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{{Forme info|555{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|1=Z}}.png|Fire|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=fire|1=psychic}}|[[Form differences#Darmanitan|Darmanitan's forms]]|Darmanitan as though it were in either it's Standard Mode or Zen Mode. However, this cannot be accurately reproduced here|the type-themed color displays, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden, and the moves noted as [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for this Pokémon|time the article isn't edited for more than a week}}
==Physiology==
==Physiology==
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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== Flare Blitz ==
== Flare Blitz ==


Could it be noted that Flare Blitz, when combined with Stab, Sheer Force, an item that raises the attack of fire type moves, i managed to knock out a Gyarados of the same level just by that, it makes the moves super power full. [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 16:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Could it be noted that Flare Blitz, when combined with Sheer Force, Sunny Day, an item that raises the attack of fire type moves, the STAB, Using Bulk Up a few times and the fact Darmanitan has the strongest physical attack of all fire types is probably the strongest Flare Blitz that any Pokemon can use? I managed to knock out a Gyarados of the same level just by using it, it makes the move super power full. [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 16:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:No, not really. We list the most possible damage that can be inflicted on Shuckle's page, but that is about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 
== Switch not working? ==
 
None of the switches on the page appear to be working. Although this article has not been edited for weeks, the move table does not show Psychic as being a STAB move, Zen Mode Darmanitan does not appear in the evobox, and none of the templates have a Psychic type border. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 15:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:Both the revisionday and currentday magic words are day of the month. So it doesn't work as it would initially appear to across months. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 22:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::Though it does have the advantage of showing Normal mode for a couple of days even if we hit a dry spell :).--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 23:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 
==Related to the wise==
I don't know if anyone attended, but when Darmanitan becomes Zen mode, it hands hold its head like if it were closing its ears, the mouth becomes closed, and the eyes don't have pupils like if they were closed. My point is... Where have we seen this before?
The three wise monkeys, Panpour, Pansear and Pansage! I don't know if he is related to the trio but I think we should add this on Trivia. [[User:Igor Castro Chucre]]
 
==Regarding shiny Zen Mode Darmanitan==
If Zen Mode is Darmanitan's Hidden Ability, only obtainable from the [[Pokémon Dream World]] and you cannot get a shiny Pokémon from the Dream World, doesn't that mean that it's technically impossible to get a shiny Zen Mode Darmanitan without hacking? [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|talk]]) 22:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 
Never mind... I just figured out the answer... [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|talk]]) 22:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 
== Zen Mode artwork? ==
 
So is there still no official Sugimori artwork for Darmanitan's Zen Mode? Where exactly is the artwork obtained from, anyway? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 12:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
:According to our Bulbanews articles, we get artwork from the [http://www.pokemon.jp/ Pokémon Daisuki Club]. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 12:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== Zen Mode at Dream World ==
 
[[User:Lorenzo The Comic|Lorenzo The Comic]] ([[User talk:Lorenzo The Comic|talk]]) 13:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC) You were right, it seems that Zen Mode Darmanitan has no [[Dream World]] artwork, or even a footprint unlike Pirouette Forme [[Meloetta]] who functions perfectly fine when hacked to be available outside of battle. A few weird things happen with Zen Mode Darmanitan, such as if one were to visit its Dream Home, the visiting Pokémon will be invisible at first, but after it moves from one part of the room back into the lobby it will re-appear. But this time, the visitor Pokémon stays frozen and cannot be clicked on.
 
== Error in categories ==
Hello, i noticed a small inaccuracy in Darmantian's categories: it is listed as both "part of a 2 stage evolutionary line" and "not part of an evolutionary line", i suspect the second being put back when the B/W games were still being revealed, can someone remove this misleading category now? Thx [[User:Imadmagician|Imadmagician]] ([[User talk:Imadmagician|talk]]) 14:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
:It was actually a problem with the template being used to show Darmanitan's forms in the Evolution section, which I had previously added as a compromise to the original format, which only showed Darumaka evolving into Darmanitan, except sometimes it was "Standard Mode" Darmanitan and sometimes it was "Zen Mode" Darmanitan, when the latter is not actually possible (Darmanitan's forms do not persist outside of battle, where evolution occurs). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 
== Font error in Learnset>By TM/HM category ==
I noticed that the move Psychic is in Bold (that means that it gains STAB when used by Darmanitan), which is incorrect, since it only gains STAB during Zen Mode and thus it should be writen in Italics. I tried to fix it myself, yet I was unable to do so. If someone else can please fix this. Thank you. {{unsigned|Fitifititis}}
:Read the notice at the top of this talk page. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 20:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 
== I'm very confused. ==
 
