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 For the rarity of pokemon in hidden grottos, it's just listed as "Rare," "Common," etc. Can we include a numeric value to show the actual ''odds'' of a pokemon in a hidden grotto being a certain pokemon? [[User:Draexzhan|Draexzhan]] ([[User talk:Draexzhan|talk]]) 21:28, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
+:The game gets 2 random numbers. rand(4) tells it which table to choose from (four total). Then it does rand(100) to determine what the player will encounter. The [http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12206225/grotto.htm Encounter Table]'s first Pokémon has a 1% chance of being present, if that table was chosen by the first rand(4). So essentially you can divide the encounter percent by 4 to get the chance of that table&slot happening. There's duplicates in the table (to increase the chance of them appearing..) so you can just sum up the %.
+:The encounter rates are 1%/4%/15% for Pokemon (net 20%), 1%/4%/10%/25% (net 40%) for a Pokéball item, and 1%/4%/10%/25% (net 40%) for a hidden item.
+:So for example, Heracross in B2 has a 1%/4 chance of appearing (0.25%), which is very rare! Smogon has  [http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/hidden_grotto_abuse a guide] which goes into a different amount of detail. I'm far too lazy to manually write all of the odds for each location :P [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 00:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 == Pokemon Genders Fixed ==
 Is the gender of the pokemon set when it spawns in a grotto? I was trying to get Bagon in the Pinwheel Forest outside grotto, and went to the inside one at first which had a Breloom (50/50 ratio) in it. Tried to get a Breloom♀, but after 20 soft resets it was only coming up ♂, so I just caught it and moved on. After spending an hour at the outside grotto Bagon spawned (50/50 ratio again). Again trying to get Bagon♀, went through about 100 soft resets, every time it was ♂. --[[User:Fenixdown|Fenixdown]] ([[User talk:Fenixdown|talk]]) 18:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
+:Genders are set when the Pokémon species is spawned (set by an RNG) in a grotto, so there is no use soft resetting. The moment the grotto is filled, you're locked in on that result until it is cleared. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 00:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
+== Evolution stones? ==
+I've noticed that there's several Hidden Grottoes listed in this page as spawning evolution stones that don't have them on their corresponding location pages, specifically:
+* [[Unova Route 7]]
+* [[Unova Route 9]]
+* [[Unova Route 18]]
+* [[Unova Route 23]]
+* [[Giant Chasm]]
+* [[Lostlorn Forest]]
+I took a quick glance at the histories for a few of the pages. Some used to have the stones in their item listing but had them removed at some point, while others never seemed to have them in the first place, so I'm not sure which is right.--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 04:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)