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Another Shinji

There's another Shinji in the Pokémon Anime. He's the Hitmonlee Trainer from Legend Of Raikou movie. He was unnamed in English Version. Should there be a disambiguation? And it's pretty possible that Hitmonlee Shinji's dub name is Sean because Chronicles characters's names are taken from the trainers from GSC and there is Cooltrainer named Shinji in the game, and his name Sean in English Version. The same rule was used for Kenta/Jimmy, Jun'ichi/Vincent, Takumi/Jared, Tsuyoshi/Corey and every other character from Chronicles who shared the name with trainer in GSC (except Tsutomu/Georgio, for some reason). --Maxim 18:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It makes sense, but I'm against it. Recently, May was turned into a disambig page. I've since been going through every article linking to the correct one. I suppose with Shinji it wouldn't be that big of a deal, since he hasn't been in that many episodes, but it's such a time-consuming task to do that. --PAK Man 22:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
So if it is to be done, do it now rather than having a harder job later.
There's also Lake Shinji/Trust. --FabuVinny 20:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe better to wait for English DP. When English DP game and anime is released, all things and character will get own English named and disambig won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 20:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree. By the time the English DP comes out, the Japanese names won't really matter anymore. --PAK Man 20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, now with Shinji Miyazaki, shouldn't there be a disambig like there is with Satoshi? --TTEchidna 06:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, wait until Shinji's US name is revealed. When it'll be, the disambiguation won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
But Satoshi is Ash's Japanese name, and Shigeru is Gary's... --TTEchidna 20:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
But Satoshi and Shigeru are Pokémon Anime's very main protagonists and Satoshi Tajiri and Shigeru Miyamoto are most well-known people related to Pokémon. And the disambiguation was also needed because of Satoshi and Shigeru in Zensho. I'm not sure if it is so much needed for Shinji, as he isn't as important as Satoshi & Shigeru, as well as Miyazaki is not as important as are Tajiri & Miyamoto. I don't support this disambig. --Maxim 21:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Shinji is just as important as Shigeru. --FabuVinny 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Should it also be mentioned that both Paul and Lake Verity share the same name in Japanese? Taromon777 09:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Weavile & Torterra????

I saw the trailer for the DP040, and it looked like Paul was battling against Cynthia with a Weavile and a Torterra. Are these his new Pokémon? -- Kenji Girl 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Since it's only the preview, I would wait until the episode airs to list them as his. --PAK Man Talk 20:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

They are both his old Pokémon and one thing notable is that Torterra is his starter Pokémon, not Chimchar.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm I know that now. I made that comment like six months ago. Before the episode premiered. --ケンジ ガール 09:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

His age?

Where does it say Paul is 11? He doesn't look like or sound like he's 11. - Jonah 15:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's also explained that he is actually an experienced Trainer wgo travelled over Kanto, Johto and Hoenn. So, how old was he when he started his first Pokémon Journey? He looks rather like 14. I really hate how everyone underages characters. --Maxim 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Since paul ha traveled through 3 regions and started 10 years old like everyone he should be about the same age as Ash.--Tomas 20:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I think you may be right here. He travels through three regions (presumeably on foot, as we've seen nothing for him to ride or Fly on...) and competes in their tournaments (which are yearly, IIRC) and he's only 11? Someone with a decent grasp of jaspanese needs to have a long talk with Pokeani. - Alan

then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames

Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. TTEchidna 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Second Son

Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right?

It's crazy, but there is no known relation between Paul and Giovanni. Paul is Reggie's younger brother. So since Reggie is older, that makes (whoever their father is) Paul the second son. I don't know of any relatives to Paul, except Reggie. There are rumors that Giovanni, Silver and Pyramid King Brandon are (one of them) related to Paul; namely, his father. There are also rumors that Professor Ivy and Hall Matron Argenta could be related to Paul; namely, his mother. There are also rumors that he is somehow related to Anabel, Lucian and Will. However, if any relation to Lucian and Will existed, they would have to be cousins, otherwise, Paul would be the third (if only Will/Lucian is his brother) son or the fourth son (if Will and Lucian are his brothers). Shinji is unaffected if Anabel was his sister, because Reggie is still older and is the first son. However, these are all rumors and Paul has no known relatives outside of Reggie. If Curtainshipping (Reggie/Maylene) were canon, Maylene would be Paul's sister-in-law. However, none of these rumors have been proven true and Curtainshipping is not canon. WATERWarrior67 16:48, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


Was it really needed to lose that bit? It was in the Trivia section and might be worth keeping in mind in case it turns out be true. Or gets proven false, whichever comes first. - Cassius335

