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Absy loves glitches and programming, would love be to join![[User:AbsolKitty|AbsolKitty]] ([[User talk:AbsolKitty|talk]]) 05:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
== Join ==
== Join ==
 
Can I join?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 18:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Can I join?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 18:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:Just sign your name (No date or fancy signatures needed) on the participants section. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:Just sign your name (No date or fancy signatures needed) on the participants section. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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I'd like to join Project glitchdex. I have found info on alot of different sites and would like to help improve articals. ''''''Missingno909''' 21:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)'''
I'd like to join Project glitchdex. I have found info on alot of different sites and would like to help improve articals. ''''''Missingno909''' 21:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)'''
:You do not need to ask permission to join. Simply add your name to the list. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
:You do not need to ask permission to join. Simply add your name to the list. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
How can I join? [[User:TheOriginalOne|TheOriginalOne]] 21:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


== Glitch Infobox? ==
== Glitch Infobox? ==


While adding sprites to the glitch articles I noticed that some of the articles had the standard Pokémon infobox (with the categories removed), while others had none whatsoever. I also noticed that the majority of the infoboxes had "N/A" or "None" in most of the fields while the relevant information was in a list in the article itself. I propose that we make a seperate infobox for glitch Pokémon that includes relevant glitch-specific information (hexadecimal identifier, Pokédex number, equivalents in other versions, whether its Pokédex entry is terminated correctly, etc). Good idea? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 20:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
While adding sprites to the glitch articles I noticed that some of the articles had the standard Pokémon infobox (with the categories removed), while others had none whatsoever. I also noticed that the majority of the infoboxes had "N/A" or "None" in most of the fields while the relevant information was in a list in the article itself. I propose that we make a seperate infobox for glitch Pokémon that includes relevant glitch-specific information (hexadecimal identifier, Pokédex number, equivalents in other versions, whether its Pokédex entry is terminated correctly, etc). Good idea? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 20:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seperate infobox, hm? I think it's a good idea.. like, instead of the regular stuff, it'd have the corresponding Mew glitch Special hex and stuff. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 20:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seperate infobox, hm? I think it's a good idea.. like, instead of the regular stuff, it'd have the corresponding Mew glitch Special hex and stuff. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 20:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm in agreement here.  An infobox for the glitch Pokémon is a good idea.   
::I'm in agreement here.  An infobox for the glitch Pokémon is a good idea.   
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''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!<span style="color:#FF0000">--</span> quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!<span style="color:#FF0000">--</span> quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
</small> 20:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
</small> 20:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I changed around the infobox slightly. Got rid of the "height" and "weight" and "species" stuff (that stuff is pretty much meaningless in terms of glitches) and replaced it with Hex ID and Version. When should we start placing this thing on the glitch articles? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 20:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I changed around the infobox slightly. Got rid of the "height" and "weight" and "species" stuff (that stuff is pretty much meaningless in terms of glitches) and replaced it with Hex ID and Version. When should we start placing this thing on the glitch articles? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 20:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I already put it on the [[MissingNo.]] article to start with.  <small><span style="color:#FF0000">--</span>
I already put it on the [[MissingNo.]] article to start with.  <small><span style="color:#FF0000">--</span>
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!<span style="color:#FF0000">--</span> quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!<span style="color:#FF0000">--</span> quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
</small> 20:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
</small> 20:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:As you may have noticed I made separate type templates for the glitch infobox. The reason being is that the standard Pokémon type templates add the page to type categories, and consensus seems to dictate that we keep the glitch Pokémon seperate from the officially recognized ones (That and many of the glitch Pokémon have glitch types, which don't have real categories (ex. there is no Category: Pokémaniac-type Pokémon nor will there likely be one in future). [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 23:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:As you may have noticed I made separate type templates for the glitch infobox. The reason being is that the standard Pokémon type templates add the page to type categories, and consensus seems to dictate that we keep the glitch Pokémon seperate from the officially recognized ones (That and many of the glitch Pokémon have glitch types, which don't have real categories (ex. there is no Category: Pokémaniac-type Pokémon nor will there likely be one in future). '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 23:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm gonna re-add the height and weight stuff.  Really, height and weight aren't relevant to "official" Pokémon either, except for weight in the calculation of Low Kick and Grass Knot damage.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].  See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 21:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::I'm gonna re-add the height and weight stuff.  Really, height and weight aren't relevant to "official" Pokémon either, except for weight in the calculation of Low Kick and Grass Knot damage.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].  See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 21:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::OK, the infobox's protected for some reason, so I'll have to wait for a sysop to add it.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].  See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 21:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::OK, the infobox's protected for some reason, so I'll have to wait for a sysop to add it.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].  See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 21:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Categorization ==
== Categorization ==


