyramid King Brandon are (one of them) related to Paul; namely, his father. There are also rumors that Professor Ivy and Hall Matron Argenta could be related to Paul; namely, his mother. There are also rumors that he is somehow related to Anabel, Lucian and Will. However, if any relation to Lucian and Will existed, they would have to be cousins, otherwise, Paul would be the third (if only Will/Lucian is his brother) son or the fourth son (if Will and Lucian are his brothers). Shinji is unaffected if Anabel was his sister, because Reggie is still older and is the first son. However, these are all rumors and Paul has no known relatives outside of Reggie. If Curtainshipping (Reggie/Maylene) were canon, Maylene would be Paul's sister-in-law. However, none of these rumors have been proven true and Curtainshipping is not canon. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 16:48, 7 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Paul/Brandon== | ==Paul/Brandon== | ||
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==Turtle== | ==Turtle== | ||
Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? -- | Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? --[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]][[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]][[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Trivia never really matters.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | :Trivia never really matters.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | :: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | :::Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
== The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar == | == The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar == | ||
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:It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | :It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | ::Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or something<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"> | :::I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or something<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 05:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | ::::Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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::: Ok, how about that? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | ::: Ok, how about that? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
''Status Unknown''!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! | ''Status Unknown''!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Or something like that [[User:Luord|Luord]] 23:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | Or something like that [[User:Luord|Luord]] 23:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
How does Magmar being a Magmortar not make it related to a Generation II Pokemon? Unless one was to say, it was never seen as a Magby. | |||
[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 10:04, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Paul's Weavile == | == Paul's Weavile == | ||
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:The anime doesn't really pay attention to egg moves. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 16:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | :The anime doesn't really pay attention to egg moves. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 16:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I have seen [[DP003|this episode]] in both versions, Japanese as well as its dub, and I am pretty sure that the moves are correct. Besides, it is not necessary that the anime must follow games' rules/mechanism, as we have already noticed a few similar events in the past. Anyway, a double check won't hurt anyone. I will try to re-watch the episode later tonight, just in case. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 16:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ::I have seen [[DP003|this episode]] in both versions, Japanese as well as its dub, and I am pretty sure that the moves are correct. Besides, it is not necessary that the anime must follow games' rules/mechanism, as we have already noticed a few similar events in the past. Anyway, a double check won't hurt anyone. I will try to re-watch the episode later tonight, just in case. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 16:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
:It's as Dignified says. The anime doesn't flow directly into the game. In fact, many of ASH'S Pokemon have used multiple moves that can't legitimately learn at all in the games. | |||
==His realistic age== | |||
I know that this is a while since this was being discussed but if I may say: Presume that each adventure Ash goes through takes a year (i.e. one year travelling through Kanto to compete in the Indigo League, one year in the orange islands to compete against the Orange Crew and then the Champion (Drake), one year travelling through Johto to compete in the Silver League, one year travelling through Hoenn to compete in the Ever Grande League, one year travelling through Kanto again to complete the Battle Frontier and one year in Sinnoh to compete in the Lily of the Valley League), then if he started at 10 then he should be 16 at the end of the Sinnoh Saga (DP191). To say Kanto-10, Orange Islands-11, Johto-12, Hoenn-13, Kanto Battle Frontier-14, Sinnoh-15 and Unova-16 (the ages Ash was when he first journeyed through these regions, note that he travelled through Kanto twice). Paul stated in DP40 that he has competed in the Kanto, Johto and Hoen region League tournaments. So if to travel through a region to obtain the badges and compete in the respective League of that region would take a year: then Paul must have been 10 when he travelled through Kanto, 11 in Johto and 12 in Hoen. Therefore he would have been 13 when he was travelling though Sinnoh and 14 near the end of the Sinnoh Saga (DP191). | |||
To sum up: At the start of the Unnova Saga, Ash should be 16 and Paul should be 14, if they aged a year for each competition they competed in. | |||