No! Because encyclopedic article isn't place for stupid fanspeculations. Paul can be ANYONE's son. Tell me, why Brandon? We don't care about fanwanks. And sign your comments! --Maxim 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, sorry, I forgot. As for 'Why Brandon'... well, look at them. Compared to the likes of Brock and his mother, they're practically identical, Paul's just shorter. - Cassius335


Didn't paul try to capture a fearow in an episode? And by the end we didn't know what had happened to it? So why don't we put it under unconfirmed? idk how to make it the shiny green one japanese name was lucky an espeon SLE_Aman my favorite pokemon


I agree with whoever took out the bit about Paul being referred to as "Nugai" by Pie. I'm highly critical of the justification, "It was important piece of fanon history." His name was revealed shortly after his first appearance in Coro Coro. One American on one message board calling him Nugai, a made-up confusingly Japanese-sounding name, for a couple weeks doesn't really deserve a mention in this article, I don't think, even if it was an admin who coined the term. --Greengiant 21:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It was hardly just Pie calling him that. Everyone did until his real name was revealed. So yes, that is a fact worth noting about Paul. Plus, if someone came across the name when looking at stuff from that time and decided to use Bulbapedia to see who it was, they are currrently able to find the information on it. --FabuVinny T-C-S 21:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, let the name stay there but why do we need to keep who coined it as well? If a person was reading this article, does it matter to him who coined the name? JmathTalk 22:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
It does to posterity. Allow the guy his small slice of history, will ya? Cassius335 22:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Pie is female. Anyway, I really don't see what the problem is. It's one sentence in the trivia section and it certainly isn't worth having a seperate "fanon terminology" article. --FabuVinny T-C-S 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The opening section a bit harsh now. Has Paul actually stated that bonding with Pokémon would "make them weak and useless"? Being friends is Pokémon is obviously not his style but calling him arrogant for that seems a bit much. --FabuVinny T-C-S 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

He said that in DP040. Well, he said slackers but what's the difference?. JmathTalk 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, there is a difference in that. I still don't think he can be described as arrogant, though. --FabuVinny T-C-S 16:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I do solely remember in one episode where Reggie did indeed describe Paul as arrogant.JessiPlatinum 12:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


Do you think we should create a disambiguation page for Paul? Because that is the last name of one of the voice actors, Ed Paul. Or should we put one of those warnings at the top of the page like we have for Ash and the Sacred ash? --ケンジ ガール 05:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm for warning. I don't like making disambigs for the sake of making disambigs. It's not needed. --Maxim 11:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? --DarthCookieMonster 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia never really matters.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Seconded. Cassius335 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. TTEchidnaGSDS! 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar

Paul said he will catch another powerful fire-type Pokémon after releasing Chimchar in DP052.So what will be that Pokémon?I strongly believe that it is a Magmortar because it is the most powerful fire-type Pokémon in Sinnoh apart from Heatran.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you know he said he would capture another Fire-type? --ケンジ ガール 09:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I watched the Japanese version of that episode.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you speak Japanese? --ケンジ ガール 09:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

No, hear only.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Paul refusing the Soothe Bell

Couldn't we mention in Trivia that Paul giving away the Soothe Bell means he doesn't care about getting his Pokémon to warm up to him?

In the games, Soothe Bells are use to get a Pokémon to like you faster. I figured that this was the anime's way of saying that Paul doesn't care whether his Pokémon like him or not. --ケンジ ガール 05:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC) I think exactly the same thing--Tomas 20:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


Seriously? Where did you get this info from? Just curious.

Wonder if he'll be nice. --ケンジ ]ガール 22:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --FabuVinny T-C-S 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --ケンジ ガール 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or somethingPokeManiac102 05:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --ケンジ ガール 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism to the Wikipedia article

Someone keeps putting Pete Capella in parenthesis although we kno Rebolledo does the voice so PAKMan will you block that person ? Livinlarge18 12:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, I have no control over what goes on at Wikipedia. Let one of their administrators know. --PAK Man Talk 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Yea, we and Wikipedia are two totally different websites. --Theryguy512 20:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Rowan, We Have A Problem.

Viewers of the most recent episode are repoting Paul beating Maylene with a Magmar. While the "Paul gets Magmortar" crowd grin like idiots, there's a slight glitch: Magmar would push Paul's team to 7 members on hand, which is obviously impossible. So how the heck do we configure the "On hand" section now? - Cassius335 12:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On the latest episode Paul reveals that he has a Magmar, now one problem, do we have to show Seven Pokémon on his team? Since we can't say which one he released, if ever. Ej92 12:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's Ursaring or Weavile.-Billy4b2004 12:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dammit, Ej92! I already started a section about this. - Cassius335 13:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops! sorry... Ej92 06:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Ursaring because he's never used it in battle before.

