User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3: Difference between revisions

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:::::I can't say I have a clear preference of what it should be ideally, that's why I was asking whether you have one. Right now, I would probably just delete that "''Does not affect...''" exception sentence entirely for simplicity, and note the exceptions on their respective pages and that's it. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:26, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
:::::I can't say I have a clear preference of what it should be ideally, that's why I was asking whether you have one. Right now, I would probably just delete that "''Does not affect...''" exception sentence entirely for simplicity, and note the exceptions on their respective pages and that's it. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:26, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
::::::Thick Fat modifies attack stats, not damage. Most of the resist Berries activate on ''supereffective'' damage, which simply cannot apply to any of the direct damage moves. For {{b|Chilan}}, however, it would be fine to note the direct damage exception. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:40, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
::::::Thick Fat modifies attack stats, not damage. Most of the resist Berries activate on ''supereffective'' damage, which simply cannot apply to any of the direct damage moves. For {{b|Chilan}}, however, it would be fine to note the direct damage exception. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:40, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
:::::::You're of course right on Thick Fat. (And I should have known!) Gems also affect power. I was a bit too fast with the list; I've slowed down to compile a new one: Chilan, Reflect/Light Screen, Friend Guard, Life Orb, Multiscale/Shadow Shield, Metronome (the item), Burn. The way we have it also Fairy Aura (e.g. Pixilated Super Fang), Electric Terrain (via Electrify), Misty Terrain (Dragon Rage), and said Fur Coat (Showdown disagrees it affects damage for all of those; it's exceptionally hard to test, but would not even require us to make an exception for direct damage).
:::::::So, does "it would be fine to note" actually mean you ''prefer'' to note direct damage exceptions there over not noting them? (I'm about to apologize to ask for your opinion...!?) If so, I could add this within the next 24 hours; it's a matter of whether we ''want'' that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:47, 15 October 2016 (UTC)