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+== 252 vs floor(255/4) ==
 Where "252" comes from isn't explained... it'd be better as Math.floor(255/4), but I'd prefer to see it written with the proper math symbols, which don't appear to be supported in Bulbapedia yet... - Hyperworm.
 :We'll try to get texvc installed, but that would mean getting an Ocaml compiler for whatever platform the server is running... not to mention checking that TeX is installed properly, etc. (mutter...) - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 12:23, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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 :--[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 00:53, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)
+== Chart of EV yields ==
 Is anyone thinking of compiling a chart of pokemon and what Effort Values they have? I see that each pokemon has theirs on their own pages but it doesn't list all of them at one spot, any ambitions or places online that it could be copied over from? [[User:Lucasthalefty|Lucasthalefty]] 02:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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 Wow that makes it so much better thanks [[User:Lucasthalefty|Lucasthalefty]] 14:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
+== Lv 100 ==
 Just a point of clarification here - is it necessary to get a Pokemon to lv. 100 to get the full EV benefits? [[User:Fuzzy|Fuzzy]] 13:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 :Once they have the effort ribbon, you'll know they have full effort values. Otherwise, then, you can't really know. Heck, a Pokémon can hit 100 without full EVs. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 19:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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 I read somewhere (a long time ago, I forget now) that when training a Pokémon on the same route or other map area where you caught it, it will receive double the normal amount of EVs. Does anyone know if this is true? {{unsigned|Dansiman}}
-:I know that in Crystal, it raised happiness by like, double or something. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
+:I know that in Crystal, it raised happiness by like, double or something. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 ::I don't think that thing you read was true. After all, many Pokémon are recieved in places where there are no wild Pokémon, such as starter pokémon, and you can't battle in the Safari Zone, and if a Pokémon is traded, say, from Diamond to Soul Silver, then you couldn't do train on the route either.
 Is it possible to check how many EVs are there for a apecific stat? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]] 19:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
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 ::::Does that mean you have to battle continuously? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]] 18:48, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 :::::Yep. So if you wanted to raise Sp Attack EVs, you'd battle something like Budew 252 times (Budew gives out one Sp Attack EV, I think) [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
-:Unless you have the 'rus and a Macho Brace. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 00:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
+:Unless you have the 'rus and a Macho Brace. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 00:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 What about Emerald? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]] 06:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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 HI, I'm new!... That aside, could someone please explain the following situation? I think it might be useful to people... Anyway, I came across EVs recently and decided to train my [[Kadabra (Pokémon)|Alakaz]] in Sp. Atk. and Speed. His EVs were already maxed, so I thought of using the EV-reducing berries. I also tried some on a {{p|Houndoom}}, for happiness. These are the messages I got:
-I used a lot of [[Grepa berry|Grepa berries]], and then some {{b|Kelpsy}} and {{b|Qualot}}. His happiness was always at max. At first I got the message "Alakaz adores you! Its base Sp. Def. fell." After some Grepas, I got the message "It won't have any effect." Then I fed him some Kelpsy, and I got the message "Alakaz adores you! Its base Attack fell"... Then I tried a few Pomeg berries on [[Houndoom (Pokémon)|Houndark]]. At first the normal message showed, but I didn't see the HP go down. Then, after the third one, I got "Houndark became more friendly. Its base HP won't go lower."
+I used a lot of [[Grepa Berry|Grepa berries]], and then some {{b|Kelpsy}} and {{b|Qualot}}. His happiness was always at max. At first I got the message "Alakaz adores you! Its base Sp. Def. fell." After some Grepas, I got the message "It won't have any effect." Then I fed him some Kelpsy, and I got the message "Alakaz adores you! Its base Attack fell"... Then I tried a few Pomeg berries on [[Houndoom (Pokémon)|Houndark]]. At first the normal message showed, but I didn't see the HP go down. Then, after the third one, I got "Houndark became more friendly. Its base HP won't go lower."