He did use it in a battle against TR......-Billy4b2004 15:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: Configuring the On hand section; what about adding a row with Magmar in it and then stating that as of DP066, we know Paul has a Magmar, but it is unknown which Pokémon it replaced? --PAK Man Talk 15:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Nice thought, looks silly. - Cassius335 17:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, how about that? - Cassius335 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Status Unknown!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! KPF 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. - Cassius335 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

That's correct, the Eleboo at Reiji's house is actually Shinji's. The template and Shinji's Eleboo article has already been updated with this. Matkin22 18:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Personality/Pokemon Team Connection

Everyone knows how Paul has a dark peronality, right? Well he has Gliscor and Weavile, who are formed when Gligar and Sneasel evolve holding Razor Fang/Claw respectively... at night! WHEN IT'S DARK! Both Gliscor and Weavile also have an evil, deceiving/mischievous personality! Anyone see where I am going with this?--KukiTalk 21:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Completely into fanwank? Paul isn't particularly dark, just unemotional. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 21:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

K--KukiTalk 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Paul's Gliscor is GROUND-Flying, not DARK-Flying. Maybe it's a nocturnal Pokémon?BlueJirachi 19:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's blame it on Mesprit again...Taviource 01:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure...Touch Mesprit and you lose all your emotions. Yeah, right like that actually happened with Paul. BlueJirachi 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you never know. After all, he is Paul.Taviource 01:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...To be honest, I believed Cyrus lost his emotions by touching Mesprit in the game, when he was younger. The resemblance in personality with Paul's is uncanny, though. Still, Paul's disposition follows Silver's. I doubt he encountered Mesprit. BlueJirachi 02:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw your comment about that earlier. That's where I thought of this.--Taviource 02:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Maybe Paul really IS unemotional and unfeeling. His Pokémon had nothing to do with it and if they fail to meet his demands, he might as well release them, like he did with Chimchar. BlueJirachi 02:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There's a possibility that he would meet Mesprit again and be normal again.--Taviource 02:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


should'nt pauls magmar have it's own page discuss - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talkcontribs)

One tiny appearance does not warrent an article. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
they gave paul's gliscor a page before it's second apperance - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talkcontribs)

BUT GLISCOR DIDN"T APPEAR IN A TINY FLASHBACK!!!!--KukiTalk 20:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

magmar still demonstrated 2 attacks and was in a gym battle - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talkcontribs)

Gliscor was the focus of a whole episode, reappeared, and showed 3 attacks. U HAVE NO REASONS--KukiTalk 22:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The point is that, unless it appears in an episode and not a flashback, then we would make one. But not before it. And sign your posts. It's not that hard.--PsychicRider 22:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Every article should be judged on its own merits. (And this goes for Paul's Pokémon even more than other trainers - we've already reached the consensus not to have an article on Azumarill.) Gliscor could still be deleted now if that conclusion was reached, though even the one episode provided more notability than Magmar has. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 21:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Its appearence in DP100 is probably worth discussing article candidacy at the very least --User:Thingamajig257 |Talk Page| 10:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
My opinion: it does not deserve an article. Why does every Pokémon of a rival character have to get its own article? Yes, he's important to the series, but unless he is in every single episode, he doesn't need a bio of all his Pokémon. In all honesty, I think the only Pokémon of his that need pages are Torterra (being his starter), Chimchar (being his primary Pokémon until its abandonment), and possibly Electabuzz and Ursaring, since they are his "preferred" Pokémon. I still fail to see why his Gliscor and Honchkrow have articles, among others. --PAK Man Talk 13:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Because Paul didn't release them. Magmar's DP100 appearance pretty much confirms that Magmar will be sticking around, and Paul keeping something he captures isn't too common- consider Azumarill, Stantler, and the three Starly. Only the Pokémon that Paul released (or else only were seen for about a second, such as Ninjask) don't deserve articles (and thus, don't have them). So to summarize, we are not suggesting articles for all of Paul's Pokémon; only the ones he actually keeps. And Ash's Chimchar.- unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 19:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

As I see it, when Paul actually uses Magmar in a battle against Ash, or when some information is given about it, then would be the apropriate time to create its article - ElectricArbok, 14:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think the time is now. Magmar has been used in a gym battle against Maylene, seen relaxing in DP100 and now battling against Brandon in DP128. I'd say it's about time it deserves a page. Dilophosaurus Rex 14:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

And NOW, it has evolved! We should give it a page if it doesn't have one, and I'm going to check..... --Catu 21:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
What part of WAIT TIL IT AIRS do we not understand? — THE TROM — 21:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