I remember that for the longest time, we only used Dream World artwork for Zenmanitan, and then at some point in recent months, I looked and saw that apparently we've not only had Sugimori art for it, but have been using it for years? And then, just today, I see that the art looks different than I remember it, but there's no previous revisions of the image, like what we see there right now is what we've had all along? I... what's going on with this? Or am I just losing it? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 05:36, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
:If by recent months you mean [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Darmanitan_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2717659&oldid=2712719 December 2017]. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 10:01, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 
==Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan Image==
 
We should use the in-game model on the infobox until we get official artwork, like on the [[Eternatus]] page. Unfortunately I'm not autoconfirmed, so can someone who is autoconfirmed upload the model to the site? [[User:Alolan Ninetales|Alolan Ninetales]] ([[User talk:Alolan Ninetales|talk]]) 20:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
== Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan ==
Why can’t I mention the irony of zen mode Galar Darmanitan? {{unsigned|GalarPony}}
 
You know instead of adding useless text you could have easily answered my question {{unsigned|GalarPony}}
 
Two different people independently decided to delete that comment. It may be due to your bad grammar and punctuation. Please also leave signatures after your comments.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 20:54, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
:Alrighty, this is why it doesn't belong. At best, galarian zen mode darmanitan being a fiery snowmonkey instead of being chill is a trivia point. And when it comes to trivia, if you can draw a conclusion about said trivia just from looking at the page, it's not notable. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 00:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
::I concluded that if two different people who are not admins decided to delete that information it's not established yet, so I tried with an argument. Thanks for the clarification, which really should appear sooner. But if not as trivia, could such information appear in the origin section where you can clearly find information about three wise monkeys, which doesn't explain galarian zen mode, that seems to represent opposite - it looks evil-like, puts palms near ears to hear more and has open eyes to see more.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 
==Galarian Darmanitan Origin==
The page says it resembles Santa Claus but I believe its head and beard are more Hindu or Sikh-inspired. The protrusion on its head sort of resembles a turban and its beard more closely resembles Eastern styles. I would say it fits better with the original Darmanitan's Buddism influence but would be keen to get another opinion. '''<sup>[[user:Emp|Emp]], out</sup>''' 22:23, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
:Seconded; I came to this page to ask the same question. Saying ice type plus white beard equals Santa is a bit of a leap! [[User:SJ|SJ]] ([[User talk:SJ|talk]]) 11:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
::I've done some further research and I'm almost certain that's what they're going for; the religions are all Dharmic so it's even in the Pokémon's name! I've changed the article to reflect this. '''<sup>[[user:Emp|Emp]], out</sup>''' 13:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 
==Galarian Zen Mode Art==
The current image used for the Galarian Zen Mode appears to be a cropped version of its appearance in Sword & Shield (the same applies to Eiscue's Noice form), as opposed to being official art (as can also be evidenced by not matching the pose seen in HOME). Since there does not appear to be any official art that has been released, for consistency with Mimikyu's busted form, Eternamax Eternatus, and the other colors of Florges for instance, should this (and Eiscue) not use the HOME sprite? [[User:WOLKsite|WOLKsite]] ([[User talk:WOLKsite|talk]]) 16:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
:I think using the HOME sprite would make sense. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 17:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== "Unovan" Darmanitan ==
 
What is the justification for calling the regular Darmanitan '''Unovan Darmanitan''' as opposed to simply '''regular Darmanitan'''?
 
Does "Unovan" not imply that it would be a regional form? Which would be a basis for making false assumptions about its obtainability and breeding mechanics.
 
If you breed ANY Darmanitan in Galar, due to Galar's influence it will result in a Galarian Darumaka.
 
If you breed ANY Darmanitan ANYWHERE outside of Galar, it will result in regular Darmanitan, regardless if the process happened in Unova, Kalos, Alola or some Ultra space.
 
I get that "Unovan" is chosen because Darmanitan was introduced in Gen5, but that does not in any way make it a regional form, right?
 
If there is anything official that follows that kind of usage of regional adjectives, I'd really like to know about it.
 
--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph Charon]] ([[User talk:Saiph charon|talk]]) 16:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Frome the Regional Form page: «Hau refers to the Meowth the player's mom owns as a "Kantonian Meowth" in Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.» There you go.--[[User:MissDelibirda|MissDelibirda]] ([[User talk:MissDelibirda|talk]]) 19:40, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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