 Can someone please explain? I'm [[User:Togepikachu|TogePikachu]], thank you. 10:24, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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 Hi, I am kind of new to EV training, and being as I just recently got my platinum reset, I was wondering at later levels, if you clear effort values, does it decrease the stat?[[User:Max2liam|Max2liam]] ([[User talk:Max2liam|talk]]) 01:39, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 :Yes, it does, but it depends how much Effort values you decrease. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 15:47, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
+So can you ever see -1 or something when you level up a pokemon? Supposing that this pokemon had 252 EV on some stat, and then they got reset to 0, and you leveled that pokemon up. {{unsigned|Classicalguss}}
+No you cannot, because effort values change stats instantaneously, meaning that you will see no change upon levelling up. [[User:PlatypusVenom|PlatypusVenom]] ([[User talk:PlatypusVenom|talk]]) 23:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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 ::::My scanner's not working right now, but the guidebook proves without a doubt that EVs are officially called "base stats" on page 373. There's a graphic showing that "Your Pokémon's stats" being composed of "The strengths of its species", "The strengths of the individual", and "Its base stats for each stat". It also has "+ Nature, held items, etc." off to the side. Note that this is also in the Super Training section of the book. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 :::::No need to worry about scanning that page anymore, just look at [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/vg_xy_strategy_base_stats-2013-11-20/ this Pokémon.com article]. Most significant quote: "Base stats are not the six Pokémon stats you often see, such as HP, Attack, and Speed—base stats are actually the rate at which those defining stats will increase." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
+::::::So... now a Pokémon's base stats are its... base base stats plus its other base stats from Super Training? Meaning that both EVs and base stats have the official name of base stats? They REALLY don't want to make this simple for us. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
+:::::::Oh, I see what you're saying, you're talking about the "Investigate" section. It looks like whoever wrote this Pokémon.com article didn't properly understand the guidebook (since it appears to basically be an attempt to transfer that info). There is one blatant error there to begin with: "In Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Guidebook, base stats are represented by green boxes by each of the six stats." That is simply not the case; the guidebook uses those two boxes only once, and that's to demonstrate what "The strengths of the Pokémon's species" are. It's also why they're labelled "Stat Growth Rates" and not "Base Stats". It's not actually explained what the red is supposed to indicate though (I'd just assumed the red was supposed to show base stats adding to "the strengths of the Pokémon's species"). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
+::::::::Ah, that makes far more sense. That's pretty much absolute confirmation of it, then? The only issue now is still what to move the base stats page to. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
+:::::::::Got the scans of the relevant pages [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21584420/BP/Images/XY%20guidebook%20p372-3.jpg] [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21584420/BP/Images/XY%20guidebook%20p374-5.jpg] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
+:Wow, I wasn't expecting a response, but I [http://support.pokemon.com/link/portal/15182/15227/Ticket/148930 submitted a question to support.pokemon.com and got a response]. They have clarified that EVs are base stats, and that the Pokémon.com article needs correcting. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
+::Just so you know, people who aren't you can't view your support question or the response if you wanted everyone to see it. Is the base stats page going to be moved soon for this page to take its place? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 01:42, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
+:::Oh? well, here's the text:
+Apologies for the delay in response. Looking closely at this, I believe the article on Pokémon may need correcting and I will contact the writer to discuss it.
+Stats are the values inherent to a Pokémon species
+Base Stats, which are influenced by Super Training (among other things like the item Protean), will grow a given Stat faster
+On the whole, the internet also offers many great resources in regards to training Pokémon - the ways to train and grow a Pokémon are so numerous it can be difficult for even us to cover all the bases!
+Thank you,
+-Pokémon Support
+:::--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
+:::: I was about to object seeing the template, but skimming the evidence above, I think the renames are warranted. (Though, I personally think this whole mess may be due to an unfortunate mis-translation, but that's beside the point if the whole of Nintendo seems to be adopting it.)  I suggest a lot of clarification though, at least at first (i.e. "The term 'base stat' was used by the community in [[Generation V]] and prior to refer to species stats.  However, the term gained a different official definition in [[Generation VI]].").  Presumably, these are 'base' as opposed to [[Stat_modifiers#Stages|Stages]], I guess?? [[User:AySz88|AySz88]] ([[User talk:AySz88|talk]]) 04:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
+As an end user I would go with the inconvenience of changing terms in all of my projects to be coordinated with the official terms used by Game Freak. Especially now that new players are going to go with the "new" terminology. Users would be redirected to the correct pages and explanations would be entered in the first paragraph. So I see no reason for confusion (other than stubbornness). [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] ([[User talk:White Phoenix|talk]]) 20:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
+:::::Per executive decision from {{u|Evil Figment}}, the [[base stats]] and effort values articles are '''not moving''' at this time. This discussion is '''closed''' and will not be re-opened or re-started without executive approval. Additional comments are not allowed, and will be removed. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 07:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 == Have Effort Ribbon, used stat-reducing berry ==
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 :In XY, just go to Super Training and check whether the bar on the right is filled up all the way. In previous generations, no, I don't know if there's a definite way. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:16, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 ::Okay, thanks anyways. I remembered that I had a save of the game (using emulator) on my computer prior to using the Hondews, so I now have a general number of how many EVs I'm missing. Time to kill 25 Linoones / Beat Sidney into submission but not using Shedinja to fight Cacturne... [[User:1caiser|1caiser]] ([[User talk:1caiser|talk]]) 06:26, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
+== Is wasting 258 or 18 EVs the max? ==
+Let us say, in LeafGreen I choose Bulbasaur and loose to my nemesis and then go to route 1 and battle Pidgeys and Rattatas 510 times, all the time swearing never to be beat by my nemesis again. (Pidgey and Rattata both add 1 EV to speed.) Then I battle and win against a Mankey on route 22 (adds one EV to attack) and then I face my nemesis again. I supposedly maxed out my speed with attacking all the Pokémon on route 1. The one EV from Mankey, is that put into my attack stat or have I used up all 510 EV points (wasting 258 extra in speed)?
