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== Type of move ==
== Type of move ==
Is it dependant on a plate being held or the type of the user as it can be used by any Pokémon knowing metronome by chance. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 09:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it dependant on a plate being held or the type of the user as it can be used by any Pokémon knowing metronome by chance. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 09:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
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Well, since this is about the move, and in the game it is spelled without the extra e, it is offically Judgment, unless [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]], or [[Future generations of Pokémon|any future game]] changes the spelling. [[User:McKay|McKay]] 02:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, since this is about the move, and in the game it is spelled without the extra e, it is offically Judgment, unless [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]], or [[Future generations of Pokémon|any future game]] changes the spelling. [[User:McKay|McKay]] 02:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:Considering it's been [[Generation V|two]] [[Generation VI|generations]] since this discussion, and Generation VI ''did'' fix some spelling issues in move names (e.g. Faint Attack -> {{m|Feint Attack}}) this is a subject worth reviewing.  Me, I was rather surprised when I typed <nowiki>{{m|Judgement}}</nowiki> and the result was a red link with a deletion log entry. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 17:07, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
:: Well, that was quick -- the Gen VI spelling has indeed remained the same, so it is most likely considered not an error. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 17:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


== The timer thing that changes the type ==
== The timer thing that changes the type ==
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:But that would be incorrect. Because, unlike Curse, it isn't ???-type unless Arceus is hacked to be ???-type. Not to mention the ??? type doesn't exist in Generation V. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:But that would be incorrect. Because, unlike Curse, it isn't ???-type unless Arceus is hacked to be ???-type. Not to mention the ??? type doesn't exist in Generation V. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
::Oh. Well, I've got a lot to learn. It's just that I get confused by the page. Oops.  :)  [[User:Focus58|<font color="dark blue">Focus</font>]][[User talk:Focus58|<font color="dark gold">58</font>]] 20:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
::Oh. Well, I've got a lot to learn. It's just that I get confused by the page. Oops.  :)  [[User:Focus58|<font color="dark blue">Focus</font>]][[User talk:Focus58|<font color="dark gold">58</font>]] 20:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
== Smeargle ==
Shouldn't it be said that Smeargle is the only other Pokémon that can learn this move?  You know through Sketch? {{unsigned|Mr.Char}}
:That can be said of any any move (except Chatter), never mind any signature moves. Which means it's unnotable. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I know Smeargle won't change it's type by holding a plate, but if it have learned Judgment by Sketch, may the type of the move change if Smeargle is holding a plate? [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 21:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
== Super Mystery Dungeon ==
Since this is the first "official" playable appearance of Arceus in the Mystery Dungeon series, how exactly does Judgment work in this particular game? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 00:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
== Outdated trivia? ==
"Due to the types of both Arceus and Judgment being determined by the Plate held, Judgment always receives STAB when used by Arceus."
Now that Arceus's type also changes with Z-Crystals, is this true anymore? I don't know if Judgment is also affected by Z-Crystals. [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] ([[User talk:Pokemega32|talk]]) 05:48, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
:I have verified in-game that this is indeed no longer true. No matter which Z-Crystal Arceus is holding, Judgment remains a Normal-type move, and retains the type effectiveness of any other Normal-type move. Therefore, Judgment does not receive STAB if Arceus is holding any Z-Crystal other than Normalium Z.
:Other notes:
:*Judgment appears as a Normal-type move, no matter what item Arceus is holding. However, if Arceus is holding a Plate, the correct type matchup effectiveness is displayed in the battle menu. (For example, Judgment is shown to be "super effective" if an Arceus holding a Splash Plate is battling a Charmander.)
:*The Memories that can change the type of Silvally and Multi-Attack have no effect on the type of Arceus or Judgment.
:*The only Z-Crystal that can upgrade Judgment is Normalium Z, which upgrades the move to the Z-Move Breakneck Blitz.
:[[User:WhosHaddady|WhosHaddady]] ([[User talk:WhosHaddady|talk]]) 23:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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