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=Content from Miracle and Wonder Chest=
==Merge request==
Since both of these items listed boost experience gained from enemies, I was thinking that this page should be merged into [[experience-affecting item]], with a subsection for spin-off series that incorporate these items. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#AB2813"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#00A000"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
=Content from Experience-affecting item pre-merge=
== Does the Exp Share gives the same amount of EVs or is it shared? ==
== Does the Exp Share gives the same amount of EVs or is it shared? ==
'''[[User:Optimatum|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub> 02:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
'''[[User:Optimatum|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub> 02:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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:It has been since G2. The question is - are the EV items activated? Or something. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 11:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:It has been since G2. The question is - are the EV items activated? Or something. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 11:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, we know the items do not work for super training. So its likely they also do not work here, but if they work via Lv up then they could work. I know the EV Yield article states "When a Pokémon is defeated in battle, it will give effort values to the Pokémon that participated in the battle against it." Non of these Pokémon save for Meinfoo actually participated in battle, and even then Meinfoo took a back seat so that Charizard could level up faster without distraction. There needs to be some more research into this. We don't even know if they are getting the Pokérus benefit added or not. Its one thing for an infected Pokémon who wins the battle, its a whole other beast for those that never step foot into it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 12:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, we know the items do not work for super training. So its likely they also do not work here, but if they work via Lv up then they could work. I know the EV Yield article states "When a Pokémon is defeated in battle, it will give effort values to the Pokémon that participated in the battle against it." Non of these Pokémon save for Meinfoo actually participated in battle, and even then Meinfoo took a back seat so that Charizard could level up faster without distraction. There needs to be some more research into this. We don't even know if they are getting the Pokérus benefit added or not. Its one thing for an infected Pokémon who wins the battle, its a whole other beast for those that never step foot into it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 12:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Exp. Share also gives EVs to any Pokémon it gives experience to (even if they gain none due to being Level 100). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


== Exp. Share + Lucky Egg ==
== Exp. Share + Lucky Egg ==


Does the Lucky Egg boost experience gotten with the Exp. Share?? {{unsigned|Mangaman13}}
Does the Lucky Egg boost experience gotten with the Exp. Share?? {{unsigned|Mangaman13}}
:IIRC it does, my Doduo was getting a boost offline without Amie. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 03:05, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
::Why did you do that? I had already noticed I had forgotten and signed it before you edited it.[[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Lucky Egg does boost experience from the Exp. Share. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
== 1/2 Exp twice in Gen II ==
[[file:Gen II EXP Share glitch.png|thumb|160px|a border looks cleaner]]
I made an animation to illustrate the phenomenon since the concept can be difficult to understand from words. (The wording we have is probably as good as it could be, but it's still a bit strange if you've never seen it happen.) I just don't know where we might put the image without crowding the template even more than it already is. Any ideas? --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 16:33, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
:I don't see how it's hard to understand at all, but if it were really necessary, an animation would better fit on [[experience]]. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 17:04, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
== Gen VI mechanics ==
I'm not really clear on how the Exp. Share breaks up experience in gen VI. Say you have a team of six, where Pokemon A and B participated and C, D, E, and F did not. How would the experience be divided, as percentages of the maximum?
1) '''A:''' 50%  '''B:''' 50%  '''C:''' 50%  '''D:''' 50%  '''E:''' 50%  '''F:''' 50%
2) '''A:''' 25%  '''B:''' 25%  '''C:''' 12.5%  '''D:''' 12.5%  '''E:''' 12.5%  '''F:''' 12.5%
3) '''A:''' 16.6%  '''B:''' 16.6%  '''C:''' 16.6%  '''D:''' 16.6%  '''E:''' 16.6%  '''F:''' 16.6%
4) '''A:''' 33.3%  '''B:''' 33.3%  '''C:''' 8.3%  '''D:''' 8.3%  '''E:''' 8.3%  '''F:''' 8.3%
Or is it some other breakdown? [[User:Shaarizad|Shaarizad]] ([[User talk:Shaarizad|talk]]) 16:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
:Experience isn't exactly divided. Everyone who appears in battle (without fainting) gets full experience. If Exp. Share is turned on, everyone else gets half experience. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
::I see. I didn't know until now that experience is no longer divided up among participants as of Generation VI. [[User:Shaarizad|Shaarizad]] ([[User talk:Shaarizad|talk]]) 18:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
=Post-merge discussion=
Price check on Lucky Egg Gen II? Crystal says it sells for 100P, not 200. [[User:AK712|AK712]] ([[User talk:AK712|talk]]) 18:58, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
:You are correct. --[[User:Froggy25|Froggy25]] ([[User talk:Froggy25|talk]]) 19:38, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
== Move ==
Now that [[Exp. Share]] and [[Lucky Egg]] have their own pages, this page (which only existed to avoid giving those items their own pages in the first place) is no longer necessary. However, the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon items Miracle Chest and Wonder Chest are currently only covered on this article, so the most logical choice is to turn this into an article about those two items specifically. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:09, 9 June 2019 (UTC)