+Or:
+If I do not pay attention to my EV collecting and get 83 EVs (4 x 20 + 3) in HP, Attack, Sp. Attack, Defense, and Sp. Defense and 95 (4 x 23 + 3) in Speed. (83 x 5 + 95 = 510) Is this the maximum amount of effort values I can waste? 127 the worst way vs 123 the horrible way. (20 x 5 + 23 = 123) vs. ((252 / 4) x 2 + 1 = 127)
+[[User:Cyalknight|Cyal (LeafGreen&#38;Emerald)]] ([[User talk:Cyalknight|talk]]) 08:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
+:You cannot put 510 EVs in any one stat.  The maximum is 255 which is stated on the page.  You've received an attack EV but only one means that it hasn't actually received anything towards your stat.
+:For your second question. I guess?  It's kinda a silly hypothetical that's not likely to happen. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 12:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
+== Trades and Stat Calculation ==
+Does the system recalculate a pokemon's stats when it's traded?  In particular I'm wondering about 4th gen.  For example, if you had a Lv. 100 Blaziken in Diamond, could you cancel it's EVs (using berries), retrain it's EVs, then get it's new stats by trading to a Platinum? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 07:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
+== 253+ base stats in transferred Pokémon ==
+Would they have their base stat points reduced? It could be tested by transferring a 510 effort value Pokémon with 253+ base stats in an stat, and transferring it to see if it doesn't have a full Effort-O-Meter. Of course, the Pokémon has to be legitimate. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])</small> 15:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
+I have this same question. I could see 1 of 2 things happening, 1) The pokémon's EVs will be changed to min(EV,252) or 2) staying at their current place until EVs are reduced by something in-game. [[User:Zombiedude347|Zombiedude347]] ([[User talk:Zombiedude347|talk]]) 17:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
+== Max EV for Generation VI ==
+The article mentions that having 255 is the same as having 252 EV for a stat. However, it is not entirely true because of the Nature. For example, if a Pokémon has a nature that makes the growing factor of Attack become 1.1, 3 points of EV will result in a difference of 1 point in Attack in certain intermediate levels, but then flattened out in Level 100, mathematically. I am not sure if extra checking and rounding are performed in the games. Anyway, the Max EV is limited to be 252 in Generation VI. I believe the text now is ambiguous so I am going to edit one line out. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 16:12, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
+:EVs aren't affected by nature, at least, not in the sense you're referring to.  It's a straight 4 EVs = 1 point in whatever stat the EVs are in.  The 3 EVs don't do anything extra regardless of natures. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 16:21, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
+::Rounding occurs before the Nature is applied, so there is no difference between 252 and 255 EVs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
+:::Fine, that I can live with. But the main motivation of deleting the line "This provides little functional difference..." is because there is no such a thing of EV 255 in Generation VI. This statement may confuse people, which I am among, to think that EV 255 is achievable but meaningless, which, in reality, doesn't even exist in Generation VI. This statement may be a good explanation behind the motivation of reducing Max EV to 252 by the developer, but it gives little benefit to the understanding of the actual phenomenon while risking readability.
+:::Besides, I have been constructing worksheets according to the formulae and found out the rounding problems. In my calculations, a difference in 3 EV gives no differences in Level 100 but may result in 1 point of difference in certain specific intermediate levels. I understand that this may not be the case in the game, but if someone could modify the formulae given in the page to reflect the rounding policy, I'd be grateful.
