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Lots of people say "RNG is cheating" only because "bulbapedia says so!!"; similar to how we had to prove Serebii's 'confirmed' Shiny Zekrom/Reshiram false, having unsubstantiated text isn't the way to go. Do a Google search to see the various arguments around the net... the consensus is pretty clear. Uninformed plebs say RNG is cheating; those who actually know what RNG abuse is and how it works say it isn't. It's just manipulation. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 11:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | Lots of people say "RNG is cheating" only because "bulbapedia says so!!"; similar to how we had to prove Serebii's 'confirmed' Shiny Zekrom/Reshiram false, having unsubstantiated text isn't the way to go. Do a Google search to see the various arguments around the net... the consensus is pretty clear. Uninformed plebs say RNG is cheating; those who actually know what RNG abuse is and how it works say it isn't. It's just manipulation. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 11:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
:"The primary complaint against cheating methods is that it takes no particular ability to exploit a glitch or enter a cheat code, and thus detracts from the point and spirit of the game, making it less enjoyable". Taken from the Criticism section of the article itself. While some may argue that RNG abuse isn't within the spirit of the game it, if anything, takes MORE skill and ability than standard play, and certainly more than using cheating devices such as Action Replays and Gamesharks. I decided to alter the description of RNG abuse in the main article as a result. I've not removed it completely, as people may still view it as cheating, but I tried my best to make it clear that views are mixed and that they should make their own opinion about it. [[User:Kyogreblast|Kyogreblast]] ([[User talk:Kyogreblast|talk]]) 00:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | :"The primary complaint against cheating methods is that it takes no particular ability to exploit a glitch or enter a cheat code, and thus detracts from the point and spirit of the game, making it less enjoyable". Taken from the Criticism section of the article itself. While some may argue that RNG abuse isn't within the spirit of the game it, if anything, takes MORE skill and ability than standard play, and certainly more than using cheating devices such as Action Replays and Gamesharks. I decided to alter the description of RNG abuse in the main article as a result. I've not removed it completely, as people may still view it as cheating, but I tried my best to make it clear that views are mixed and that they should make their own opinion about it. [[User:Kyogreblast|Kyogreblast]] ([[User talk:Kyogreblast|talk]]) 00:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
::IMO glitches don't belong here either. Cheating should be using any external device or software that is not intended to be used with the game. So using an alternate GTS is cheating (as you're using a server you're not supposed to be), but RNG manipulation is not. Understanding how the game works and using it to your advantage is not cheating. Would intentionally having a Pokémon with a high base speed stat use moves with a high critical hit rate in Generation I be considered cheating because you are using knowledge of game mechanics to your advantage? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||