Okay. I've looked over a few articles and from what I can tell, the consensus within Bulbapedia is to '''not''' treat the glitch Pokémon as "real Pokémon". On the [[MissingNo.]] article there was actually an edit war with some people attempting to classify it as a "Pokémon", but from what I can tell the clear consensus is that MissingNo is not a "Pokémon". To that end, I modified the Template:GlitchPkmnInfobox so that it doesn't put the page in any Pokémon categories. However, recently MissingNo. was put into Category:Normal-type Pokémon again. Should it be acceptable to include glitches in the type categories? I'm only asking because I don't want to revert that edit and inadvertently start another edit war. [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 01:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I've looked over a few articles and from what I can tell, the consensus within Bulbapedia is to '''not''' treat the glitch Pokémon as "real Pokémon". On the [[MissingNo.]] article there was actually an edit war with some people attempting to classify it as a "Pokémon", but from what I can tell the clear consensus is that MissingNo is not a "Pokémon". To that end, I modified the Template:GlitchPkmnInfobox so that it doesn't put the page in any Pokémon categories. However, recently MissingNo. was put into Category:Normal-type Pokémon again. Should it be acceptable to include glitches in the type categories? I'm only asking because I don't want to revert that edit and inadvertently start another edit war. '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 01:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Eh, I think we should.. if it happens to share a normal type, however. So no Category:Bird-type Pokémon. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 02:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Eh, I think we should.. if it happens to share a normal type, however. So no Category:Bird-type Pokémon. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 02:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


== Notability criteria ==
== Notability criteria ==


Here's something that's really been bugging me. Where exactly do we draw the line between a notable glitch Pokémon and a non-notable one? Obviously [[MissingNo.]] is notable, and apparently the 20-something other Gen I glitches listed are too... but what about the 120-something others that ''aren't''? Furthermore, should glitch items and attacks deserve pages? Even pages such as List of glitch items...? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 03:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Here's something that's really been bugging me. Where exactly do we draw the line between a notable glitch Pokémon and a non-notable one? Obviously [[MissingNo.]] is notable, and apparently the 20-something other Gen I glitches listed are too... but what about the 120-something others that ''aren't''? Furthermore, should glitch items and attacks deserve pages? Even pages such as List of glitch items...? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 03:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:No glitch items, attacks, and Pokémon shouldn't even have pages. They are errors in a game's data and shouldn't even exist.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 03:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:No glitch items, attacks, and Pokémon shouldn't even have pages. They are errors in a game's data and shouldn't even exist.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 03:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::But they ''do'' exist, so why pretend they don't? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 04:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::But they ''do'' exist, so why pretend they don't? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 04:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Eh, don't listen to him. Although, List of glitch items sounds like a greater idea than to just give seperate pages to them-- as I think the only 'notable' glitch item is [[Teru-sama]] from Gold and Silver... same thing goes for the glitch moves, like TM07 and the like. It's kind of a mystery on what the TM moves do, really. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 15:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Eh, don't listen to him. Although, List of glitch items sounds like a greater idea than to just give seperate pages to them-- as I think the only 'notable' glitch item is [[Teru-sama]] from Gold and Silver... same thing goes for the glitch moves, like TM07 and the like. It's kind of a mystery on what the TM moves do, really. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 15:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::If they ''do'' exist, why don't we have ''all'' of them? huh?!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 22:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::If they ''do'' exist, why don't we have ''all'' of them? huh?!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 22:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::::And who ever said I was a ''him''?!!!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 22:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::::And who ever said I was a ''him''?!!!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 22:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::The effects of the TMxx moves are documented, actually. And would anyone have issues with me making pages for the other [http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex2 100-something glitch Pokémon] not listed yet? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::The effects of the TMxx moves are documented, actually. And would anyone have issues with me making pages for the other [http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex2 100-something glitch Pokémon] not listed yet? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


