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::'' 'regular' ''? Such Segregation (said in an overly dramatic way)[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 03:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | ::'' 'regular' ''? Such Segregation (said in an overly dramatic way)[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 03:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::Well, there's a very large difference. Regular Pokémon appear in everything Pokémon-related. Glitch Pokémon don't appear in anything else but the games because they were never intended to be seen by anyone but the programmers. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 04:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | :::Well, there's a very large difference. Regular Pokémon appear in everything Pokémon-related. Glitch Pokémon don't appear in anything else but the games because they were never intended to be seen by anyone but the programmers. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 04:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Weight divisions == | == Weight divisions == | ||
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:I know this is a relatively old discussion, but it is interesting and I think it is of value and that some research could go into this. --[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 03:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | :I know this is a relatively old discussion, but it is interesting and I think it is of value and that some research could go into this. --[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 03:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Phione missing == | |||
Can some one please put Phione back because it's missing, help edit it if there are any mistakes. Thank you. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 08:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It's not missing, and as far as I can tell it wasn't missing when you posted this. Use CTRL+F to find it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:46, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_weight&diff=1929643&oldid=1922422 The change] was made soon after he made this section.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 06:01, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Didn't realize until now that the page history diffs go by the viewer's local time zone, while talk page signatures go by UTC. I was under the impression that the most recent edit to the page was about four hours before this user's comment. Sorry about that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
Thanks people! [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 03:46, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Sprite Error == | |||
For Barbaracle's sprite it shows Slaking instead of a question mark (since we don't have its sprite yet). Can someone fix this? [[User:AwesomeGrovyle|AwesomeGrovyle]] ([[User talk:AwesomeGrovyle|talk]]) 20:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I think it has been fixed. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 02:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Shinx and Gourgeist == | |||
What's wrong with the weight table, Shinx has the name of Small Size Gourgeist and not Shinx, could someone fix it? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 09:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:The variable name was off, using n1 instead of n3. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 21:08, 27 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Should Shedninja be in a different section? == | |||
Shedinja is in the section takes 20 power damage from low kick and grass knot. But shedinja is immune to those moves because of wonder guard. So.... where does it go? [[User:Boorider7|Boorider7]] ([[User talk:Boorider7|talk]]) 13:41, 27 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:You could also ask the same about any {{t|Ghost}} Pokemon (immune to Low Kick) or Pokemon with {{a|Sap Sipper}} (immune to Grass Knot). (Short answer: it'd get way too confusing, not gonna happen.) At any rate, it's not impossible to get around {{a|Wonder Guard}} (or a Ghost immunity or Sap Sipper). But the most important thing is really, this page is a list '''ordered by weight'''; the consequences of that are secondary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:53, 27 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Skitty is listed twice. == | |||
Because of how the table is created, entire table has to be altered to fix this. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 13:47, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Fixed. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Split? == | |||
I was thinking whether to split "Weight" off this page. In contrast to height, it is a game mechanic, and with a proper article, we could reduce the text on Autotomize's article, for example. I don't know if it's exhaustive enough for an independent article, so I'd like to have another opinion before actually tagging it. I personally think page size shouldn't really be an issue (for example, [[grounded]] is pretty much needed imo). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Forms == | |||
Just wondering, what's the standard for displaying forms on this page? Obviously, we separate them out when their weight changes between forms, but when they stay the same, the page varies between displaying them on timers (eg. Oricorio, Wormadam, Gastrodon), not displaying them at all (eg. Keldeo, Rotom, Burmy), or separating them out anyways (eg. Greninja, Core Form Minior before I changed it the other day). Castform in particular shows its forms on a timer on the height page, but not at all on this one. I know it's probably not practical to show Pokémon with lots of forms (Unown, Arceus) or only minor differences (Pichu) on timers (I was actually under the impression that we stopped using timers like this a while back, apparently not). | |||
Additionally, is there a reason Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist have their form names displayed in line instead of as subscripts? "Mega", "Alolan", "Ash-" I can understand, but Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist sizes don't seem to fit with those, or maybe I'm just being picky. | |||
