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== Title translation == | == Title translation == | ||
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach. | I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach. | ||
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:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC) | :::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof. | :Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof. | ||
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]] | <!--[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]--> | ||
Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it. | Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it. | ||
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OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts. | OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts. | ||
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]] | <!--[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]--> | ||
Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture. | Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture. | ||
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:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc><small>I think thats the right Episode </small></sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | :: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc><small>I think thats the right Episode </small></sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach. | : Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach. | ||
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]] | <!--[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]--> | ||
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | [[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
i think the pokemon under the big ? was the pichu | |||
==is it just me?== | ==is it just me?== | ||
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<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster | <!--Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg-->|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster | ||
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster | <!--Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG-->|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | :::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
piplup is in there. oh, and the johto starters (possible referance to HG/SS? anyway, I just watched it in english... because it 4 days till release, does this mean it gonna be shown on cartoon network? shaymin, darkrai, alice, her chimchar and tonio, baron alberto with his likiliky and zero, newton graceland and infi (the hologirl) all appear in the credits, should this be mentioned?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 20:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Merchandise == | == Merchandise == | ||
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:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | :......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
the bronzong is the guy with the funny head dress's and monferno is released from ash's pokeball, and his staraptor already evloved. his chimchar may have done too--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 20:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Pichu == | == Pichu == | ||
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I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
heatran is in it. its got a harness on it and look like a big bug--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 20:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== World Hobbo Fair == | == World Hobbo Fair == | ||
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== Image == | == Image == | ||
Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. [[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]] <span style="color:#AAAAFF;"><sub>*</sub></span><span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC">[[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#DAA520;">tc</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#DAA520;">26</span>]]</span><span style="color:#AAAAFF;"><sub>*</sub></span> 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC) | Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. <!--[[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]]--> <span style="color:#AAAAFF;"><sub>*</sub></span><span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC">[[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#DAA520;">tc</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#DAA520;">26</span>]]</span><span style="color:#AAAAFF;"><sub>*</sub></span> 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#B8B8D0">vz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#705898">o8</span>]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC) | :[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#B8B8D0">vz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#705898">o8</span>]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Pokémon.com confirms "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and has an English poster. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | Pokémon.com confirms "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and has an English poster. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Ok did someone change it?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | :Ok did someone change it?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Since the title's confirmed, could someone unprotect it? [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 18:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Sure, let's try that. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Poster == | == Poster == | ||
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Image. | Image. | ||
[[File:Arceus and the Jewel of Life. | <!--[[File:Arceus and the Jewel of Life.png|thumb|left|230px|English Poster]]--> | ||
[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 04:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 04:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:A higher resolution copy would be prefered. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | :A higher resolution copy would be prefered. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Unfortunately, that's all Pokemon.com gave us... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ::Unfortunately, that's all Pokemon.com gave us... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::There are these but they're just stretched and pixelated [http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p current] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more] --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 23:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Where are the Johto Starters? == | |||
Okay, so it's been in the news for months that Chikorita, Totodile, and Cyndaquil are going to appear in the movie. However, in the synopsis and trailers, they are nowhere to be seen. Are they in the real movie, or is there a Pikachu short that they appeared in? In other words, exactly where are they? {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}} | |||
:Chikorita and Cyndaquil help Gishin's soldiers prepare food according to [[Gishin's soldiers|this article]]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' ''http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png'''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Spiky Eared Pichu Cover-Up== | |||
If you check the Movie Poster on www.pokemon.com right now, you'd notice that Pichu has been removed. And now they're advertising this "mysterious Pokemon" that we know is the Spiky Eared Pichu. It's an interesting bit of trivia, I guess.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== US Realease date REVEALED !!! == | |||