Should it be included in the Status Unknown? Since he was seen trying to catch one. He looked annoyed after it fled. He wouldn't be annoyed if he only wants to battle it, right?-Billy4b2004 09:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Well if it Fled, It shouldn't be there. --Force Fire 09:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Fearow had also fled but we still have it there. And we don't know if he'll try catching it again like what he did with Fearow. -Billy4b2004 09:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
That's because we don't know if he successfully caught it or even caught it at all. But we do know Drapion fled instead of being Captured, Therefore we know he never succeeded in catching Drapion, and never did try again later in the Episode. --Force Fire 09:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


Why does it keep getting removed?--KukiTalk 16:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Probably due to a question in the Poké mailbag that states that Paul did not succeed in catching the Fearow. Of course, that answer is more than likely dub-biased, there's no such statement made concerning the original Japanese version, and if Paul suddenly shows up with a Fearow in hand...--Shiningpikablu252 17:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that, OK thank you--KukiTalk 17:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...the Pokémon on the "Unknown Status" section are there because we do not know where they are...but what about his Torterra, Weavile, Honchkrow, Gliscor, and Magmar? As of the current episode, we can't be sure if all of them are still with him. So does this go by the last episode he appeared in or by the current episode?--Tavisource 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Last episode of appearance. When he appears again, the whole process is repeated. Jmath 14:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


for not letting me submit my trivia, i have deleted this article and some more - unsigned comment from SuperbowserX (talkcontribs)

No, you just blanked the pages. Easily undone. And it was bad trivia anyway. You couldn't be more in the wrong here. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 15:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

WELL AT LEAST I AM NOT A JERK - unsigned comment from SuperbowserX (talkcontribs)

Oh, like I am? I'm only trying to restore order and peace to Bulbapedia. If that makes me a jerk, you must hate the majority of users here. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 15:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that you should just put this aside. (BTW, What trivia?) - ElectricArbok, 14:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

seriously dont get so fuckin butt hurt by trivia, EVERYONE here has put at least one thing on a page that wasnt good i mean hey ive prolly put at least like 7 ok and i dont care. just let it go not all of your submissions will be accepted Happizelpom 22:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

What Happizelpom said - ElectricArbok, 20:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


We never saw Paul release it from a Pokéball or catch isn't it possible it was a WILD Graveler? So I don't think it should even be here. Unlike Ninjask, we saw him catch it in a Poké the two are vastly different. -Sketch 12:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Right, I was wondering too, but the statement puzzles me whether it's true or not. --×Kevzo8 12:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
But, then again. What made you think it was his.--Clarky13 12:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, with the team already!

DP118 has aired already, and the only Pokémon in it was his Honchkrow. Can we just make a section like May's page and list the most recent roster of Pokemon? -- ElectricArbok, 23:39, 20 March 2009

Not really needed. That note on May's team is because we don't know which of the seven she actually had with her. With Paul, we have five and that's ok. It's just assumed that he keeps the same as last time. — THE TROM — 01:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


is it true that Paul has a Hariyama.. well basically based on DP120...just gasper

It's already in there, just hidden.--FF(editstalk) 08:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Why though. I know that whole "wait till it airs" thing, but it was already shown that it was his. --HoennMaster 14:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Electabuzz and Ursaring

Why does it say that Electabuzz and Ursaring are in "status unknown"? In Lost leader strategy, Reggie told Ash that Paul lets him breed some of his pokemon till Paul needs them in a battle or something. Is it possible, that Electabuzz and Ursaring are at home, but can be called upon at any time (like Ash's Sqirte and Charizard)?--Tomas 17:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Its possible, NOT proven. its Speculation, and we are an encyclopedia, not a amateur site . User:DCM 17:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Can we put this fact in the Trivia or in the page?

Ok, I was watching the DP101 English version. After Barry mentioned Paul, Ash says to himself "that jerk". Can we publish this? - unsigned comment from Subscriber0101 (talkcontribs)

Um... why? --ケンジガール 08:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Subscriber0101 - I find it interesting, and i see that as a important fact.

What's so important about it? We don't need to put "the jerk" or anything else into the article just because someone says it, right? ♥ Csisps_26 (ViSiT) ♥ 15:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

We're gonna have to change the "On Hand" section again...

