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I believe his battle music is the only one that has human voice. Is it not?'''[[User:Goldex555|<span style="color: #FDD017">Gold</span>]][[User:Goldex555|<span style="color:#4A9586">ex</span>]][[User:Goldex555|<span style="color:#347C17">555</span>]]''' 22:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC) | I believe his battle music is the only one that has human voice. Is it not?'''[[User:Goldex555|<span style="color: #FDD017">Gold</span>]][[User:Goldex555|<span style="color:#4A9586">ex</span>]][[User:Goldex555|<span style="color:#347C17">555</span>]]''' 22:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Nah. The FR/LG Champion music has {{tt|choir|Or at least something that sounds like choir}} at the beggining. Just listen closely... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 22:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Even, Miror B.'s theme in Colo is clearly the first.[[User:Blitzamirin|<span style="color:#399999"> ~ Blitzamirin ~ </span>]] 21:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Move to Ghetsis (NOT because of the rumors) == | == Move to Ghetsis (NOT because of the rumors) == | ||
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Note that I'm not saying that ゲーチス•ハルモニア is necessarily correct, either. I'm just saying that unless it's stated either way, it's bad to assume. --[[User:Ketsuban|Transfinite]] | [[User talk: Ketsuban|Talk]] 14:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC) | Note that I'm not saying that ゲーチス•ハルモニア is necessarily correct, either. I'm just saying that unless it's stated either way, it's bad to assume. --[[User:Ketsuban|Transfinite]] | [[User talk: Ketsuban|Talk]] 14:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Given that neither of Ghetsis's names are remotely Japanese, plus the setting, I think that the Western order is more appropriate, at least until we have something more solid to go on. It seems that most Japanese sites also use the western order for his name, so that's what I've changed it to for now. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 09:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Isn't that the opposite? == | == Isn't that the opposite? == | ||
It says "Ghetsis unwilligly let the player battle N" or something like that. Isn't that the opposite? Didn't he say something like "Go (name)! Prove your worth"! or somethhing like that in N's castle?[[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 20:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC) | It says "Ghetsis unwilligly let the player battle N" or something like that. Isn't that the opposite? Didn't he say something like "Go (name)! Prove your worth"! or somethhing like that in N's castle?[[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 20:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC) | ||
:I agree with this..... (but why can't the sentence just be edited?) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Since nobody disagreed, I edited the sentence. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 19:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Needs more plot information. == | |||
Specifically, one very important thing is unexplained by this page, and it MUST be fixed: | |||
What the hell is wrong with this guy? No, I know, it SEEMS like trivia until you realise he is a bigger jerk that the ones who tried to destroy the universe. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 13:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:That's left unexplained in the games, so anything we added to try to answer that would just be speculation. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
=="Corrupted romanization"== | |||
Why is the English romanization considered "corrupted" while the others aren't? | |||
The romaji would be ''gēchisu'' and I guess the official trademarked version is ''G-Cis'', so shouldn't all the other romanizations be considered "corrupted"? | |||
I don't understand why "Ghetis" or "Ghecis" or "Ghechis" aren't "corrupted", yet "Ghetsis" is. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 00:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Translated concept art== | |||
After posting my [[Talk:N#N's Puzzle Cube|translation of N's concept art]], I got a request to translate [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Ghetsis_Concept_Art.jpg Ghetsis's concept art] as well. So here it goes... | |||
'''Ｇ-Ｃｉｓ''' (ゲーツィス) | |||
*Ostensibly a member of the [[Seven Sages|seven-man group]]. | |||
*After the seven-man group gives N the crown on the Day of God (Japanese: 神の日 ''Kami no Hi''), if you look closely, he's the only one who doesn't kneel. | |||
*He established the [[Team Plasma|organization]] for his own purposes, making N the organization's center and preparing him to become a god. | |||
*Rumors say that he's N's father, and that's why he decided to make him king. | |||
*He physically resembles N. | |||
*He's the opponent that the protagonist fights at the end. | |||
*Before the final battle (when N's gone), he tells the protagonist that he's N's father. | |||
:(Is it the truth, or is he just trying to upset the protagonist? Even that's uncertain.) | |||
*G-Cis's own selfish desire is to achieve world domination, which is his true purpose. | |||
*Desires absolute power, covets total control, has an aggressive personality, and will not stop until he's completely obtained both. That's perfection... | |||
*Even after losing to the protagonist, G-Cis's ambition for perfection, his desire, will continue to expand even further. | |||
*Height is about 200cm (N's height is 180cm). | |||
*His clothing is like that of an archbiship, and the golden embroidery is reversed on the left and right sides. | |||