Hey guys, Pokémon Movie 12 - Arceus and the Jewel of Life is going to release in 2009 (this year), officially confirmed by pokemon.com . I want to edit this page but it is protected (Locked) by admins ( The dark lord trombonator ). So admins please change the US release year and replace SPRING 2010 with 2009 (End of the year). You can check it out yourself, here is the link http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag . Read the full mail bag. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 05:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Uh, not really. The mailbag guy ''thinks'' it'll air this year... I think we should hold out for something more concrete before it's changed. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 05:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::''"Actually, we don't just think, we know"'', are you just about that? '''[[User:Myles|<font color="#5588DD">My</font><font color="#4477CC">l</font><font color="#3366B0">e</font><font color="#2255AA">s</font>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]])</sup> 05:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Zesty Cactus, read the full sentence "Actually, we don't just think, we know". Now tell me what does that mean? --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 06:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::What do you think it means when an '''official from The Pokémon Company International''' says:''"Actually, we don't just think, we know."'' Duh. If they said that about Heartgold and Soulsilver, ''everyone'' would be all over it. ZestyCactus, it means that it's confirmed. It's obvious. [[User:Alec9|<font color="11bb11">''alec'''9'''''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|<font color="6890f0">*</font>]] <small> [[User talk:Alec9|<font color="000000">-</font>]] </small> [[Gallade (Pokémon)|<font color="6890f0">*</font>]] 17:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== A theatrical release? == | |||
Okay, so if the US premier of Arceus and the Jewel of Life is late 2009, and its DVD release is Spring 2010, then why is that? Does that mean that there is going to be a 3-month hiatus between the TV premier and the DVD, or that the movie will be released theatrically in the US as well? After all, there is usually a 3- to 5-month break between a movie and its DVD. Please correct me if I am wrong. {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}} | |||
:I doubt it'll get a theatrical release, the difference is probably either a discrepancy in when the movie's gonna come out, or there's gonna be a couple months' gap between the TV premiere and the DVD release. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 20:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::It was like that with Giratina and the Sky Warrior too. I remember watching it on Cartoon Network when it first premiered, and then the DVD came out a month or so after: | |||
'''Premiere''': Japan July 19, 2008 | |||
United States February 13, 2009 | |||
'''Home video''': Japan December 19, 2008 | |||
United States March 31, 2009 | |||
It was actually released in Japanese on DVD months after it was released in English, considering the time inbetween premiere and DVD. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:The Rise of Darkrai was aired in February 2008, and the DVD came out in May 2008. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Would this be bad to do? == | |||
Just to protect the page just for a week? In case people add in false dub names. Or anything else?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 00:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Australian premire :D == | |||
This is a Bulbanews article about it and it say it will air at 6pm Australian edst and the 6 nov 2009 (HOORAY)is it worth mentioning? :)[[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah. Somewhere. I'll find a place. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
thx for that and the other help too :D [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
::The guy is right. I think it should be placed in the "released date box". If anybody wants citation proof then here it is http://www.cartoonnetwork.com.au/tv/schedule/index.php . This is the offcial schedule of CN Austrailia and it clearly shows that Pokemon Movie 12 is going to air on 6th November (Friday). --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 13:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::One problem though, is that for some strange reason [[Template:MovieInfobox|the template]] thinks (if a template can truly ''think'') that ratings outside of Japan and the US are more important than their premiere dates. '''[[User:Myles|<font color="#5588DD">My</font><font color="#4477CC">l</font><font color="#3366B0">e</font><font color="#2255AA">s</font>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]])</sup> | |||
== I need your opinion. == | |||
The movie poster is the only poster so far to have the same pokémon on it, Arceus. It just caught my eye. I know it sounds silly.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 03:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Protect on the 6th== | |||
Maybe you guys should protect this page on the 6th. Once the mpvie airs in Australia, it will obviously make it's way to the internet and then from there, this page will go chaos with people editing. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 01:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:'pedia's gonna be closed for editing then anyway. If the maintenance is completed early, and the page goes spastic, we'll close it then and not before. I'm not one to stand in the way of good-faith contributors. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Is it just me? == | |||
Or at some part of the movie when Spiky-Ear Pichu is talking it says Pikachu? [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 00:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
::no - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 01:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Pikachu dies? Really? == | |||
I wouldn't go so far as to say that any of Ash and co. actually die in the movie, they simply begin phasing back out of time a la Back to the Future. Standard fair for any time travel movie really, so I don't know why anyone assumed that they had been dying during the whole sequence. The point of the whole thing was that Arceus was the one to die, therefore removing their reason for having come back to begin with, thus they started to phase back to their own time to merge the divergent timelines.{{unsigned|Nonasuomi}} | |||
== I don't want to be picky about it. == | |||
Does Pikachu die in the movie or no? B/c the summary says that the future will not exist and they will not exist too. So it is also implying that everyone was "dying". I want to get things straight. B/c the English dub did not really mention them dying expect Arceus.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 07:29, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Not existing like in the movie due to the effects of time travel is not really the same as dying. <span style="font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%"><sup>[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]]</sup>[[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#e03828;">²₆</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]]<sub>[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|<span style="color:#e03828;">26</span>]]</sub></span> 07:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:This is not dying, beleive me. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:05, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Big talk == | |||
Should this be archived? I'm getting that notice saying it's really big... '''[[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cubone</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Green">King</font>]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">Planet Cubone</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">Bone Club</font>]]) 03:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, it's getting too big.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC) | |||