After watching the DP128 preview, it is clear that Paul uses Hariyama, Magmar, Electabuzz, Nidoking and Ursaring in battle against Brandon. I don't think he would get rid of Torterra, but we're gonna have to move Gliscor, Weavile and Honchkrow to the "Status Unknown" section. Dilophosaurus Rex 14:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait 'til it airs... --Nick., something to say? 14:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Nidoking? --×Impoleon xy× 16:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, in the DP128 preview there is a Nidoking attacking Brandon's Registeel. 99% sure it is Pauls Nidoking. Dilophosaurus Rex 17:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
well I say yes to Dilophosaurus Rex that Paul has a Nidoking it is very clear in the preview and for sure that Paul uses it cause no one is fighting at Brandon except Paul right???? --GASPERshut... 11:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Unless the preview stated that it's Paul's Nidoking, nothing goes anywhere. Brandon could be attacked by a wild Nidoking before fighting Paul for all we know. — THE TROM — 11:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, since Hariyama is already shown as on hand shouldn't the list be updated with Electabuzz and Ursaring. You can't show one Pokémon being on hand based on a preview and not the other two... Watchermark 18:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Also the whole Status "Unknown" seems too weird for me. I mean really Torterra? Almost sounds like he may have released, even if that's not what the status unknown means. --Dman dustin 12:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Page for Magmar?

Isn't it about damn time Paul's Magmar gets a page? Seriously, how many times does it have to appear to get its own page? It appeared in DP066 defeating Maylene's Lucario, it appeared in DP100, it will appear in DP128 fighting against Brandon's Registeel, and according to the latest Bulbanews item, it will even evolve and fight against Ash. That's more than Gliscor and Weavile ever did, and yet they do have pages and Magmar doesn't. Dilophosaurus Rex 18:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Let's see, how much screentime has Magmar actually had? 15 seconds? --HoennMaster 03:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, it is going to get more. J-J-M 05:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
And when it does, we'll do the page. It still isn't confirmed it's the same Pokémon yet. He could have just captured it because it was stronger than Magmar. Wait til it airs. — THE TROM — 05:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Even if it was a different Magmar, why would there be more than one article? I mean the only reason would be if hypothetically Tauros gets an evolution, and one of Ash's Tauros evolves, the Tauros article would remain but a new article would be created for the new evolution. Of course this isn't the case with Paul, it's highly unlikely Paul has more than a few Magmar. --Dman dustin 12:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, and maybe Paul's using a new Torterra because his old one lost to Cynthia's Garchomp. I think that you're just speculating too far. Also, it's going to be a Magmortar by DP131, so we might as well give it a page then. -- ElectricArbok

Pokémon Order

Considering that Paul rotates his main team between 7 pokémon, meaning that at least one of them is always under status unknown, shouldn't those ones be kept up under his on hand pokémon? --HoennMaster 00:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Changing "On Hand" to "Rotated in Team"

Personally, I think we do what Serebii did, and change On Hand to Rotated in Team. Honestly, if Torterra isn't on his team, are we just gonna assume that he could have released it? I just can't see him releasing anyone else. What do you guys think? Master Lucario

We are not Serebii.--ForceFire 02:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
No, but it's a very good idea. I say do it. Reign 21:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


What is wrong with jpg.?They look just fine.--WikiTomas 10:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The preferred format for anime images is PNG. That's why the unsatisfactory tag is up.
However, it's best advised to take fresh PNGs rather than convert existing JPEGs. Converting JPEGs transfers the current quality of the JPEG into the PNG image, and it's best to avoid that except in the most extreme of circumstances. --Shiningpikablu252 16:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I Still don't get why jpg. is worse than png.--WikiTomas 17:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

JPEG is a lossy image format. PNG is lossless. Google or Wiki those terms if you don't understand them. 梅子 18:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Though, it is hard to come by fresh PNGs now a days since no one is making raws of the episodes. So now we most rely on conversion. --ケンジガール 21:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you check the episode threads on 2chan? They tend to post really high-quality caps (as in 1440px width sometimes) while the episode airs. That's just for the newly-aired episodes, though, so... 梅子 22:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

what happened to appereances?

Why was that section deleted?--WikiTomas 14:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Because many users opposed it and were reverted by the one that added them. The user then started calling them "jerks" or "stupid jerks" and was blocked for a week. Besides, they weren't really necessary. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the explanation. - unsigned comment from Tomas (talkcontribs)


"Paul's Nidoking is (so far) the only Pokémon that Paul has to have a confirmed and known gender." Forgive me if im wrong but arent all Nido King's Male. Don Lark Kiin 13:06, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

It's saying that Nidoking is Paul's only Pokémon that has a confirmed gender (it being a male).--ForceFire 13:10, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Generation II

The instance about the majority of Paul's pokemon being related to generation 2 has a mistake, because his magmar is already a magmortar, it should go like this:

"The majority of the Pokémon that Paul has on his team are part of an evolution family related to Generation II.

  • Ursaring was introduced in Generation II.
  • Honchkrow, Weavile, Gliscor and Magmortar are Generation IV Pokémon, but evolve from Generation II
    Pokémon (Murkrow, Sneasel and Gligar, respectively; In the case of Magmortar, its base form is from generation II).
  • Electabuzz was introduced in Generation I, but evolve from a Generation II Pokémon."