That's the entire thing. Note that his name was spelled differently (ゲーツィス instead of ゲーチス), and Team Plasma and the Seven Sages apparantly hadn't been named yet. Also states that, despite rumors and what he says, his status as N's father is supposed to remain uncertain -- to be perfectly clear, that bit in the parenthesis is from the design notes (本当なのか？それとも主人公を動揺させたいだけなのか？それすら定かではない), not my own comment. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 05:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
: It's not ゲー'''シ'''ィス, but ゲー'''ツ'''ィス (''Ghetsis''). The concept art seems to refer to his English name. [[Special:Random|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="color:#696969">'''AKUro?'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Akurochan|<span style="color:#010101">あくロ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Akurochan|<sub style="color:#AEAEAE">ちゃん</sub>]] 06:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Hi I love you forever. This is pretty cool, they perfectly knew how they wanted the character to be since the start. Thank you for translating! [[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 08:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Memory Link: Unknown trainer == | |||
For the line "And I've lost to some unknown Trainer not once, but TWICE?!" upon being defeated in BW2, the article comments that he does not say this line if Memory Link is used. Is this erroneous? Having used Memory Link with a completed BW, the line appeared for me. Intuitively it seems like a line he would say if Memory Link '''is''' used, not the opposite. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] ([[User talk:Miraglyth|talk]]) 16:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Fixed, he says that in both cases. And that makes sense - I don't think that Ghetsis knows who you are, so he refers to protagonist as an unknown Trainer. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 16:20, 20 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Anime artwork == | |||
Is there any reason why we should have the ''Best Wishes'' artwork in the anime section? It's not useful as it is nearly identical to the video game art. [[User:Dancing Dragonite|Dancing Dragonite]] ([[User talk:Dancing Dragonite|talk]]) 22:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== BW == | |||
As far as I know, Ghetsis makes a comment on the player, should (s)he win battle against N, but lose against Ghetsis and go try again. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Bouffalant's ability == | |||
…is not [[Reckless (ability)|Reckless]]; it is [[Sap Sipper (ability)|Sap Sipper]], which raises its Attack by one level when hit with a [[Grass (type)|Grass-type]] attack. | |||
[[User:HMSaph|HMSaph]] ([[User talk:HMSaph|talk]]) 19:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It's definitely Reckless [[User:Nepse|Nepse]] ([[User talk:Nepse|talk]]) 20:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius == | |||
The new August chapter of Pokemon Special that just came out in Pokemon Fan apparently says that his full name, at least in that continuity, is indeed Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius. Do what you will with that. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:51, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "Projects G & F" == | |||
So I know Project G is the Genesect Army, but what is Project F? I'm guessing I'm just missing something and you guys already know, but just thinking, could it be "F" for "FOG"? As in [[Anthea and Concordia]]? | |||
{{unsigned|Nutter Butter}} | |||
:It is never revealed. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Official Artwork? == | |||
Where did [http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130623123005/villains/images/2/22/Let_your_Pokemon_go%21.jpg this] come from? Does anyone know? I found it on the Villains Wiki. [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 19:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It a scan of a clear file with artwork of Ghetsis's speech originally drawn by [[Yusuke Ohmura]]. It was released as an eight piece set of clear files featuring other artwork's from other games, such as [[a:File:Entei Raikou Suicune.png|the beasts in the burnt tower by ken sugimori]]. I don't know exactly ''when'' this product was released, or what the original illustration was specifically used to promote (probably just the games in general), but they used it on the clear file set. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 20:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Boufallant == | |||
Does Ghetsis Boufalalnt have a hidden Ability? I saw before that it took recoil from Head Charge and later that it was a affected by a grass move. Furthur, a user changed it, as it was affecrd by petal dance. So, either it has its hidden abilty soundproof or an illegal abilty (like Brock's Rhydon according to here) {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}} | |||
:{{a|Reckless}} doesn't prevent recoil damage, you're probably thinking of {{a|Rock Head}}.--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 04:23, 11 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Ah thanks. I did not know I was wrong. I just read the page on reckless. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:24, 11 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Pseudo-legendary trivia == | |||
I just had a thought regarding the point about Ghetsis being the only villainous team leader in the main games that uses a pseudo-legendary, Should it be noted that this only applies when one excludes the Garchomp on Giovanni's Type Expert/World Leaders roster? '''''[[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]''''' 19:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC) | |||