Here's what I think.
Here's what I think.
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:Dude, that is not needed. Nobody is gonna move Missigno. to ''Missigno. (Pokémon)''. Why? Because it's not a Pokémon! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Dude, that is not needed. Nobody is gonna move Missigno. to ''Missigno. (Pokémon)''. Why? Because it's not a Pokémon! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::But you never know when you get the extreme Glitch Pokémon extremist who tries to do something like moving [[MissingNo.]] to [[MissingNo. (Pokémon)]].  True, I did at one point seriously consider doing so, but somehow forgot.
::But you never know when you get the extreme Glitch Pokémon extremist who tries to do something like moving [[MissingNo.]] to [[MissingNo. (Pokémon)]].  True, I did at one point seriously consider doing so, but somehow forgot.
:::IMHO this is unnecessary. What would this suffix accomplish, in terms of disambiguation? The Pokémon articles are titled like that to disambiguate them versus articles on significant members of that species ([[Pikachu]] disambiguates to [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] and [[Ash's Pikachu]]) since individual Pokémon usually don't have their own names (Ash's Pikachu is just called Pikachu, as are most of the Pikachu in the world). AFAIK "MissingNo." or ".4" wouldn't refer to anything else, and even if we did decide otherwise, making a template to link to them would be a bit excessive - ''how'' many times would we link to one of these articles in article space? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 16:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:::IMHO this is unnecessary. What would this suffix accomplish, in terms of disambiguation? The Pokémon articles are titled like that to disambiguate them versus articles on significant members of that species ([[Pikachu]] disambiguates to [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] and [[Ash's Pikachu]]) since individual Pokémon usually don't have their own names (Ash's Pikachu is just called Pikachu, as are most of the Pikachu in the world). AFAIK "MissingNo." or ".4" wouldn't refer to anything else, and even if we did decide otherwise, making a template to link to them would be a bit excessive - ''how'' many times would we link to one of these articles in article space?'''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 16:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:And the old argument opens up again....  Recently, [[PkMn]] was moved to [[PkMn (Glitch Pokémon)]], because [[PkMn]] was to be made a disambig. page.  See, PKMN is a common abbreviation for [[Pokémon]].  THERE'S the necessity for the (Glitch Pokémon) suffix.  On that page at least.  And, just my opinion here, I don't think it would look very professional on Bulbapedia's part to have one Glitch Pokémon article with said suffix, and no such thing for the others, see where I'm getting at here?  <small>I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]]</small> 10:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:And the old argument opens up again....  Recently, [[PkMn]] was moved to {{redlink|pkMn|PkMn (Glitch Pokémon)}}, because [[PkMn]] was to be made a disambig. page.  See, PKMN is a common abbreviation for [[Pokémon]].  THERE'S the necessity for the (Glitch Pokémon) suffix.  On that page at least.  And, just my opinion here, I don't think it would look very professional on Bulbapedia's part to have one Glitch Pokémon article with said suffix, and no such thing for the others, see where I'm getting at here?  <small>I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]]</small> 10:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


== Glitch moves ==
== Glitch moves ==
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* i used a gameshark on yellow for mewtwo and instead got a articuno with a oddish facing you sprite and it knows blizzard and flame wheel[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 01:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
* i used a gameshark on yellow for mewtwo and instead got a articuno with a oddish facing you sprite and it knows blizzard and flame wheel[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 01:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
* With my AR and my friends' Pokemon Black game, I entered 0 as the National Pokedex number in a pokemodifier and encountered a -----. It was a circle with a ? inside. I caught it and saved, and it is like a regular Pokemon except it has no moves. After teaching it Hyper Beam with my AR, I could even battle with it. It's rather interesting, although I don't know how to make a page on it. Tell me if you want more info. [email protected] [[User:Kazzam|Kazzam]] 18:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
* With my AR and my friends' Pokemon Black game, I entered 0 as the National Pokedex number in a pokemodifier and encountered a -----. It was a circle with a ? inside. I caught it and saved, and it is like a regular Pokemon except it has no moves. After teaching it Hyper Beam with my AR, I could even battle with it. It's rather interesting, although I don't know how to make a page on it. Tell me if you want more info. [email protected] [[User:Kazzam|Kazzam]] 18:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
* I was arguing with my sister because I wanted the GB Sounds on and she didn't. So, I discovered that if you...  :
  -Fly to Cinnabar Island;
  -Head south and start surfing;
  -Head east to Route 20;
  -Turn on the GB Sounds;
  -Head west to Cinnabar Island (water part);
  -Turn off the GB Sounds
The music will completely fade. [[User:TheOriginalOne|TheOriginalOne]] 20:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I found a glitch on Red a long time ago where I saved the game right in front of the nurse lady in the pokemon center in lavender town. I started the game back up, and I couldnt move, but my player would turn. it was a long time ago so sorry, I do not remember all the details.  I have never been able to do it again either. i dont think i had beaten the 4th gym yet.[[User:Hjmott|Hjmott]] 16:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
i was testing with my mewtwo (special stat of 255) and i found a trainer named 14S [tile][tile]. i have notes on the glitch and i was wondering how to make a glitch trainer page. [[User:Creepis11|Creepis11]] ([[User talk:Creepis11|talk]]) 23:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