Or something like that Luord 23:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

How does Magmar being a Magmortar not make it related to a Generation II Pokemon? Unless one was to say, it was never seen as a Magby.

Jdogno4 (talk) 10:04, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Paul's Weavile

I'd be happy, no, wait, thrilled, to make Paul's Weavile a page. I think that it's notable enough to get one, having appeared in four episodes, almost as many as Magmortar or Honchkrow. I'll just wait for an okay or a red light. ----Zewis29 (Talk, Contribs) 04:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

It actually used to have one. Then it was deemed not notable enough. Yeah. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 02:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I discovered that later. Does that mean yes or no? ----Zewis (29) 20:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Means no. Generally, if a page is deleted for not being notable, it doesn't get recreated. There are exceptions, of course, but I really don't see Paul's Weavile being one of them. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 20:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Got it. I'll look for other needed articles. ----Zewis (29) 15:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


It's clear his Electabuzz evolved. You can see it in the episode screens. So why does it still say he has Electabuzz?--FlareKitsu 19:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Because the episode in question hasn't aired yet. —darklordtrom 19:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
And it could very well be Gary's... ----Zewis29 (Talk, Contribs) 22:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Protection Request

Paul has been confirmed to have Aggron and Drapion VS. Ash, and is reported to be using Froslass, Ninjask, Gastrodon East Sea in addition to Electivire. I'd like to request this page be protected until further confirmation is available. --The Great Butler 05:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Update: pokemon-fan.jpg --The Great Butler 06:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:If we put this in, don't forget to move Ninjask from "Status Unknown." ----Zewis  (29) 20:03, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Question about this, do we assume that Aggron is Lairon, and that the Ninjask is the same one Paul captured in the flashback. You never really know with Paul, he could have released them and captured a different one of the same species. --Burgundy 02:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

no thats speculation (Ataro 02:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC))

Well, you never know. First, Lairon was KO'd instantly by Regice in spite of the type advantage. Next, this IS Paul we're talking about here. The same Paul who caught three Starly just to find one with Aerial Ace. We could at least note that it's not known whether Paul's Aggron is the same Lairon, and put Lairon under Status Unknown. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 16:02, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

because we know the pokemon paul will use durring the battle should his electivire be moved to on hand instead of at home.


Since someone has protected the page can those who as still able to edit, edit that the files shouldn't be "File:Paul's [Enter Pokemon Here].png]] it should be just "File:Paul [Enter Pokemon Name Here].png and edit Paul's Lairon into an Aggron. --DoTheWave 14:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

On hand pokemon

Could you replace Ursaring and Magmortar with Aggron, Gastrodon (East), Drapion, Froslass and Ninjask...? Chomi 17:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Gastrodon's Moves

Ice Beam needs to be added. Burnpsy 21:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

along with body slam and counter shield Ataro 22:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Protection Change

Can we at least change the protection so that at least us established editors can edit? Page needs a tad updating. --HoennMaster 23:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Trivia about being easily beaten twice

Can we add to that that both times Paul had three of his pokemon debut then? (Torterra, Murkrow, Weavile and Lairon, Hariyama, Nidoking)--Burgundy 00:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Aggron know also double-edge

You forgot to add double-edge in aggron attacks that he used in DP186 , his ability was also affirmed to be rock head Amine 03:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

You forgot the comma between double-edge and flash cannon--Burgundy 06:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


I don't understand why it is not "relevent" enough for it's own article, it was used agaist Ash and Cynthia and it also helped Paul catch Gliscor, who has it's own article despite having not appeared since DP088. Lanturn....05308 11:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I actually created a Paul's Weavile page under my user name. If that manages to become a good article, can it be moved to mainspace? Anyone can edit it.--Burgundy 19:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


is it not possible that his drapion is the same drapion used by reggie against brandon? Eevee obsessed 008 01:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

it's completely possible, but its just speculation. it could also be the one Paul was trying to catch a while back but fled.--Burgundy 06:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Did you notice the way Reggie smiled when paul sent it out, and the way it's being made to look stronger than all his other pokemon that have already been defeated, I guess we will fine out next week Lanturn....05308 13:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


Is Aggron worth it's own article? Lanturn....05308 12:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Nope. It's no where near Weavile's notability and even it doesn't have an article --HoennMaster 12:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

about a trivia

"Paul's Nidoking is so far the only Pokémon that Paul has to have a confirmed and known gender, due to its species." this trivia is no longer true because of paul having a froslass now. - unsigned comment from Amine (talkcontribs)

Before someone posts about it...

Drapion is probably not yet notable enough for its own page...--Burgundy 08:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


Ok, so now we know that both reggie and paul each have a drapion, i know that it could be the same blah blah blah, but it would be a nice piece of trivia that despite reggie's drapion failed to defeat brandon in the past, and that paul judges his pokemon by it's strenght, it could be hipocritical (does this word even exist?) that paul uses one in the conference, right?

