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Considering the fact that many of the pillars seem to describe N (especially on floors three and four) or some sort of relation to him, and the fact that the numbers corresponding to the corners one turns are prime numbers (which is related to N in his mathematical intelligence and is also acknowledged in composition of his music), the "king" mentioned in the pillars all over are most likely a prophecy of N's doings, something an ancestor has done, or some other concept related directly to N. Just bringing up the idea, feel free to discuss, refute, add some of this to the article, or not add it to the article. [[User:Namadu|Namadu]] ([[User talk:Namadu|talk]]) 23:00, 26 September 2012 (UTC) | Considering the fact that many of the pillars seem to describe N (especially on floors three and four) or some sort of relation to him, and the fact that the numbers corresponding to the corners one turns are prime numbers (which is related to N in his mathematical intelligence and is also acknowledged in composition of his music), the "king" mentioned in the pillars all over are most likely a prophecy of N's doings, something an ancestor has done, or some other concept related directly to N. Just bringing up the idea, feel free to discuss, refute, add some of this to the article, or not add it to the article. [[User:Namadu|Namadu]] ([[User talk:Namadu|talk]]) 23:00, 26 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
: I believe it is fairly clear that N is a descendant of the Abyssal Ruins king. One of the translated passages says, "King talks to all beings," which would obviously include Pokémon. If you talk to Zinzolin in BW2 after exploring the ruins, he says, "If that king has descendants, maybe those special powers were passed down..." Concordia furthermore indicates that N's ability to talk to Pokémon was something he possessed at birth, rather than being something he learned by living with them. Add it all together (no pun intended), and it seems fairly obvious N is implied to be that king's descendant. [[User:Silmina|Silmina]] ([[User talk:Silmina|talk]]) 14:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Misinterpretation Regarding the Anime == | == Misinterpretation Regarding the Anime == | ||
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== Map in Black 2 / White 2 == | == Map in Black 2 / White 2 == | ||
It appears that the map between B1W1 and B2W2 is the same, from what I've done in my copy of White 2. Items are the same and in the exact same locations. Would like to have somebody confirm, but this appears to be the case from what I've seen. [[User:Sir VG|Sir VG]] ([[User talk:Sir VG|talk]]) 11:18, 17 October 2012 (UTC) | It appears that the map between B1W1 and B2W2 is the same, from what I've done in my copy of White 2. Items are the same and in the exact same locations. Would like to have somebody confirm, but this appears to be the case from what I've seen. [[User:Sir VG|Sir VG]] ([[User talk:Sir VG|talk]]) 11:18, 17 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, it's definitely the same. I've checked and all the item placement and stuff are the same between the games. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 18:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::Nothing? The spaces are the key to this. (Though, some guessing would have likely put us in the same direction.) To list them: ③ is Zekrom or Reshiram, ④ is Reshiram or Zekrom, ⑤ might be the Plates or Kyurem (This is still unusual), and ⑥ should be Arceus. Granted, this is speculation until prove to be correct or incorrect. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | ::Nothing? The spaces are the key to this. (Though, some guessing would have likely put us in the same direction.) To list them: ③ is Zekrom or Reshiram, ④ is Reshiram or Zekrom, ⑤ might be the Plates or Kyurem (This is still unusual), and ⑥ should be Arceus. Granted, this is speculation until prove to be correct or incorrect. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:: >_< Just curious, what version do you have? I do see that there is at least one mistake in my reply above. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | :: >_< Just curious, what version do you have? I do see that there is at least one mistake in my reply above. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 16:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
::: I have White 2. Arceus can't be in the last space because, as I noted, it is eight characters long. If the theory I heard is correct and the King is N's distant ancestor, the last blank could fill in all eight spaces with "Harmonia". Odd as that may be. --[[User:Alxprit|Alxprit]] ([[User talk:Alxprit|talk]]) 17:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Yep, that was one of the mistakes. Harmonia could be it due to the connection to the word. In any case, this might take several languages of the games to figure it out. (Mostly since the spaces should differ between languages which would remove several choices. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Symbols == | == Symbols == | ||
I'm getting the symbol's images. Is there an image naming thing I should do? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 16:13, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | I'm getting the symbol's images. Is there an image naming thing I should do? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 16:13, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Gave up on that...anyway, our {{de|Unterwasserruine#Antike Schriftzeichen|German counterpart}} has all the symbols. What are the proper channels to ask if we can use them? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I have all the symbols from within the Abyssal Ruins. Do we want all of the symbols or just the symbols that need to have for the placeholders? [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 05:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::It'd probably be better to just have four images, one for the whole message on each floor, rather than one for every individual character. The individual characters are kind of trivial, IMO. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Reshiram/Zekrom Symbol Meaning?== | |||
Has no one ever thought up that because the symbols switch between versions, they represent the legendary Pokémon, considering it states "King defeated __ alone." and "__ joined King in a day." {{unsigned|Pipproductionco}} | |||
:It has been thought of countless times, but it still remains nothing more than speculation. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 04:24, 4 April 2015 (UTC) | |||