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:But I dunno. What's everyone else think, anyway? To me, Brock's Brock, Misty's Misty, in every iteration, unlike May, Ash, and Dawn. Red's silent as night, Ash won't stop screaming at a Mankey for his {{AP|hat}}. Sure, they know different people, but hey, if Brock and Misty get divided among their ''similar'' counterparts, jeez, Koga's certainly going to need to be divided among his crazy ninja, evil Team Rocket member, and trap-setting Poison guy selves. And Lance... hoo, that guy's different in each iteration. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 16:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | :But I dunno. What's everyone else think, anyway? To me, Brock's Brock, Misty's Misty, in every iteration, unlike May, Ash, and Dawn. Red's silent as night, Ash won't stop screaming at a Mankey for his {{AP|hat}}. Sure, they know different people, but hey, if Brock and Misty get divided among their ''similar'' counterparts, jeez, Koga's certainly going to need to be divided among his crazy ninja, evil Team Rocket member, and trap-setting Poison guy selves. And Lance... hoo, that guy's different in each iteration. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 16:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:: Why not just split 'em because of size, not because of incarnation? Split the ones that are big enough to require it and leave alone the rest. No need to split all the gym leaders if not all of them need splitting. | :: Why not just split 'em because of size, not because of incarnation? Split the ones that are big enough to require it and leave alone the rest. No need to split all the gym leaders if not all of them need splitting. | ||
::As for where the mangas would go... whichever ends smaller out of Brock (anime) and Brock (games), I suppose. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 16:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::No, please, God, no! Characters like Ash, May and Dawn have separate articles because they are considered as different characters from their game counterparts (this applies to all playable characters). Characters such as Brock and Misty are just adaptations of the same characters in different canons. Everyone who thinks that Red and Ash, Blue and Gary etc. are all the same character is a N00B! Read the [[Inter-media counterparts]] article for further explanation. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | ::::No, please, God, no! Characters like Ash, May and Dawn have separate articles because they are considered as different characters from their game counterparts (this applies to all playable characters). Characters such as Brock and Misty are just adaptations of the same characters in different canons. Everyone who thinks that Red and Ash, Blue and Gary etc. are all the same character is a N00B! Read the [[Inter-media counterparts]] article for further explanation. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Anyway, I personally don't care if anime Misty/Brock and game Misty/Brock are the same character or not. Split 'em already and lets see what it looks like. It can always be reverted if it isn't working, right? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 09:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | Anyway, I personally don't care if anime Misty/Brock and game Misty/Brock are the same character or not. Split 'em already and lets see what it looks like. It can always be reverted if it isn't working, right? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 09:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
They are fine NOT SPLIT!!!! We don't need to split them, It's is fine as one big article. -- | They are fine NOT SPLIT!!!! We don't need to split them, It's is fine as one big article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 11:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
Big articles are good in a sense but it is better to split them. Because Brock in the anime and Brock in the games have a lot of different information which I don't think is good in just one article. And its also much easier for anyone visiting Bulbapedia. | Big articles are good in a sense but it is better to split them. Because Brock in the anime and Brock in the games have a lot of different information which I don't think is good in just one article. And its also much easier for anyone visiting Bulbapedia. | ||
If May can get two different articles why not Brock? | If May can get two different articles why not Brock? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
'''WARNING: This page is 33 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.''' | '''WARNING: This page is 33 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.''' | ||
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::But that's only because of those freakin' templates and images. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ::But that's only because of those freakin' templates and images. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::The images and templates are needed for the article. | :::The images and templates are needed for the article. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup>[ 15:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::Thing is... we'd have to change them 04824143194104712 links to Brock, if we did split it.. but then again, editing this page out of the 'edit this page' tab instead of some sections at a time... whoa, that'd be one HUGE code. But it seems just good as one article, but at the same time I think we should spilt it. (Speaking of Brock, I have Art <s>Brock</s>... :c) [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ::::Thing is... we'd have to change them 04824143194104712 links to Brock, if we did split it.. but then again, editing this page out of the 'edit this page' tab instead of some sections at a time... whoa, that'd be one HUGE code. But it seems just good as one article, but at the same time I think we should spilt it. (Speaking of Brock, I have Art <s>Brock</s>... :c) [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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:::Ah, that's right. Bots. In that case... I say spilt the article.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 20:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | :::Ah, that's right. Bots. In that case... I say spilt the article.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 20:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
Please don't split it! There's no need to! If we split this one, does that mean will have to split EVERY SINGLE Pokémon's, move's and character's in the anime section, too??? -- | Please don't split it! There's no need to! If we split this one, does that mean will have to split EVERY SINGLE Pokémon's, move's and character's in the anime section, too??? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 21:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Of course not. This article is being split because it is too long. Using this to set that kind of precedent would be completely stupid. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | :Of course not. This article is being split because it is too long. Using this to set that kind of precedent would be completely stupid. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Indeed, and also, every single Pokémon, move and character aren't notable enough in the anime to have their own articles anyway. The main reason I suggested it for Misty and Brock is because they are highly notable in the anime, with Misty being a main character for ''over 200 episodes'' and Brock being a main character for ''over 400 episodes''. A lot of Pokémon, characters and moves (Eg. [[Lt. Surge]] and {{p|Porygon}}) only appeared in one episode, making their anime anime apperances nowhere near notable enough to have their own seperate articles. [[User:Sato|Sato]] 10:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | ::Indeed, and also, every single Pokémon, move and character aren't notable enough in the anime to have their own articles anyway. The main reason I suggested it for Misty and Brock is because they are highly notable in the anime, with Misty being a main character for ''over 200 episodes'' and Brock being a main character for ''over 400 episodes''. A lot of Pokémon, characters and moves (Eg. [[Lt. Surge]] and {{p|Porygon}}) only appeared in one episode, making their anime anime apperances nowhere near notable enough to have their own seperate articles. [[User:Sato|Sato]] 10:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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# Lastly, it's Payback to Ryguy for calling me Opitmus and not doing anything about it... | # Lastly, it's Payback to Ryguy for calling me Opitmus and not doing anything about it... | ||