Not really, considering how he had many Pokemon lose to Cynthia and Brandon and he didn't release them (although we dont know about Hariyama and Nidoking for sure).


Is it notable that Paul has been defeated onscreen only 3 times, and all 3 times he had 3 of his Pokemon debut? (Torterra, Weavile, Murkrow for Cynthia; Lairon, Hariyama, Nidoking for Brandon; and Froslass, Drapion, and Gastrodon for Ash)--Burgundy 12:42, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it's very notable, go ahead, I'm not still autoconfirmed X(--でんのう Zえんし 12:46, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Possible connection to Lake Verity

I know this is already mentioned in the trivia that Paul shares his Japanese name (Shinji) with that of Lake Verity (Shinji lake), but would it be worth mentioning that his somewhat unemotional and rude behavior is the complete opposite of what his name (and Lake Verity) stands for? Or maybe not..... But yeah Lake Verity is centered around faith and emotions, and even though Paul's Japanese name means "faith" he doesn't seem anything of the sort given his rude and seemingly emotionless behavior. (Maybe he touched Mesprit and it drained Paul's emotions!) Kidding! But his name definately may have a connection to Lake Verity, even though his behavior states otherwise. Worth mentioning or not? --Brats817 10:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


Pual owns 15 of the 17 elemental types the most of any trainer in the anime the two he lacks are psychic and dragon Leaf494

Icicle Badge.

Why isn't the icicle badge listed as one of the badges that Paul won? Chadua 01:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I had asked because Candice's article says that she was beaten by Paul, but I can't find any proof of Paul having the Icicle Badge. One of the articles is wrong. Chadua 02:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


has anyone seen paul's pokemon first grab the opponent and then attacking him? --Nazirbashir 08:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Gastrodon's voice

It has already been noted that Gastrodon's japanese voice is uncredited. As for the English voice only Bill Rogers and Marc Thompson are the closest to the voice in the English version. I have no information on me that tells me who voices Gastrodon in the English dub. I still need to find out who it is. If anyone does find a source that says otherwise. Please write and discuss the matter here. Ctc1017 04:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017 04:32, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017

"I have no information on me that tells me who voices Gastrodon in the English dub." Case Closed. --Hikaru Wazana 04:46 15 July 2011

Understood, but the voice has to be written eventually and I have already been warned by other users about putting incorrect English actors for Pokemon. I can't just write it down unless the other users agree that is the voice. Ctc1017 14:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC) Ctc1017


I think that it isn't fair for some of his pokemon to get articles, while others not to. If you're going to make whole articles on some pokemon for their "noteability", than the other ones deserve theirs too. Honestly, we could probably fit Magmortar's information in just one box. Why don't we just give all the pokemon articles, or none at all?Confusion 20:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Paul's Starly

That doesn't sound right! Starly can't have been rejected for only knowing Tackle and Sand-Attack, as it can only learn Sand-Attack by breeding with Skarmory, Farfetch'd, or the Pidgey evolutionary line. Digifiend (talk) 15:56, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

The anime doesn't really pay attention to egg moves. --It's Funktastic~! (talk) 16:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I have seen this episode in both versions, Japanese as well as its dub, and I am pretty sure that the moves are correct. Besides, it is not necessary that the anime must follow games' rules/mechanism, as we have already noticed a few similar events in the past. Anyway, a double check won't hurt anyone. I will try to re-watch the episode later tonight, just in case. AdynizWanna talk? 16:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
It's as Dignified says. The anime doesn't flow directly into the game. In fact, many of ASH'S Pokemon have used multiple moves that can't legitimately learn at all in the games.

His realistic age

I know that this is a while since this was being discussed but if I may say: Presume that each adventure Ash goes through takes a year (i.e. one year travelling through Kanto to compete in the Indigo League, one year in the orange islands to compete against the Orange Crew and then the Champion (Drake), one year travelling through Johto to compete in the Silver League, one year travelling through Hoenn to compete in the Ever Grande League, one year travelling through Kanto again to complete the Battle Frontier and one year in Sinnoh to compete in the Lily of the Valley League), then if he started at 10 then he should be 16 at the end of the Sinnoh Saga (DP191). To say Kanto-10, Orange Islands-11, Johto-12, Hoenn-13, Kanto Battle Frontier-14, Sinnoh-15 and Unova-16 (the ages Ash was when he first journeyed through these regions, note that he travelled through Kanto twice). Paul stated in DP40 that he has competed in the Kanto, Johto and Hoen region League tournaments. So if to travel through a region to obtain the badges and compete in the respective League of that region would take a year: then Paul must have been 10 when he travelled through Kanto, 11 in Johto and 12 in Hoen. Therefore he would have been 13 when he was travelling though Sinnoh and 14 near the end of the Sinnoh Saga (DP191).

