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:I think it will probably be necessary to breed within some egg groups in order to get to the end of this, but maybe not. I have rather cleverly confused myself, so I hope anyone reading this can follow :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think it will probably be necessary to breed within some egg groups in order to get to the end of this, but maybe not. I have rather cleverly confused myself, so I hope anyone reading this can follow :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
::Hm,'kay that's basically what I wanted to know, indeed. So, that means you ''can'' breed any egg group with another egg group. Impressive. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 15:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
==Gender%==
Personally I would find it useful if, in the individual egg group pages, there was a portion of the table that listed gender percentages. The most useful application would be in the mineral group to identify which species are genderless at a glance. Secondly, to identify species which have no females/males. I feel this change would only enhance the pages as references for breeding. I'm not asking for someone else to do it, I'm asking if (and how) it should be done. [[User:Githe|Githe]] 13:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
== Ingame or fanbased? ==
Are the names of egg groups found inside the game or have they been made up by fans just to reference the different groups? [[User:Chum|Chum]] 22:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:Neither, they're found in official guides or something like that...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::They're in a Pokémon Stadium but I don't know which one. If we were to use guides, we would have to rename the {{egg3|Ground}} to Field due to the HGSS guide (as well as a few other changes to names I think). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:22, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
:::They're named such in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 10:51, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
==Pokédex 3D==
The new Pokédex 3D app has new names for all the egg groups. Ground is now '''Field''', Plant is now '''Grass''', No Eggs is '''Undiscovered''', Fairy, Monster and Dragon remain the same and I don't have any Pokémon in any of the other groups yet. Given the amount of edits it would take, I'm asking here first. Is it OK for these Egg groups to be moved? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 08:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:In the [[Prima's Official Strategy Guides|official Platinum strategy guide]], the egg groups are named {{egg|Plant|Grass group}}, {{egg2|Bug}}, {{egg2|Flying}}, {{egg|Humanshape|Human-like group}}, {{egg2|Monster}}, {{egg2|Fairy}}, {{egg2|Dragon}}, {{egg2|Mineral}}, {{egg|Ground|Field group}}, {{egg|Indeterminate|Amorphous group}}, {{egg|Water 1|Water group 1}}, {{egg|Water 2|Water group 2}}, {{egg|Water 3|Water group 3}}, {{egg2|Ditto}}, {{egg|No Eggs Discovered|No Eggs found group}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
::Surely an actual game is of more significance than a strategy guide, even an official one? Even if they are the same, the Pokédex names are the most recent. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 09:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:::I was pointing out the fact that these names are not new (apart from No Eggs being Undiscovered). It means that these names have almost certainly been retconned, and have been for some time. I'm leaning more towards using the new names over the old names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I was just about to bring this up myself. The old source, Pokemon Stadium 2, is now over ten years old, and a lot about the game has changed since then. It's possible Nintendo was using these names even as early as Ruby and Sapphire and we just never knew. We now have an official source for the egg group names... the only question, I think, would probably be whether to start renaming now, or to wait until the application updates to show at least one Pokemon from each egg group so we have the official names of all of them at once. -- [[User:Saethori|Saethori]] 06:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::We have all the official names from the Search option. They're all the same as the ones SnorlaxMonster posted, except No Eggs is Undiscovered. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 07:06, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
::::::My question is, are the water groups formatted like mine were? So "Water group 1" etc., rather than our current "Water 1 group" etc.? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::::It's the latter, they're just Water 1, Water 2 and Water 3. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 07:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, so it omits "group" entirely? Interesting... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Never has mentioned "group", it's the same sort of disambiguation that happens for types. After all, Starmie in the game has two icons, which say WATER and PSYCHC. It's a dual-type Water/Psychic Pokémon.
:::::::::Either way, pics of the strategy guide or it didn't happen. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:30, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::They were a bit hard to scan due to how ridiculously thick the guide is, but it really should only affect things on the inside edge. [http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/EG1_small.jpg] [http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/EG2_small.jpg] [http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/EG3_small.jpg] [http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/EG4_small.jpg] [http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/EG5_small.jpg].
::::::::::Anyway, since we {{tt|are moving|have moved}} them anyway, we should really capitalize "Egg", since it is [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax|always]] capitalized. Also, I think the number from the Water groups goes after "group" as a standard, as it is used [http://www.pokemon.com/us/games/strategy/vg_strategy-handle-with-care-discovering-pokemon-eggs-part-2/ here] too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
== Japanese names ==
Have the Japanese names always been the same for each egg group or have they changed inbetween Stadium 2 and Pokédex 3D? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 10:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
== Regional Variant formatting ==
Is there a way to fix the formatting for how regional variants, Ash-Greninja and other alternate forms are represented on the various egg group pages? They all have their Pokédex numbers listed as "105A" (Alolan Marowak) or "745Mn" (Midnight Lycanroc). What's the coding involved in making the various Wormadam forms visible without these issues? [[User:PDL|PDL]] ([[User talk:PDL|talk]]) 03:57, 29 June 2017 (UTC)