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Your kidding me, right? This page isn't needed! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 21:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
==This page isn't needed==
Your kidding me, right? This page isn't needed! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 21:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Why not?  It is an actual character in the games. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Why not?  It is an actual character in the games. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


::I think we should keep it. Cmon, I promise to feed this article everyday, and give it water... pleeeeeaseeee? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think we should keep it. Cmon, I promise to feed this article everyday, and give it water... pleeeeeaseeee? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


:::Ha.  Yeah, I agree with Fabu-Vinny and Tina.  -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
:::Ha.  Yeah, I agree with Fabu-Vinny and Tina.  -[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]]


::::Okay, but we should change the title. Literal Ghost? I mean come on, is there an Unliteral Ghost? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 03:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, but we should change the title. Literal Ghost? I mean come on, is there an Unliteral Ghost? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 03:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::Can't change it to Ghost though. Disambig's there. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Can't change it to Ghost though. Disambig's there. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::It's a literal ghost as opposed to {{p|Gastly}} and the like who seem to be something different. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 16:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::It's a literal ghost as opposed to {{p|Gastly}} and the like who seem to be something different. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 16:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::::Well, if it is a ghost a a Marowak, why don't we call it ''Marowak Ghost''???? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 18:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Well, if it is a ghost a a Marowak, why don't we call it ''Marowak Ghost''???? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 18:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::::What if a different ghost showed up, however? I think we should keep the name.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What if a different ghost showed up, however? I think we should keep the name.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
&larr; It's a "literal" ghost because Gastly, Haunter, and presumably Gengar would be that as well without the Silph Scope. The Marowak's the exception, actually. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 18:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
&larr; It's a "literal" ghost because Gastly, Haunter, and presumably Gengar would be that as well without the Silph Scope. The Marowak's the exception, actually. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 18:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


How about "Mystery Ghost" or "Un-Silphed Ghost"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 23:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Mystery Ghost" or "Un-Silphed Ghost"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 23:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really too good an idea. Literal ghost describes it better. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 04:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really too good an idea. Literal ghost describes it better. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 04:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 
I have an idea. How about <strike>Unsilphscopeificationalizationized Ghost</strike> "Pokémon Tower Ghost"? Well, maybe the latter's a little too cheesy. [[User:PH1R3STRIKE|PH1R3STRIKE]] 22:53, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 
What about GHOST (capitalized)? That's what it is named in the games. --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 03:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)Metagross72
 
:"GHOST" may be a little confusing, as it is also Haunter's Japanese name. [[User:PH1R3STRIKE|PH1R3STRIKE]] 20:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 
I think it should be changed to Ghost (Literal) so that everything's a bit less confusing. [[User:Sukineko123|Sukineko123]] 01:28, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


== Japanese Name ==
== Japanese Name ==
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::I kind of like '''Ghost (literal)''' for the name of the page. "Literal Ghost" seems like it's giving it a specific name or something.. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 07:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::I kind of like '''Ghost (literal)''' for the name of the page. "Literal Ghost" seems like it's giving it a specific name or something.. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 07:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:::^What he said, now that I think about it. There's just something about that name 'Literal ghost' that doesn't...really fit. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 11:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:::^What he said, now that I think about it. There's just something about that name 'Literal ghost' that doesn't...really fit. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 11:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Pokémon Tower Ghost is the most bestestest name choice, and you can't deny! [[User:PH1RESTRIKE|PH1RESTRIKE]] 00:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Old discussion is old, but I think it should be moved to Ghost (literal). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::Still old discussion is still old, why haven't we came to a descision on this? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 22:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