To sum up: At the start of the Unnova Saga, Ash should be 16 and Paul should be 14, if they aged a year for each competition they competed in.

Jdogno4 (talk) 10:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

What's your point? It doesn't matter that they "should be" something. It's what "they are" that matters. Ash is, and always will be until further notice, 10, and Paul is unknown. End of story. Ataro (talk) 10:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

With that whole discussion that was going on, I just thought it worthwile to add most likely realistic ages, since people were discussing how old they appear to be. Jdogno4 (talk) 10:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Adding realistic ages is conjecture, guessing and not confirmed therefore is not wanted here. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

the notability of Paul's Pokémon using mega drain.

To be entirely honest I don't think this trivia belongs on Paul's page, because it has almost nothing to do with Paul. I think it's more fitting for the giga drain page. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

It's GIGA Drain, not Mega Drain. But, I like your idea. Thanks! I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 21:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
It's not notable in either page. Now, please, stop adding it. Ataro (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Can you please tell me why? And by the way, BlazikenMaster, please remember to use link templates when adding links that lead to move pages, Pokémon pages, anime character pages, etc. I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 01:44, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
To be entierly honest, I'm confused about those templates and how they work. But I will be using them more often though. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:43, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
That's why I gave you the list. You should probably look through that list and learn them. That's what I did. I am Mikoro (wanna talk?) 19:13, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Weavile's Gender?

I'm aware that the anime is iffy on this but isn't Weavile a "Gender differenced" species? So is that an indication of Paul's Weavile's gender?--Benayla (talk) 04:00, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Lairon -> Aggron

Um... Was it even mentioned anywhere that Paul's Aggron is the same Lairon he used against Brandon? I remember that the lack of a mention in the original BW016 meant that Lenora's Herdier isn't considered to be the Lillipup she previously used. Shouldn't this be the same case? Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... Gengarzilla! 14:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Personally unless the show states otherwise it's reasonable to assume it's the same one. I mean Paul has high standards on what Pokémon he keeps after all. Since he caught a lot of Starly in early episodes and released them, and was only willing to keep one with great moves and stats, it's safe to assume he wouldn't keep too many Pokémon of the same species in storage. Blaze The Movie Fan (talk) 02:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

How do we know it's the same Ninjask?

I mean, there's a flashback of him catching a Ninjask in one episode, and he uses it to battle Ash in another. How do we know for sure that Paul didn't simply catch another? Unowninator (talk) 05:04, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

We don't, same as we don't even know that his Lairon and Aggron are the same, nor do we have proof that Nando's Roselia and Roserade are the same or even that May's Bulbasaur and Venasaur are the same. In all cases, they likely are the same but in cases such as Lenora's Herdier; an admin would have made a decision on it. If an administrator makes a decision and then later finds out it was wrong, they don't usually go back on their decision and admit they are wrong; that is why inconsistencies Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:54, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
It was stated that Herdier and Lillipup are separate, whereas all those examples you've listed weren't stated to be separate. Guessing that Paul caught another Ninjask (even if it is his nature to catch more than one of the same species) is speculation is far less farfetched speculation that assuming it's the same Pokemon. It's called common sense.--ForceFire 16:14, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Herdier was never stated to be different nor the same, I fact the Lenoa's page on here makes that clear. Nevermind though, I'm not going to tackle the flimsy subject of "common sense" Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 16:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Uh, they specifically said that her Lillipup evolved into Herdier. Unowninator (talk) 18:19, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
They said so in the dub, but not in the original; the original says nothing to support either possibility, exactly like all my examples above where Force Fire so patronizingly told us "common sense" would give us the answer. Sometimes he likes to use "don't assume" despite the "don't assume" and "common sense" 'rules' (Not really rules, just things that Force Fire says) contradict each other. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 18:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Um, no Paul never respected Ash.

For a lot of the history section, it says that Paul has gained his respect for Ash with time. But that is wrong. I'm sorry but I have to point out blatant misinformation in the article.

He never respected him. In fact even in the final battle in the league he still calls him pathetic. And yes, he did admit he had a good battle with him two times, but that does not mean he started respecting his style, and admit he's a great trainer, since he never did.

How do I know his negative opinion on Ash remains the same throughout the Sinnoh series? It's because I have watched the entire series and take context into account, and when I do that, I can clearly see that no, he never started liking Ash.

Oh and that scene where Paul is impressed by Ash's Infernape is taken out of context. He's impressed by how powerful he's gotten, he never said that Ash raised him well. Blaze The Movie Fan (talk) 02:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

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