[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 10:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:What's your point? It doesn't matter that they "should be" something. It's what "they are" that matters. Ash is, and always will be until further notice, 10, and Paul is unknown. End of story. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 10:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
With that whole discussion that was going on, I just thought it worthwile to add most likely realistic ages, since people were discussing how old they appear to be. | |||
[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 10:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Adding realistic ages is conjecture, guessing and not confirmed therefore is not wanted here. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== the notability of Paul's Pokémon using mega drain. == | |||
To be entirely honest I don't think this trivia belongs on Paul's page, because it has almost nothing to do with Paul. I think it's more fitting for the [[Giga Drain (move)|giga drain]] page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 17:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:It's {{m|Giga Drain|GIGA Drain}}, not {{m|Mega Drain}}. But, I like your idea. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Lucida Handwriting" size="2" color="#FF0000">I am</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#00FF33">Mikoro</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|wanna talk?]]) 21:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::It's not notable in '''either''' page. Now, please, stop adding it. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Can you please tell me why? And by the way, BlazikenMaster, please remember to use [[List of link templates|link templates]] when adding links that lead to move pages, Pokémon pages, anime character pages, etc. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Lucida Handwriting" size="2" color="#FF0000">I am</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#00FF33">Mikoro</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|wanna talk?]]) 01:44, 6 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::To be entierly honest, I'm confused about those templates and how they work. But I will be using them more often though. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 17:43, 6 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::That's why I gave you the list. You should probably look through that list and learn them. That's what I did. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Lucida Handwriting" size="2" color="#FF0000">I am</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2" color="#00FF33">Mikoro</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|wanna talk?]]) 19:13, 6 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Weavile's Gender? == | |||
I'm aware that the anime is iffy on this but isn't Weavile a "Gender differenced" species? So is that an indication of Paul's Weavile's gender?--[[User:Benayla|Benayla]] ([[User talk:Benayla|talk]]) 04:00, 12 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Lairon -> Aggron == | |||
Um... Was it even mentioned anywhere that Paul's Aggron is the same Lairon he used against Brandon? I remember that the lack of a mention in the original [[BW016]] meant that Lenora's Herdier isn't considered to be the Lillipup she previously used. Shouldn't this be the same case? '''''<font color="#705898"><sub>[[Shadow Sneak (move)|Sneaking]] from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost...</sub> [[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]'''''</font> 14:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== How do we know it's the same Ninjask? == | |||
I mean, there's a flashback of him catching a Ninjask in one episode, and he uses it to battle Ash in another. How do we know for sure that Paul didn't simply catch another? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:04, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
: We don't, same as we don't even know that his Lairon and Aggron are the same, nor do we have proof that Nando's Roselia and Roserade are the same or even that May's Bulbasaur and Venasaur are the same. In all cases, they likely are the same but in cases such as Lenora's Herdier; an admin would have made a decision on it. If an administrator makes a decision and then later finds out it was wrong, they don't usually go back on their decision and admit they are wrong; that is why inconsistencies [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 15:54, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::It was stated that Herdier and Lillipup are separate, whereas all those examples you've listed weren't stated to be separate. Guessing that Paul caught another Ninjask (even if it is his nature to catch more than one of the same species) is speculation is far less farfetched speculation that assuming it's the same Pokemon. It's called common sense.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 16:14, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::: Herdier was never stated to be different nor the same, I fact the Lenoa's page on here makes that clear. Nevermind though, I'm not going to tackle the flimsy subject of "common sense" [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Uh, they specifically said that her Lillipup evolved into Herdier. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:19, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::: They said so in the dub, but not in the original; the original says nothing to support either possibility, exactly like all my examples above where Force Fire so patronizingly told us "common sense" would give us the answer. Sometimes he likes to use "don't assume" despite the "don't assume" and "common sense" 'rules' (Not really rules, just things that Force Fire says) contradict each other. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 18:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||