== Movelist/evolution templates ==
== Movelist/evolution templates ==


We need to make a Glitch Pokémon-friendly movelist template thingy, one that DOESN'T link to that of different generations, as recent edits to [['M]] prove.  Also, evolution templates.  If they won't allow us to use the regular evolution template for 'M's article, then....  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
We need to make a Glitch Pokémon-friendly movelist template thingy, one that DOESN'T link to that of different generations, as recent edits to [['M (00)|'M]] prove.  Also, evolution templates.  If they won't allow us to use the regular evolution template for 'M's article, then....  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Alright, I've created a glitch-friendly version of the EvoChart Box.  Template:Glitch Evo Box.  Fully compatible with the regular EvoCharts.  Now for them movelists.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Alright, I've created a glitch-friendly version of the EvoChart Box.  Template:Glitch Evo Box.  Fully compatible with the regular EvoCharts.  Now for them movelists.  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::Awesome, this will really help the Glitches that have Evolutions.--[[User:Boxman|Boxman]], a Guy who works with Glitches. 2:15, June 19 2008 (UTC)
::Awesome, this will really help the Glitches that have Evolutions.--[[User:Boxman|Boxman]], a Guy who works with Glitches. 2:15, June 19 2008 (UTC)
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We need some kind of convention for these, as they are currently all over the place.
We need some kind of convention for these, as they are currently all over the place.


Maybe GlitchRB_''##'' and Glitch_Y''##'' etc, where the # are the Hexadecimal identifiers? For example, [['M]] would be GlitchRB_00 and [[Z4]] would be GlitchY_C3. [[Five question marks#Hex 00|????? Hex 00]] could be GlitchG2_00, while [[- (glitch Pokémon)|-]] could be GlitchG3_019C and [[-----]] could be GlitchG4_0000.
Maybe GlitchRB_''##'' and Glitch_Y''##'' etc, where the # are the Hexadecimal identifiers? For example, [['M (00)|'M]] would be GlitchRB_00 and [[Z4]] would be GlitchY_C3. [[Five question marks#Hex 00|????? Hex 00]] could be GlitchG2_00, while [[- (glitch Pokémon)|-]] could be GlitchG3_019C and [[-----]] could be GlitchG4_0000.


