Talk:Corviknight (Pokémon)

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Korean Name Origin

아마까오 is based off of 아마 -> "armor" and 까오,the onomatopoeia of a raven's caw --Buddy002 (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Chinese Name Origin

鋼鎧鴉 -> 鋼 "steel" (In fact, the same character used for the steel type) 鎧 "armor" 鴉 "raven/crow" Together, it means a crow with steel armor.--Buddy002 (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Origin

Rather than a jackdaw, it's more likely that it is based on the common raven. They are the largest corvids found in Britain and live in the Tower of London. There is an English legend that England would not fall to invaders as long as there were ravens at the Tower of London, further tying in to its "Knight" aesthetic. Also, the official page on pokemon.com refers to it as the "Raven Pokemon". - unsigned comment from Oligyra (talkcontribs)

While your other points may be valid (though Corviknight could be a mix of this and that for that matter), Pokémon categories are not a good source of origin. Grookey was determined to not be a chimp, and Bidoof is clearly not a mouse, for example. Also, don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes! Kikugi (talk) 00:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Which characteristics of Corviknight do you feel favor a jackdaw over a raven? The only piece of evidence given in the article right now is that jackdaws are found throughout Great Britain. Ravens are also residents of the British Isles, though, and they are prominent in myths and legends of the region, so that’s hardly a jackdaw-exclusive factor. In terms of physical appearance, Corviknight has a number of features that are spot-on for a raven, including its thick, powerful beak with prominent nasal bristles, the shaggy, beard-like throat feathers, its pointed crest feathers, and its overall bulk and heft. Jackdaws, in comparison, are smaller and sleeker with more slender proportions. Ravens also have metallic, iridescent, blue-black plumage that likely inspired the armor, whereas jackdaws are grayer in coloration. In short, Corviknight only resembles a jackdaw inasmuch as most black corvids look broadly similar to one another. I’m a lifelong birder who is quite familiar with both species, and this Pokémon is immediately recognizable as a raven while only sharing the most general traits with a jackdaw. Combined with the specific category (which are admittedly unreliable at times) designating it as a raven and the extensive folklore and popular culture connections surrounding ravens in the UK, I strongly believe that the Common Raven should be listed as the primary inspiration for Corviknight. Perhaps the origin could be phrased along the lines of “Corviknight is based primarily on a raven, though it shares some similarities with other corvids like crows, jackdaws, and rooks.” ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I've never even heard of jackdaw until now and I don't think a lot of people do either. I also believe the raven is the most likely source of inspiration bird-wise.Robbie (talk) 19:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
We could say that it has traits of various corvids, such as jackdaws and ravens, which are both native to the British isles. Personally I agree with it being more raven-like with its build and size but its crest resembles a jackdaw's more. LadyBrightcynder (talk) 19:08, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Jackdaws lack the hooked beak that both Corviknight and Ravens share. Corviknight also displays characteristic raven chin fluff. The page should be amended to reflect the inspiration was clearly the common raven.Darktornaydoe (talk) 05:25, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure who went in and immediately filled in the trivia for this page with a shoot-from-the-hip ID for the source of the inspiration in the first place, but it should really be edited to include the raven connection. The actual physical design, the specific designation of the Pokemon, and the raven's prominence in UK culture, as mentioned above, all match better than the passing resemblance with a jackdaw. I've seen the whole "Corviknight is a jackdaw" thing pop up on several YouTube videos and gaming news sites, because these "journalists" are googling Corviknight and seeing Bulbapedia's link first with this inaccurate, incomplete information. There's a similar problem with the Grookey page saying it is based on an Ecuadorian Squirrel Monkey: way too specific for origin trivia just because one individual with editing privileges thought they saw some similarities. ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 02:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Early Stat Calculation

At one point Corviknight is shown in battle at level 60 with 200 HP. Calculating this reveals that it has a minimum base HP of 61 if the one shown has a 0 HP IV and 0 HP EVs and a maximum of 108 with 31 HP IV and 252 HP EVs. At and IV of 15 and 126 EVs the calculations land it at 85 which very well may be its actual base HP. ExecutiveElf (talk) 06:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

We can't really speculate on that sort of thing at this stage. Even ignoring the fact that Sword and Shield might change the way that stats are calculated, it's possible for details like that to change between pre-release stuff and the actual the game. ~ Dannyboy601 (talk) 02:36, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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