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{{Forme info|648{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: i}} mod 2}}|1=P}}.png|Normal|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: i}} mod 2}}|0=psychic|1=fighting}}|[[Form differences#Meloetta|Meloetta's forms]]|Meloetta as though it were in {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: i}} mod 2}}|0=Aria Forme|1=Pirouette Forme}}. However, this cannot be accurately reproduced here|the type-themed color displays, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden, and the moves noted as [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for this Pokémon|minute}}
==Evolution section==
==Evolution section==
Shouldn't we change the header to "Forme Change" on Pokémon like this and {{p|Shaymin}}? It's not technically correct, and really threw me for a loop when I noticed the header. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 01:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't we change the header to "Forme Change" on Pokémon like this and {{p|Shaymin}}? It's not technically correct, and really threw me for a loop when I noticed the header. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 01:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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:::No. It means, with "-Etta" meaning little in italian and "Melo" coming from Melody, It could literally mean "Little (-Etta) Melody (Melo)"--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#444444">'''F'''</span>]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#858585">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''F'''</span>]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#D8D8D8">ire</span>]] 11:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
:::No. It means, with "-Etta" meaning little in italian and "Melo" coming from Melody, It could literally mean "Little (-Etta) Melody (Melo)"--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#444444">'''F'''</span>]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#858585">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''F'''</span>]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#D8D8D8">ire</span>]] 11:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
ok, maybe it could be reworded [[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 13:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
ok, maybe it could be reworded [[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 13:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
This may be a long shot, but does anyone else think Meloetta's headband thingy look a lot like Concordia's hair? [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Anthea_and_Concordia_Adventures.png Like this?] Im good at coming up with alternate, plausible but completely wrong explanations for things though. So it may just be me. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 04:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:Looks more like a {{wp|clef|treble clef}} to me. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 05:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:: I understand the Opera and Italian comparisons, but I see some Spanish dancer elements incorporated into her Pirouette Forme design [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sargent_John_Singer_Spanish_Dancer.jpg this] and defiantly [http://nicholsonfinearts.com/Spanish%20Dancer.jpg this]
:: Also Meloetta might just as well be a combination of Melody and a corruption of "Senorita." Another plausible corruption is "Lolita" Meloetta and Melolita read about the same.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 01:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


== Fact Mentioned Twice ==
== Fact Mentioned Twice ==
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== Anime appearance  ==
== Anime appearance  ==


Now that we know the Meloetta will appear in the Pikachu Short, [[PK23|Meloetta's Glittery Recital]], can an administrator please add an anime section with this information? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 05:54, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Now that we know the Meloetta will appear in the Pikachu Short, [[PK24|Meloetta's Glittery Recital]], can an administrator please add an anime section with this information? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 05:54, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 05:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 05:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, but the top of the page still says "Along with Genesect, Meloetta has not been officially revealed by Nintendo." Should this be updated to "Meloetta has not been officially revealed by Nintendo until February 25, 2012," please? Thanks. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 2:36, 26 February, 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, but the top of the page still says "Along with Genesect, Meloetta has not been officially revealed by Nintendo." Should this be updated to "Meloetta has not been officially revealed by Nintendo until February 25, 2012," please? Thanks. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 2:36, 26 February, 2012 (UTC)
:::I wouldn't call it a "reveal". It was more like a leak. Just like how finding its coding in the game is a leak. No one has openly come out and said, "Here, have a new Pokémon!" <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 07:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Just pointing out the [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Meloetta_quietly_revealed_in_M15_poster Bulbanews article] stating that it was officially revealed on Pokémon Smash! - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 19:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::That was a mistake. I watched the entirety of Smash and they never mentioned it. The poster was leaked on a website that has since taken it down. So they never ''said'' anything about Meloetta. She's just got a picture on a poster for now. That's not a reveal, it is a leak. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 20:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Really? Then yeah, it's not official. I knew it had been leaked yesterday, though I assumed it had then been used on Smash! afterwards. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 20:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree with Jo The Marten [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 05:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