== Gen II ==
== Gen II ==
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== Where are the sprites for the "ghost" in generation I and III?==
== Where are the sprites for the "ghost" in generation I and III?==
Should we put them there? If yes, where are they?! [[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 22:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Should we put them there? If yes, where are they?! [[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 22:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:There is for Gen I, but I'm pretty sure there isn't for Gen II... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's Gen III.--[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
== Gen III sprite ==
Should it be noted that the Gen III sprite is quite obviously based on Haunter's appearance? (Compare its FRLG sprite if unconvinced. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5b/Spr_3f_093.png]) --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 07:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
: I've added it, anyhow. If it's unsatisfactory, someone can always delete it. :3 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:04, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
== Should Pokemon Creepy Black be mentioned? ==
It is a hack where Ghost plays a major role (Well, at the end, at least). It is currently being worked on, but it could warrant a mention [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 18:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
:Based on the fourth word of your comment, the answer is an obvious no.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
== Ghosts of the [[Old Chateau]] ==
Shouldn't they be mentioned? And also if they are included, the intro text should be changed too.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 05:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
== Ghost (literal) ==
Literal ghost is a conjectural name, but it's still a ghost never-the-less. Moving it to Ghost (literal) would show that it is literally a ghost of a dead Pokémon and not a {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon such as {{p|Gengar}}. Anyone catch my drift? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 15:41, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Conjecture like this is bad when we have a real name (it is called "Ghost") and can just disambiguate it with parenthesis. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
It does sound better than literal ghost so i agree to the move--[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 05:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
==Special Marowak Sprite==
So while playing Yellow, my Pikachu named Scruffy following close behind, I encountered tons of these things.  They were all purple and black. ...
Except the Marowak.  And I have a .PNG of the Marowak sprite. Is it needed? [[User:Dry Bones|<font color="#191970" face="Mistral">DB</font>]] 00:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
What you encountered was because of the games' habit of using a specific colour palette for each pokemon due to colour limitations of the earlier games, particuarly since colour games had not long been released. Pikachu, for example, would use a yellow palette, while growlithe would use orange. Starmie was a special case, because even back then it was supposed to be 3 colours, but Nintendo had to use grey as a "safe" colour and a similar case held true for Tentacool and Tentacruel. Their "gems" were blue in those games due to a limited colour palette. Catch my drift? So, when you encounter a disguised ghost, it uses the palette of the pokemon you encounter, so a disguised Cubone or Marowak would use brown/grey while a Gastly/Haunter would use purple. What you're suggesting is not really needed and it is mentioned in the trivia. [[User:LordHeinz|LordHeinz]] 01:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
== Just curious... ==
I remember playing Pokemon Blue when I was around 6-8 years old. Not truly the point, but I was wondering if maybe I was dreaming it up or if anyone else has ever encountered a literal ghost on some of the earlier floors before the Marowak battle? I strangely did encounter a couple and they would all turn into Growlithes. Just wondering if it was actually the game or if I was jsut dreaming that up when I was younger. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:22, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
== Cry ==
What cry does the ghost use? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:If I remember correctly, it doesn't have a cry. It just appears silently.<sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 13:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
::In RBY, this is the case, but in FR/LG, it uses the cry of whatever Pokémon it really is.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 05:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
== In the Anime ==
Look at the "In the anime" section. It says "In the anime, a ghost of the same sort appeared briefly in The Tower of Terror. Later, a Haunter takes Ash's and Pikachu's souls out of their bodies after they have been struck by a chandelier." So I'm guessing a literal ghost appears before the chandelier incident. Where in the episode does the ghost appear briefly? Are there any screen captures or elaboration? [[User:Chrisjh0223|Chrisjh0223]] ([[User talk:Chrisjh0223|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
*I watched that episode twice up to the point where Ash and Pikachu "die" in an attempt to see if I could find something, but the closest I could find to mathc the description was about 8 minutes in, when the gang walk into the dining room while it's still pitch-black and on the wall a painting of a woman wearing black sitting in a chair can be seen, and again just as Ash and Misty are about to flee (although her clothes are red this time around). Besides that, I couldn't see anything. [[User:LordHeinz|LordHeinz]] ([[User talk:LordHeinz|talk]]) 12:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
The lavender town/marowak ghost does NOT appear in the anime AT ALL. I would remove it, but i want to know why its there first.
[[User:Pokemon nomekop|Pokemon nomekop]] ([[User talk:Pokemon nomekop|talk]]) 03:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:Huh? The Marowak ghost isn't mentioned in the anime section.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 05:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
== Is there any way to catch a Ghost on Gen 1? ==
I really want to catch a Ghost in Gen 1. I have a Gameshark too. So, if anyone knows, it would be helpful. Thanks.
--[[User:Team Rocket Executive Proton|Team Rocket Executive Proton]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Executive Proton|talk]]) 12:49, 13 March 2016 (UTC) ~Team Rocket HQ
:The ghost is just the game giving an alternate sprite to the wild Pokémon that can normally appear (there's actually a glitch that allows you to view what the Pokémon really is). The closes you can get to catching a Ghost is to catch the [[MissingNo.]] that has that sprite. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:25, 13 March 2016 (UTC)