The only problem in [[Generation I]] that I see is with Missingno. which has multiple Hex IDs, but it could simply stay the way that it is now.
The only problem in [[Generation I]] that I see is with Missingno. which has multiple Hex IDs, but it could simply stay the way that it is now.
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:Obtaining glitch Pokémon via cheating this way isn't really anything new, but if you are willing to obtain them all this way and get their base stats, movesets etc. then go ahead. We won't note that these glitches can be obtained by cheating on the pages though - that is just common sense, and only actual glitches count. What you're doing is just getting the end result of the [[Johto guard glitch]] or [[remaining HP glitch]] without bothering with the process.  
:Obtaining glitch Pokémon via cheating this way isn't really anything new, but if you are willing to obtain them all this way and get their base stats, movesets etc. then go ahead. We won't note that these glitches can be obtained by cheating on the pages though - that is just common sense, and only actual glitches count. What you're doing is just getting the end result of the [[Johto guard glitch]] or [[remaining HP glitch]] without bothering with the process.  
:As for actually getting the data by obtaining the glitches this way, you would probably be able to do some reverse maths to find out their base stats by manipulating their IVs and changing their levels. Moves would be easy - just use Rare Candies to level through every level from 1 to 100, then use the AR to go to level 101 (meaning that we won't know what move it learns at level 101, which would need to be investigated the normal way) and leveling with Rare Candies through to level 255, since Pokémon can exceed level 100 due to the [[Pokémon merge glitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
:As for actually getting the data by obtaining the glitches this way, you would probably be able to do some reverse maths to find out their base stats by manipulating their IVs and changing their levels. Moves would be easy - just use Rare Candies to level through every level from 1 to 100, then use the AR to go to level 101 (meaning that we won't know what move it learns at level 101, which would need to be investigated the normal way) and leveling with Rare Candies through to level 255, since Pokémon can exceed level 100 due to the [[Pokémon merge glitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
== XD/Colo Glitch Pokemon ==
Is there any glitch pokemon in those games? [[User:Savelijah|Savelijah]] 17:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
:Munchlax might count. It has an index number and it's still a Normal-type in XD, but it can't be used in battle and doesnt have a battle model (only an overworld model). Game freezes if you try. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 19:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
== digi skull ==
i recently was playing my platnum game with the action replay and my friend told me to breed my duskull with my porygon. well i got 5 eggs after 1 hour. so after about a week, all the eggs hached. the first 2 were normal male duskulls, the seconed 2 were shiny female duskulls, and the fith egg hatched into something odd.it had the face of a duskull but with a green eye, and its body was a  glowing hexagon.its name registered as duskull, but i've decided to call it digiskull(as in digital duskull)it only knows 2 moves, thunderbolt & nightshade, and when ever it battles a metal type or electric type, it instantly deals 50% damage. {{unsigned|Mailjesuru7}}
:You can't even breed Duskull and Porygon. Porygon can only breed with Ditto. Also, you didn't actually upload your image. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
== This is exclusive to me, right? ==
- NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE -
Pokemon White Version
=== Background peek glitch ===
Sometimes, whenever my game Card is removed, 90% of the time the game freezes normally. But the other 10 percent of the time, I just get freaky glitchy graphics. Staits turn into ramps. The tables with umbrelas in Undella Town went totally red. Trees, grass, and people disappear. What the shoe-heel is happening? {{unsigned|AWild------Appeareed}}
:Anything that happens due to removing the game card or cartridge during play isn't notable. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
== Notability ==
What are the notability requirements for glitch Pokémon in each generation? It seems that this is the way:
* Generation I: All glitch Pokémon that are available without cheating 
* Generation II: All are notable, because they are all glitch Pokémon that are available without cheating 
* Generation III: All glitch Pokémon that are available with and without cheating
* Generation IV: All glitch Pokémon that are available with and without cheating
* Generation V: All glitch Pokémon that are available with and without cheating
But [[Talk:Glitch Pokémon#Needs New Pokemon|this discussion]] has brought up many new "glitch Pokémon" which are simply Pokéstar Studios Pokémon. A video (made with an translation patch) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R9Y89UHeXY here] shows them. Are they notable for their own articles, or should they remain a minor detail? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 16:16, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
:No, I don't think anything cheating-exclusive should be considered a glitch Pokémon. However, I'm also hesistant to just delete information that is already there. It also causes issues with the index umber lists, as they are important as placeholder Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