== In the anime section edit request ==
PK24 should be linked as just [[PK24]], and not ''[[PK24|Meloetta's Glittery Recital]]'', since it's not confirmed to be the short's English name. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 21:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
== Headpiece ==
I believe the head piece also incorporates elements of a [http://suzifiner.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54edc7dcf88330133ee41ab64970b-800wi G clef], especially the tail of the clef. It is reversed when viewed from the front on Pirouette Forme, but correct when looking at it on Aria Forme. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 17:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
:Oops. Edited Step Forme to Pirouette Forme. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 17:41, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
== Relic Song? ==
I noticed something on this page isn't obvious enough... ... I don't get. If I get a Meloetta in Aria Forme and it uses Relic Song to change to Perouette forme, will it change back to Aria forme if a get it in the PokéBall or do I need to use Relic Song to change it back? Could somebody please add the answer of my question to the page. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] 18:46, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:It goes back to Aria Forme when put back in its Poké Ball. It says so on the article: "It reverts to Aria Forme when switched out or the battle ends." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
::Which means this is currently wrong:
::''"Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Meloetta''
::''Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution or alternate form of Meloetta"''
::Since Aria is Psychic and Pirouette is Fighting, it's Psychic that's the default form's type and therefore should be bold and Fighting that's the alternate and so should be in italic, not the other way around. There's no need for that to alternate. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 23:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
== Sugimori art ==
Meloetta's Sugimori art is now on the Archives.. so could a mod change the images in the infobox now? --[[User:S2daam|--samm :)]] 15:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
== Shiny Origin/Reference? ==
Meloetta's Aria form when it is shiny reminds me of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsune_Miku Miku Hatsune] and I wonder if they could have referred to Miku Hatsune by making its shiny form the same colors as her?
Some reasoning next to that is that Miku Hatsune is a singing program, so it fits in with Meloetta, Vocaloid (I think) originates from Japan, and I believe Vocaloid is rather popular in Japan. Anyone else agree and think it's worthy to not of on her page? » [[User:Lilura|£ilurα]] -[[User Talk:Lilura|τ]]- -[[Special:Contributions/Lilura|¢]]- 01:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
:My vague understanding (based on the discussions on {{p|Keldeo}}'s talk page) is that the Bulbapedia admins would like to avoid mentioning copyrighted works in the reference sections unless the reference is almost certainly intentional (such as Tyranitar/Godzilla). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
== Revealed early ==
I own the Pokémon handbook with the cover like [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511WPIUhy5L.jpg this.] On page 50-51, it shows a list of Pokémon for Easy Chat, and guess what? Meloetta and Keldeo were on the list. Just saying it might have been leaked early. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] 21:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
:Would you mind taking a photo, or scanning it so we can see? <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
== Meloetta the True KamiTrio Master ==
Shouldn't Meloetta be considered the Kami Trio's true master. Yeah its just in the anime, but we consider Lugia the bird trio's master and that was in a movie.
Plus as Ho-oh proves, you don't have to be in the same form or species as the trio to be their master; after all, Ho-oh is the master for the beast trio and its a bird, not a dog/cat or beast. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
== Pokedex 3D Pro says the gender is UNKNOWN, not Genderless. ==
Can someone edit the Meloetta articles or do I have to do everything myself? In fact, why is Meloetta's gender unknown anyway? You'd think Scientist would have identified her by now. ([[User:Meloetta&#39;sbiggestfan|Meloetta&#39;sbiggestfan]] ([[User talk:Meloetta&#39;sbiggestfan|talk]]) 17:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)).Meloetta'sbiggestfan
:It says that for '''all''' Pokemon with unknown genders. Either way, it doesn't confirm that it actually has one.  [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:12, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I still think Meloetta is a girl because of the animie and the fact that Meloetta looks like a girl in the games as well. {{unsigned|Meloetta'sbiggestfan}}
:Whether you ''think'' it is or not is irrelevant. Meloetta is canonically genderless, so that's what's in our article. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Also, please sign your talk page comments with four tildes (~) so the timestamp shows up. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
== Regarding UK Pre-Orders ==
I would have posted this on the talk page of the Bulbanews article, but I'm having difficulties changing my email address, so I could not create the talk page. Seeing as the article seemed so unclear as to whether or not these reports are true, I can confirm that the GAME branch in York is one of the shops requiring you to pre-order X & Y to receive Meloetta. Besides the image pictured in the article, two more information sheets were at either side, largely claiming the same statement about pre-ordering, if I remember correctly. Naturally, I tried seeing if I could connect with Mystery Gift regardless, but it could not get a signal. I do not have image proof, nor can I obtain it, as I only visit York when I go to college, which is now closed for Easter. I simply figured extra clarification from a UK resident would be of use. <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 21:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)