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[[User:Lonestar_Phoenixxx|Lonestar_Phoenixxx]] 14:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | [[User:Lonestar_Phoenixxx|Lonestar_Phoenixxx]] 14:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:One has yet to do that... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC) | :One has yet to do that... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
Judgment’s type is its default when no plate is held: normal | |||
Having the type change in the article is confusing. Please change this. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 00:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Translation of 「さばきのつぶて」 == | == Translation of 「さばきのつぶて」 == | ||
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:Meh, makes more sense than God smiting with a pebble. --- Aura-Knight 00:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | :Meh, makes more sense than God smiting with a pebble. --- Aura-Knight 00:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
Just saw a video of the animated attack Judgment. I imagine it being like the kind of attack which deserves a long FMV playing every time it is used. | |||
In any case, I have made the edit based on the literal translation. | |||
[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 01:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
* I meant check in the edit summary. | |||
:Have someone check it[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub> 02:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Google Translate calls it "the decision to drop." Therefore, we must obey. | |||
::I'm kidding. But while "decision" can mean "Judgment," "to drop" has hardly anything to do with "Throwing Stone." And while Google Translate is made of uber fail, its translations are vaguely similar to its actually counterparts..: | |||
::If you do translate "つぶて" alone through Google Translate, however, it does come out as "Throwing stones," and the part left out (さばきの) means "verdict," so I can see how you came across that... - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::I went on Google translation and it said it was "the sale of grain". That proves that it cannot be relied on. I mean seriously, does God sell grain?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 03:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::"Throwing stone" may be a refence to David and Goliath.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 21:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Judgment or Judgement? == | |||
According to my dictionary, the word is usually spelled "judgement" with an extra "e", but can also be spelled "judgment" when it is referring to something in law. Judging by this (sorry, I couldn't resist that joke!) then surely it would make more sense for Arceus's special move to be spelled "Judgement". Is this Trivia worthy? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:''Judgement'' is just another spelling variation of ''judgment'', meaning either is correct. I don't think it's too notable. '''<span style="color:#000; font-family: Verdana;">~ <span style="color:#6c8b21;">ove</span><span style="color:#a1cf31;">rgr</span><span style="color:#c0df75;">own</span><sub>[[User:Sol|<span style="color:#000;">s</span>]][[User talk:Sol|<span style="color:#000;">o</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|<span style="color:#000;">l</span>]]</sub></span>''' 22:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: I always get screwed up in the spelling of the word, I always spell it Judgement, but I always get a red line under it meaning it's not spelled correctly, so I just take the "e" out and so it's rather annoying sometimes, as I'm confused as to the right spelling.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 01:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Well, since this is about the move, and in the game it is spelled without the extra e, it is offically Judgment, unless [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]], or [[Future generations of Pokémon|any future game]] changes the spelling. [[User:McKay|McKay]] 02:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Considering it's been [[Generation V|two]] [[Generation VI|generations]] since this discussion, and Generation VI ''did'' fix some spelling issues in move names (e.g. Faint Attack -> {{m|Feint Attack}}) this is a subject worth reviewing. Me, I was rather surprised when I typed <nowiki>{{m|Judgement}}</nowiki> and the result was a red link with a deletion log entry. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 17:07, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: Well, that was quick -- the Gen VI spelling has indeed remained the same, so it is most likely considered not an error. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 17:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== The timer thing that changes the type == | |||
Should we add that to the thing at the top that says "Judgment is a damage-dealing Normal-type move"?--'''[[Water (type)|<font color="#6890F0">Liquid</font>]]''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="#6890F0">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 08:45, 12 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia Edit == | |||
Updated some grammar, and changed the reference. Simply because the Judgment in heaven in the Christian belief is much more passive when you die, whereas it is much more like an Attack when God passes judgment to people on earth. Also I apologize for the second edit. I'm a little new to this, still getting in the rhythm. [[User:Kalinalurik|Kalinalurik]] 21:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Changing Type == | |||
I don't know if this was intended, and I apologize if it was, but while the colour display is changing momentarily like the notice at the top of this page says, the introductory line in the article is as well. So, when I came to the page it said "...is a damage-dealing Bug-type move..." [[User:Alakazam17|Alakazam17]] 02:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
: *points at notice at the top of this talk page* —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:05, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Well, thanks for reading what I posted[/sarcasm] [[User:Alakazam17|Alakazam17]] 14:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Let me clarify here. While the one who posted before me read the notice at the top of the page, he apparently did not read my post. Yes, the borders change due to the uniqueness of the ability(which is what that notice is all about), but I don't believe the line "...is a damage-dealing [insert type]..." should be. At least, this isn't the case on Arceus' page, where the border alternates but he is always identified as a "Normal-type." Which is basically what I said the first time. [[User:Alakazam17|Alakazam17]] 05:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Arceus is default Normal type, while Judgement is default whatever type Arceus is at the moment. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Power == | |||
Down there in the trivia section - isn't the power essentially 180 since the plates also increase the power of those-type attacks by 20%? (Same thing for the plates page, only that fails to account for the STAB bonus) --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 03:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== "Most Powerful Move" == | |||
I have removed this line from the trivia in the article; | |||
:" This means, providing Arceus is holding a plate, Judgement the most powerful move that is not detrimental to the user like {{m|Explosion}} and {{m|Selfdestruct}}." | |||
This doesn't follow. The trivia states what with STAB and the plate bonus the base power rises to 180. That is a high base power, but moves like Hydro Pump can achieve 180 through STAB, or higher through the use of an item. Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Frenzy Planet, etc. can exceed 200 base power with STAB alone. It is misleading to claim that Judgement is 'the most powerful move'. It certainly is powerful, but is by not superlative. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 16:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, not exactly sure what I was thinking when writing that. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 05:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Well if you look at {{m|Earthquake}}, it says "Earthquake has the highest fixed attack power of any move with 100% accuracy and no drawbacks '''(tied with Judgment)'''." | |||
::So, the trivia can stay if you add the 100% accuracy because moves like Hydro Pump don't have 100% accuracy, and Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, and variations have the drawback of recharge, don't they?--[[User:Si6x12|Si6x12]] 18:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
== ??? Type == | |||
Shouldn't judgement be ??? type because it changes? {{unsigned|Focus58}} | |||
:But that would be incorrect. Because, unlike Curse, it isn't ???-type unless Arceus is hacked to be ???-type. Not to mention the ??? type doesn't exist in Generation V. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Oh. Well, I've got a lot to learn. It's just that I get confused by the page. Oops. :) [[User:Focus58|<font color="dark blue">Focus</font>]][[User talk:Focus58|<font color="dark gold">58</font>]] 20:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Smeargle == | |||
Shouldn't it be said that Smeargle is the only other Pokémon that can learn this move? You know through Sketch? {{unsigned|Mr.Char}} | |||
:That can be said of any any move (except Chatter), never mind any signature moves. Which means it's unnotable. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
I know Smeargle won't change it's type by holding a plate, but if it have learned Judgment by Sketch, may the type of the move change if Smeargle is holding a plate? [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 21:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Super Mystery Dungeon == | |||
: | Since this is the first "official" playable appearance of Arceus in the Mystery Dungeon series, how exactly does Judgment work in this particular game? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 00:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC) | ||