::Cheat-only glitch Pokémon should absolutely be included in the database. Game hacking devices don't add new coding to a game--they reach into areas of the coding that weren't implemented in the finished product, or reassign existing values. Those Pokémon are in the game cartridge as placeholder values, and thus officially exist as glitches. Granted, the priority should be on glitch Pokémon which can be obtained by exploiting gameplay glitches, but when the database is in such a state that all known glitch Pokémon of that nature have more than stubs dedicated to them, there's no harm in making some headway on the thousands of placeholder-entry glitch Pokémon. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 00:55, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
== A wild Egg appeared [uhhh] ==
Ummm...so...I was messing around and all with my emulator (using cheats...) and encountered "Egg" It looks umm...messed up...Egg[http://youtu.be/F2W08cp6-pE]...
well, i guess its important to know what i did...
I used an action replay with the following cheats:
-Wild Pokemon Modifier
-[UK]900x Item Slot 1 (items bag part)
Then:
1. I activated the Pokemon modifier cheat (slot 1: 649 Masterballs (pokemon); slot 2: 100 Ultra Balls (Level))
2. Activated the 900x Item Slot 1 Cheat (slot 1: 900 Masterballs)
3. Tossed Masterballs to leave it equal to "650"
4. Activated the encounter part of the wild pokemon modifier cheat
5. "A wild Egg appeared"
It sorta looks like a giant floating Silcoon/Cascoon with who knows what by it...
It has the cry of the pokemon Jynx
And also it seems to die instantly once you attack it
[Is this enough information?]
My expression: "What the..."
[[User:Brandoniskewl|Brandoniskewl]] ([[User talk:Brandoniskewl|talk]]) 01:34, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
:It's a beta version of the Pokéstar Studios opponent {{DL|Pokéstar Studios opponents|UFO}}. We know about it, but we don't have much besides that. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 05:13, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
::And since you had the shiny cheat on, you can't see its true colors as its shiny form has no defined pallette. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 05:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
== Mythbustin' is done! ==
Guys,after extensive research i figured some things:-
* Missingno could be a baby kanghaskan.I mean, it evolves into kanghaskan and could evolve into cubone with a kanghaskan skull or something.if u can cheat to get it and try to evolve it ythat would really help.
*its name could stand for 'missing number' so it could lack some code.that explains it coming.it wasn't fully removed.
*I have a firered game that is totally bad.When naming yourself or a pokemon u cant see the letters.only see the houses in a city and the people and pokemon look like missingno. routes are empty and grass is only seen when walking over it.did it get hacked or something.it was  like this from the start.
*2 words-Buried alive {{unsigned|Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)}}
:Missingno. could not possibly be baby Kangaskhan. I know this is a popular rumor, but it is absolute garbage. The first problem here is that '''Missingno. does not evolve into Kangaskhan'''; that is [['M (00)]], another glitch Pokémon that has the same sprite as Missingno. In regards to 'M (00) being baby Kangaskhan, that is untrue as well: 'M (00) evolves into Clefairy as well, so that is just as significant as evolving into Kangaskhan, and the only property it has the even resembles a baby Kangaskhan is that it evolves into Kangaskhan (which I just pointed out proves nothing).
:The string "MISSINGNO." is an error handler. Missingno. is 39 different Pokémon slots that have been wiped, so when called they use the error handler name. Missingno. does come from "Missing Number"—everyone knows that and it is on [[Missingno.|the article]].
:You've probably got a modded game.
:Buried alive is a pointless creepypasta with nothing to do with Project GlitchDex. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
So i busted myths already busted!Darn!Can i do something for here.PLs contact me if im needed--[[User:Littleroot  leader shravan(ability leader)|Shravs]] [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(Nuvema Gym)]] 11:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
== What should be done with glitch Pokémon who have varying sprites? ==
[[♀ .]]'s sprite varies.  How should the template be used? <br>
Additionally, since ♀ . has a [[glitch screen]] around it, and that can be removed by showing the sprite in [[Super Game Boy]] mode, should additional versions be provided?  (The back sprite is basically all black unless viewed that way.)  --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 18:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
== What About Glitch Items? ==
There are a multitude of glitch items, especially in Generation I. I think they deserve a page titled "List of Glitch Items." Of course, each item wouldn't get its own page; they're just items.
[[User:BballLuke13|BballLuke13]] ([[User talk:BballLuke13|talk]]) 19:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
:Agreed. Just for reference, I'm going to note that some glitch items don't have consistent effects if they execute code from the memory instead of the ROM, such as 8F in {{2v2|Red|Blue}}. Also, the names of some glitch items differ between versions. [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 13:39, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
::Indeed. I won't make the page myself, as I'm not exactly a pro at editing/making wiki pages (in fact, I'm not even sure I'm supposed to create a page), but if somebody else does, I'll do what I can to contribute. [[User:BballLuke13|BballLuke13]] ([[User talk:BballLuke13|talk]]) 17:55, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
== Multiple sprites ==
What do we want to do if a Glitch Pokémon has more than one back sprite? I have been gathering information for several Glitch Pokémon and [[ゥ$'M]] has three back sprites. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 01:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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