+-[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 02:41, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
+::::It is integer division by 4 (since we are dealing with integers here, not floats), so there can never be a difference. I'm not really sure how people could think that you can have 255 in a stat when the sentence prior outright states that EVs now cap at 252 for each stat. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:03, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
+:::::Well, for some reason, I did. I think it's probably we don't read every single word, but skip to the last sentence without reading the second last, somehow. Maybe your latest edit would fix it, or maybe not. I just feel like if I fell for it, someone else may. Besides, this statement is a supportive reasoning instead of a fact so I feel it isn't really that necessary to be included on the page.
+:Oh, besides, I think it's called "integral division" instead of "integer division" because an adjective should be more preferable to be put in front of a noun.
+-[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 04:18, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
+== Mixed EV reward adding ==
+Quick question: when you defeat a pokemon who has multiple EV rewards (i.e. Wartortle, who gives 1 Defense and 1 Special Defense EV, or the various formes of Deoxys) and you have near-full EVs (i.e. 508,509 total EVs), which is added first? Here's a couple examples to illustrate my point:
+*'''Example 1:''' I have a Wobbuffet with 252HP/252SpDef/4Def EVs (508 Total EVs) and I defeat a Defense Form Deoxys (2 Def, 1 Sp Def) -- what would my Wobbuffet's EV count be after defeating Deoxys? What would happen if Wobbuffet had Pokerus and/or had a Macho Brace or one of the Power Items equipped?
+*'''Example 2:''' I have a Aegislash with 248HP/252Def/4SpDef EVs with Pokerus and a Power Weight equipped and I defeat a Wartortle (1 Def, 1 Sp Def) -- what would my Aegislash's EV count be after defeating that Wartortle?
+Not sure how important this is, since most of the time it would only affect the 2 "freebie" EVs that won't affect stats, but I'm still curious. [[User:ShermTank7272|ShermTank7272]] ([[User talk:ShermTank7272|talk]]) 16:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
+== Official name ==
+Shouldn't the article explain the official name [[Base stats|and the confusion it causes]]? It is already mentioned, sure, but the article doesn't explore the subject beyond that. The Japanese name isn't as troublesome as the English name but it still didn't catch on among Japanese fans. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 20:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
+== Official usage of "base stats" ==
+For a while, it's almost seemed to me like perhaps the official usage of "base stats" to apparently refer to "effort values" is actually heavily and more or less intentionally conflating what we generally know as effort values and base stats; in other words, basically they don't really care to make a strong distinction between them. It often seems to me like the official view is that a Pokemon has "base stats" that it starts with (what we generally know as base stats) and then by battling other Pokemon, you can "increase" those "base stats" (when we would say you gain effort values).
+This quote from [http://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/training-battle-ready-pokemon/ a recent article] seems to me to demonstrate that view fairly clearly.
+:"''The only factor that determines which base stats grow and by how much is the species of Pokémon you battled—its level and '''base stats''' don’t matter.''"
+To me, that latter usage of "base stats" can only refer to what we usually know as base stats, and not to effort values, if only because wild Pokemon have 0 effort values.
+Occasionally (including in that article), they will also use the term "base stat points", which seems to more explicitly describe what we generally call "effort values". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:53, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
+:That's actually closer to the Japanese name but is it used anywhere in-game? The English games refer to 「<stat>の基礎ポイント」 in the descriptions of [[vitamin]]s as "the base <stat> ({stat's full name}) stat". Here's {{DL|Vitamin|Zinc}} in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 as an example.
+:;Japanese
+<blockquote>ポケモンの　{{ruby|栄養|えいよう}}ドリンク。　ポケモン　{{ruby|１匹|１ひき}}の　{{ruby|特防|とくぼう}}の　{{ruby|基礎|きそ}}ポイントを　あげる。</blockquote>
+:;English
+<blockquote>A nutritious drink for Pokémon. It raises the base Sp. Def (Special Defense) stat of a single Pokémon.</blockquote>
+:— [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 15:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
+== Catching a Pokémon ==
+Since catching a Pokémon grants exp. from Gen VI, has anybody figured out yet if it also grants EVs? --[[User:Queenwillneverdie|Queenwillneverdie]] ([[User talk:Queenwillneverdie|talk]]) 08:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
+:It's already on the page "Catching a wild Pokémon will now give EVs for that Pokémon as if it were defeated." --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 09:52, 10 April 2016 (UTC)