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Mismagius doesn't really look very feminine to me. Not like Misdreavus does. Wouldn't that piece of trivia be more accurate in the Misdreavus article? [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]]
Mismagius doesn't really look very feminine to me. Not like Misdreavus does. Wouldn't that piece of trivia be more accurate in the Misdreavus article? [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]]
: Not entirely; while it may not look feminine to you, it certainly does to others. It's like saying Honchrow isn't overtly masculine despite being based on a mafia godfather. I'm not here to start a petty edit-war (too late), I just think it's appropriate for the trivia section. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 15:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
: Not entirely; while it may not look feminine to you, it certainly does to others. It's like saying Honchrow isn't overtly masculine despite being based on a mafia godfather. I'm not here to start a petty edit-war (too late), I just think it's appropriate for the trivia section. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 15:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::Opinionated. Gardevoir is an exception. It most certainly DOES look like a woman, but Mismagius can go either way.[[User:Totodilesentret|[[User:Totodilesentret|<font color="blue">Totodile</font><font color="brown">sentret!</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Totodilesentret|<font color="gold">Talk to me.</font>]]]] 15:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::Opinionated. Gardevoir is an exception. It most certainly DOES look like a woman, but Mismagius can go either way.[[User:Totodilesentret|<font color="blue">Totodile</font><font color="brown">sentret!</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Totodilesentret|<font color="gold">Talk to me.</font>]]</sup> 15:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::: What is above me is also an opinion, and Gardevoir can be seen as a masculine creature if the beholder wishes. My entire point is that this IS trivial, just a little quirk that's worth mentioning, especially now considering the circumstances. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 15:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::: What is above me is also an opinion, and Gardevoir can be seen as a masculine creature if the beholder wishes. My entire point is that this IS trivial, just a little quirk that's worth mentioning, especially now considering the circumstances. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 15:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Just for the record, there is a proper term for a male witch.  They're typically called "warlocks".  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Just for the record, there is a proper term for a male witch.  They're typically called "warlocks".  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, warlocks were typically more experienced, male witches. Males could be plain old witches too. Has ANYBODY here heard of the Salem Witch Trials?[[User:Totodilesentret|&#91;&#91;User:Totodilesentret&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;Totodile&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;brown&quot;&gt;sentret!&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Totodilesentret&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;Talk to me.&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93;]] 17:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, warlocks were typically more experienced, male witches. Males could be plain old witches too. Has ANYBODY here heard of the Salem Witch Trials?[[User:Totodilesentret|<font color="blue">Totodile</font><font color="brown">sentret!</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Totodilesentret|<font color="gold">Talk to me.</font>]]</sup> 17:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm going to skip the opinion part of this war and just ask an honest question: Why does the idea of Mismagius being cosidred femanine disturb you so much? It's nothing more than simple trivia. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 17:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm going to skip the opinion part of this war and just ask an honest question: Why does the idea of Mismagius being cosidred femanine disturb you so much? It's nothing more than simple trivia. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 17:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:Ending this. Now. Nobody cares if it looks masculine or feminine. That is NOT what users come to the page to find out. Instead of being very counterproductive, and trying to backseat-mod each other, direct your focus to any of the articles on this site that need work that DO NOT relate to what a Pokemon looks like. And honestly, this is coming from ME, a 21 year old guy who doesn't play Pokemon at all, but only joined so I could easier help my friend make a pokemon ROM hack. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 17:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:Ending this. Now. Nobody cares if it looks masculine or feminine. That is NOT what users come to the page to find out. Instead of being very counterproductive, and trying to backseat-mod each other, direct your focus to any of the articles on this site that need work that DO NOT relate to what a Pokemon looks like. And honestly, this is coming from ME, a 21 year old guy who doesn't play Pokemon at all, but only joined so I could easier help my friend make a pokemon ROM hack. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 17:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Backsprite ==
== Backsprite ==


[[File:Spr b g4 429.png]]
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The normal 4th generation backsprite has a bunch of random dark-purple pixels on it. Does anyone else see them, and why are they there?
The normal 4th generation backsprite has a bunch of random dark-purple pixels on it. Does anyone else see them, and why are they there? {{unsigned|Flyingtypefan}}


== Mumargi or Mumage? ==
== Mumargi or Mumage? ==
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While Bulbapedia lists ''Mumargi'' as the trademarked romaji, ''Mumage'' is used in several Bulbapedia articles. Is this deliberate? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
While Bulbapedia lists ''Mumargi'' as the trademarked romaji, ''Mumage'' is used in several Bulbapedia articles. Is this deliberate? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
:[http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/E/Enperuto/20120813/20120813154607.jpg It's Mumargi.] The pages that use Mumage do so because nobody changed them when the official romanization was found.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 14:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
:[http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/E/Enperuto/20120813/20120813154607.jpg It's Mumargi.] The pages that use Mumage do so because nobody changed them when the official romanization was found.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 14:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
==Torso==
I would just like to say that the "round lump" midway down Mismagius's neck is actually a torso. If it had limbs, that's where they would be.
[[User:Sirspykerks|Sirspykerks]] ([[User talk:Sirspykerks|talk]]) 17:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
:That's a big guess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:28, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
::It's more accurate than a "circular lump." Considering the "skirt" at the bottom of the design, Mismagius is an armless hourglass-shape humanoid figure. [[User:Sirspykerks|Sirspykerks]] ([[User talk:Sirspykerks|talk]]) 19:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see where the confusion comes from now. That's not a skirt, that's more patterned after a cloak or robe. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
:I feel stupid now, but thanks for clearing that up:  :) [[User:Sirspykerks|Sirspykerks]] ([[User talk:Sirspykerks|talk]]) 21:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
==Mumargi?==
Is it possible the kanji don't translate to Mumarji, but rather, Mumaji? Mumarji doesn't make much sense, and Mumaji could be adding "magi" (the plural form of the word "magus" which was then translated as "mage" somewhere down the line? It would also make more sense if it was a mix of Muma and Magic, since there's no r in magic. It could also thus be a mix of "majin" or devil. Finally, when I ran the kanji through Google Translate (yes, I know, not reliable, but where did Mumarji come from? Is there a source for that translation that I missed?) it translated it to "
Muumāji". Thoughts? --[[User:MiasmicSiren|MiasmicSiren]] ([[User talk:MiasmicSiren|talk]]) 00:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Update: I saw the...I'm not even sure what it is, but, are we sure that thing is official? It looks more like some fanart, which is probably mistranslated. Even the note when hovering over the kanji says Muumāji. --[[User:MiasmicSiren|MiasmicSiren]] ([[User talk:MiasmicSiren|talk]]) 02:19, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Update 2: Huh, so it's just the quality, and it's an official page of a manga. Guessing one of the Colored Scroll ones? Well, now I know.--[[User:MiasmicSiren|MiasmicSiren]] ([[User talk:MiasmicSiren|talk]]) 06:36, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:The official romanizations are used fairly universally. The [https://assets.pokemon.com//assets/cms2-en-uk/pdf/play-pokemon/rules/wc12-battle-dictionary.pdf Worlds 2012 Battle Dictionary] contains the official romanizations for every Pokémon that exists in Generation V (except Mythical Pokémon introduced in Generation V), if you're ever uncertain about whether a particular romanization is official.
:Google Translate will only ever give you the Hepburn romanization (in the transliteration section) and possibly some kind of guess at a translation (which is not what we're interested in here). The official romanizations are chosen by The Pokémon Company to reflect the etymology of the Pokémon names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)