<br>Haha, yes...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc><sup><span style=" color:navy">[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</span></sup>Hi''' 11:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC) So which bot? | <br>Haha, yes...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc><sup><span style=" color:navy">[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</span></sup>Hi''' 11:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC) So which bot? | ||
::Isn't there some sort of thing that explains just what the warning means by "some browsers"? I've never had a problem editing a page, even when it's approaching 60, even. Sure, I use the most updated version of Firefox... far as I know, all it'd mean is portable ones. The Wii's, the DS's, a mobile one... well, how many people browse wikis on those with the intention of editing them...? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | ::Isn't there some sort of thing that explains just what the warning means by "some browsers"? I've never had a problem editing a page, even when it's approaching 60, even. Sure, I use the most updated version of Firefox... far as I know, all it'd mean is portable ones. The Wii's, the DS's, a mobile one... well, how many people browse wikis on those with the intention of editing them...? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
I personally don't think the article should be split. The Brock in the anime is the same Brock who is in the video games. The same goes for Misty. The articles are great the way they are, they don't need to be split! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | I personally don't think the article should be split. The Brock in the anime is the same Brock who is in the video games. The same goes for Misty. The articles are great the way they are, they don't need to be split! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== Tauros == | == Tauros == | ||
I, personally, think it should go under "Returned" because he ''did'' catch it and he ''did'' RETURN it to Ash! | I, personally, think it should go under "Returned" because he ''did'' catch it and he ''did'' RETURN it to Ash! [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 17:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:How about GAVE AWAY? Or maybe just TEMPORARY. The thing is, he never actually had it for any amount of time, so it's difficult to place. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span> | :How about GAVE AWAY? Or maybe just TEMPORARY. The thing is, he never actually had it for any amount of time, so it's difficult to place. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 17:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Well hr didn't really own it. All he did was catch it with Ash's PokéBall. I think it's fine how it is. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 22:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC) | ::Well hr didn't really own it. All he did was catch it with Ash's PokéBall. I think it's fine how it is. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 22:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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"In Yellow Version, he speaks directly to the player about his training to become a Pokémon Breeder after he is defeated, despite breeding not being present in the game. This is a reference to the goals of his anime counterpart." | "In Yellow Version, he speaks directly to the player about his training to become a Pokémon Breeder after he is defeated, despite breeding not being present in the game. This is a reference to the goals of his anime counterpart." | ||
I noticed this in the trivia section, but it's mentioned pretty much word for word earlier in the article. Does that make it unnecessary to the trivia section? I was going to go ahead and remove it, but I'm new here and I wanted to make sure that I was right in thinking this. I noticed this same issue or similar issue on a couple of other Gym Leader articles as well. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal Talian]] 05:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | I noticed this in the trivia section, but it's mentioned pretty much word for word earlier in the article. Does that make it unnecessary to the trivia section? I was going to go ahead and remove it, but I'm new here and I wanted to make sure that I was right in thinking this. I noticed this same issue or similar issue on a couple of other Gym Leader articles as well. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal Talian]] 05:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Yes, it's already stated early in the article, so it's unnecessary for the article to repeat it, feel free to remove it. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 05:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Great, done. Also, I noticed the bullet right below that, about the HG/SS trade also being an anime reference could be easily integrated into the main article. Should this be done? Or should it be left as trivia? Are we trying to reduce trivia sections where possible? [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal Talian]] 05:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::Leave this one as trivia, as we can't be sure about whether it could be related to his anime counterpart or not. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 06:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Pokemon Black and White 2 == | |||
This article needs to be updated with his team from the pokemon world tournament in Black and White, just not sure how it would be done and formatted exactly. Any ideas? [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] ([[User talk:Dragonace|talk]]) 15:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sure it will be added once someone has had a chance to battle with him and can confirm what his team his just like the other gym leaders. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 15:22, 13 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== It Itches == | |||
When brock throws out his last pokemon in hesrtgold/soulsilver he says | |||
"Ha ha ha ha! It itches! It itches!" | |||
WHY!? Why does he say that!? | |||
[[User:Pokemon nomekop|Pokemon nomekop]] ([[User talk:Pokemon nomekop|talk]]) 01:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Anime art? == | |||
The last picture in the images section at the bottom is labeled as being "for the Advance Generation (anime) series." Shouldn't it go on the [[Brock (anime)]] page, then, and not this one...? --[[User:FnrrfYgmSchnish|FnrrfYgmSchnish]] ([[User talk:FnrrfYgmSchnish|talk]]) 02:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Gym trainers? Martial artist? == | |||
In Origins, are the two people with Brock gym trainers? They don't battle Red, but they're shown to be on good terms with Brock. I know that gym trainers aren't much of a popular topic, but, I'm just asking. Also, in Zensho, Brock is seen wearing pants with a belt, but no shirt. Is it possible that Brock is a martial artist, or is this something separate? [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 18:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||