This concern also applies to [[List of Pokémon by height]] and any similar pages, I guess--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 18:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
:I'm kind of more surprised we switch Meloetta's forms than that Keldeo and such don't have any forms included. If we do Meloetta, go ahead and do it for the Keldeo group too. | |||
:Part of me kind of wonders if we should be showing Ash-Greninja. Like, we don't show Cosplay Pikachu or Spiky-eared Pichu in any way. (I can't think off the top of my head if there are any other similar examples.) | |||
:(FYI, the switches were mostly a concern on Pokemon pages.) | |||
:The names should be more or less official usage or something. If you've got a specific counter-example, I'll look it all over more closely. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Totem Pokémon and template trouble == | |||
[[Totem Pokémon]] and the totem-sized Pokémon available in USUM have different weights from their normal-sized counterparts, so they ought to be listed separately here like any other form that affects weight. The only problem, then, is that the {{template|weight/entry}} template rather inelegantly pulls the form names from a lookup table according to the menu sprite used, rather than allowing the form names to be defined in their own parameter like the display names (which have parameters <code>n1</code> through <code>n6</code>). You can already see the effects of this with Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist—since the different sizes don't have different menu sprites, the article has | |||
:'''Average Size Pumpkaboo''' | |||
rather than the more reasonable | |||
:'''Pumpkaboo'''<br><small>''Average Size''</small> | |||
And I feel like "Totem-sized Alolan Marowak" would be really clumsy-looking in bold text. The best solution would be to add another parameter to {{template|weight/entry}} (probably <code>f1</code> through <code>f6</code>) to provide form names, and do away with the menu-sprite lookup table. (And while we're at it, {{template|height/entry}} could use the same treatment.) I'd probably be figuring out how to this myself if the templates weren't both protected. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 20:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! == | |||
In the new games, Pokémon can have different weight than the Average weight for a species. I was going to add something, but I'm not quite sure how to put it in there with the fact that I don't know if it affects any game mechanics. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 00:56, 25 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Merging 3 identical sections? == | |||
The following sections have the same properties: | |||
204.8 kg to 209.9 kg | |||
210.0 kg to 279.9 kg | |||
280.0 kg to 299.9 kg | |||
Shouldn't we merge them? [[User:Y2110|Y2110]] ([[User talk:Y2110|talk]]) 14:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
Unless there's a way to actually set these three apart, I'd say yeah, we can merge them. --[[User:Flashlight237|Flashlight237]] ([[User talk:Flashlight237|talk]]) 17:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Those sections were distinguished due to [[Weight#Other|the "Compare" section of the Pokémon X and Y Pokédex]]. However, it's probably not necessary to split the sections on this page on that basis, when that distinction is incredibly trivial and not even noted on this page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Hariyama == | |||
Hariyama isn't listed here, can someone put it on this page? | |||
[[User:Yourmommy|Yourmommy]] ([[User talk:Yourmommy|talk]]) 00:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
:It's there, under the [[List of Pokémon by weight#451.5 lbs. to 661.2 lbs. .28204.8 kg to 299.9 kg.29|451.5 lbs. to 661.2 lbs. .28204.8 kg to 299.9 kg.29 section]]. If a Pokemon is too hard to find in this large article, you can try ctrl+f the article to find what you're looking for.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:54, 30 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Official site == | |||
[https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/play/pokedex This Pokedex site] can list Pokemon by weight and is putting all gigantamax Pokemon before the rest for some reason in order from heaviest: | |||
:Centiskorch - Duraludon - Coalossal - Inteleon - Snorlax - Meowth - Grimmsnarl - Alcremie - Urshifu RS - Charizard - Rillaboom - Cinderace - Hatterene - Urshifu SS - Blastoise - Machamp - Venusaur - Lapras - Drednaw - Flapple - Appletun - Toxtricity AF - Toxtricity LKF - Copperajah - Sandaconda - Pikachu - Garbodor - Gengar - Kingler - Eevee - Butterfree - Corviknight - Orbeetle | |||
Their property is set as: "data-weight="999.99", but I still don't know what creates this particular order.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 19:02, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
: If you go to the actual pages, the weight is listed as "???.?". That's most likely why they are listed first. Why they are listed in that particular order is probably irrelevant as there are numerous cases of identically weighted Pokémon and they have to go in some kind of order and what that order ends up being is likely just determined by whatever sort/search method they used. [[User:Exempt-Medic|Exempt-Medic]] ([[User talk:Exempt-Medic|talk]]) 19:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Oh oops, missed the data-weight variable, found it now. Ignore my first point. {{unsigned|Exempt-Medic}} | |||
:::They are listed by height. Sort it by "Highest Height (First)" and you will get the same order. Reason for it is probably because they cannot just not list them. '''[[User:Oneofthosedf|<span style="color:#D64933">Oneofthosedf</span>]] [[User talk:Oneofthosedf|<span style="color:#2877AC">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oneofthosedf|<span style="color:#64B823">(contribs)</span>]]''' 20:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::Oh, that's right. Thanks.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 09:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC) | |||